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RIP Napster, Audiogalaxy, Oink. Notice a trend? Every time they get better. This shit is not going away. |
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I can almost taste it. |
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I hear din venezuela they are going to remove a paragraph of the constitution that states the protection of intellectual property. maybe they should move servers there. |
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i heard the most beautiful women live in venezuela. lets all move there. |
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lets make of it the IDM capital of the world! .. no maybe lets not... because all the hot women will move from there. |
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all the women there are already part of the IDM 2.0 phenomenon you're a dinosaur |
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they will catch us all!!!!!! |
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oh noes! |
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haha i was on oink for all of 24 hours! what a cock tease lol@'back to the pile'...im already there |
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most of the information in that news report is wrong "members pay for subscriptions to download" "the owner received thousands in subscription fees" |
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any legal person can confirm whether people can be locked away for owning a torrent-site? i don't believe it for a sec. |
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yep, as per usual. |
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i think the main thing that they're concerned about is the whole "donation" thing. as long as he didn't make any profit from it, i'm guessing there's not much that can be done seriously.....but if they can prove he was making money from it, then that's when it becomes a bit more serious. |
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the media is awesome don't you agree? :) |
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im packing my bags and heading for mexico, whos with me??? |
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does it matter whether he made any money if people gave him money out of their free will - without anything in return? you may be right, but i find it hard to believe. i think the guy will be free in a couple of days. |
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venezuela! |
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What a laugh! The police inviting the BBC along on the action part of the shutdown. Ha ha. Talk about staging some propaganda for us... Well, anyone nervous right now? |
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i agree......the authorities would have to make some pretty tenuous links but i'm sure there's enough people who would rather make an example out of this by any means necessary |
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exactly..you kinda beat me to it this is all a show, to try and show the public "you can't get away with this anymore - this is what will happen if you try" and the fact that both the police and the media are talking horseshit is proof enough |
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what are the odds that it'll be up again in a couple of days. it was a private tracker, only allowing people with an invitation. people are allowed to exchange music in private, right? |
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spot on |
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well, the police are deliberately changing the facts to suit them, by stating that it is a subscription site and not an invitation site. the whole "invite" scheme should be working in the admin's favour, but it seems that this blatant and obvious fact is being completely disregarded by the authorities |
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back to soulseek. |
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with a bit of luck, the new oink - called moo - will be up in a matter of weeks with the modification that pre-releases of the majors aren't allowed - or pop-music in general (so the big companies can go back to sleep). |
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that would be awesome |
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it's very crap bbc let themselves be used for propaganda. i don't think the police has any proof the guy made alot of money of the site |
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It will be back up and running again as soon as someone works out how to make big money from it! |
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on the other hand i had to post here at 0:24 because those oink users are so stupid: http://torrentfreak.com/oink-admin-released-from-custody-07 1023/ |
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who wants to be in my cell block? |
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"criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's users" you are all going to jail |
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All 180,000. That'll teach us. |
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The text on the side of the “police car” says “Caught on camera” :D indeed: |
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Wow, this sucks. =| Well, let's hope they don't get my friend, he had 210gb up/down, lol. |
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Does anyone think that the pigs have infiltrated forums like xltronic in the investigation? OMG, Sgt. Policeman!!! lol. |
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it won't be back up. this isn't the pirate bay, this isn't Sweden, This Is England. All that actions like these do is force the scene further underground. They'll never kill it, no matter how much they delude themselves that they can. |
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there goes my 7.6 ratio. |
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wow, i havent had my computer all day, saw oink was down and have been itching to discuss this. im seriously appalled at this. grant, im not that surprised it happened, but INTERPOL?? thats some pretty serious shit. im almost a bit scared actually, because they at this point know only a widespread attack on users will intimidate us. that granted, i did indeed have the epiphany of "oh yeah, i felt the same way about napster." but beyond that, i really think that music (and other media) sharing is a very important thing to move forward as a society. imo, you should not be able to make a living off of selling music. yeah, you should be able to make a few bucks selling physical copies, and obviously live shows warrant payment, but pre-recorded music? art should be a hobby - it's not progressive to a society for people to be paid to self-indulge as music lends itself. work should be productive, art should be a passion. of course, there's also the argument that all work is some sort of art, we'll see what this brings up. |
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most of the great art work through history has been commissioned by wealthy investors. |
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dont forget that many great works of art have come out of poverty too.. |
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... thats some pretty serious shit. im almost a bit scared actually, because they at this point know only a widespread attack on users will intimidate us. All that actions like these do is force the scene further underground. They'll never kill it, no matter how much they delude themselves that they can. Are we talking about some deluded geeks that think they have a right to steal and disseminate property that belongs to large multinationals, or the synopsis for the forthcoming Terminator IV movie? |
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i must admit i was very suprised by oinks shut down. especially as slsk is still going. surely slsk can't go on much longer, or maybe the yank police are too busy eating donuts. |
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So this was this whole Oink thing for... |
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I agree with you somewhat on filesharing, and would even go as far as to say most pop-stars are grossly over-payed, but I'm not sure about the idea that music/art should necessarily be a hobby, and therefore separate from work. I feel that it's possible that some artists spend their entire day working on art, which might cause working a separate job to be difficult. In these cases, art must also pay the bills. Is it fair to deny great art to force a person to work a "day job"? My stance on P2P filesharing is that it should only be used as a medium of demonstrating music or software. Of the torrents I've downloaded in the last +/- 12months, I've purchased every game or cd that I actually enjoyed. The rest, I delete from my harddrive to save space/not steal. It's obviously more expensive than just downloading everything for free, but it's cheaper than buying music without having heard it first. I submit that buying/supporting music is its own reward, though you must try to purchase directly from the artist as often as possible. I've forgotten why I thought Napster, gnutella, morpheus were so great back in the day. I'd much rather physically own cds and then rip my own mp3s afterwards. Maybe it's just me. |
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the moral discussion is useless, unless you like philosophy or your own psychology people will just downoad because it's easy. oink made it too easy (at least to 5 gig. which are more albums then most people would buy in their life) |
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intellectual property is such a ridicuouls concept anyway. |
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