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programming audio stuff in C++ or something other kind of programs.
 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:06 [#02090553]
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also have to tilt my mouse 90 degrees.. I fixed it though.
I'd like to turn that stupid feature off.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-04 18:06 [#02090554]
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I'd like to turn you on


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:11 [#02090557]
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If you have any extremely gory pictures involving breakfast
cereal mascots, that should do the trick.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-06-04 18:18 [#02090559]
Points: 4442 Status: Regular



In my spare time (when I`m not tracking myspacecore schlock
music in dos) I really enjoy to use PHP and MYSQL. I`m
learning how to parse xml now and some other fun web stuff
(perl,runy,ajax,java script).

My trade is data analysis , I do a lot of data flow stuff
and database architecture things ... it`s like making music
:D

What I would recommend for you to do is, spend a few months
using VISUAL BASIC.

It will teach you the logistics of programming. What a
variable is, why you want to use them, what is a function
why use a string instead of an integer etc etc .

Once you get the understanding part down, switching over to
other languages is a walk in the park.

And also, once you understand more about programming, you
understand how things work in the real programming world.
The most common thing for beginners is to think there is
some "RPG maker" like programming languages, where you drag
and drop graphics and import mp3`s to accompany your
creations.

There are... but they wont get you very far.

THE BEST WEBSITE FOR ENTERING THE WORLD OF PROGRAMMING

Some advice first though.

Try using visual basic for a bit. While doing that try
learning some html , make as many websites you can with as
many crappy features as you can to get an understanding of
how PROGRAMMING WORKS.

Once you feel like you know your stuff, start using PHP. It
is a programming languages for websites, but works similar
to the programming languages you want to learn (like c++ ect
ect).

It is almost like HTML but it can hold variables and do
tasks like "IF xltronic = website THEN post condescending
sarcasm and do a little dance END INSTRUCTION".

PHP is very similar to C/C++ in some of the way you print
your instructions.

Once you understand all that, and realize you arn`t going
anywhere making console command line "What is your name? Oh
hello $USERNAME !!! It is $TIME o`clock!" programs, then I
agree 100% start using python so you get the hang of all t


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:20 [#02090560]
Points: 21452 Status: Lurker



ha ha, there are 'hotkeys' to rotate the screen (ctrl, alt,
direction) and you can turn them off. So you could go into a
place with public computers, rotate all the screens then
turn off all the hotkeys, not that they'd know what to press
anyway. They'd never figure it out.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-06-04 18:21 [#02090562]
Points: 4442 Status: Regular



Object oriented stuff. Which is basically like Final Fantasy
Characters for the thing you are making.

Mage.Items.Count = 0 if PWNed by Boss.last.gigadeth

If you need any help what so ever feel free to contact me,
but there are some really go programmers on this board as
well, Phobs being one of them :D


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:35 [#02090568]
Points: 6555 Status: Regular



"Python seems to be exactly the same as c++ except it
makes it easier on you by not having you deal with low level

BS"

if by low level bullshit u mean:
having to compile programs [w. python u get a realtime
interpreter],
manage memory yourself,

how is python like c++??


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:38 [#02090570]
Points: 6555 Status: Regular



ok its OO giv u that


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:39 [#02090571]
Points: 6555 Status: Regular



Oxygen wtf is that , Copy + Paste ur CV>?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 19:05 [#02090577]
Points: 21452 Status: Lurker | Followup to steve mcqueen: #02090568



For someone who is new to programming in general they might
not know how very similar the languages are; if you learn
how to get around in one you can probably get around in the
other very soon. I'm just saying you basically use while's
and if's and variables in either in basically the same way
and write the structured code in basically the same way with
only a few syntax differences. I don't really see that big
of a difference; neither is like a seperate paradigm or
anything. I'm too much of a novice to make much of a claim
of anything.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-05 00:20 [#02090650]
Points: 6427 Status: Lurker



Make your own VSTs with SynthEdit

You can code your own modules if you get the SDK developer
on that page too.


 

offline jacderida from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-05 07:52 [#02090692]
Points: 9 Status: Lurker



wav3it, have you programmed in any language at all? if not
as other folk have said you'll have to familiarise yourself
with all the basic concepts before you can jump straight in
and start writing programs that are doing anything audio
related (or anything meaningful at all really).

if I was you I wouldn't go anywhere near visual basic,
although if you are going to, at least make sure it's VB
.NET and not the holocaust of a language that is VB6 :).
however that's just because I've been programming in C
syntax based languages for the past 4 or 5 years so I can
just never get used to the VB syntax. C based languages are
so much more concise in terms of syntax imo.

if C or C++ is something you think you might find too hard,
I'd give C# (pronounced "See-Sharp") a go. C# is a part of
the .NET family, and to sum it up in a nutshell, it offers
the power of a lot of the 'lower level' features of C/C++
but without the other tedious elements such as manual memory
management (like Java, .NET languages are garbage collected
so the programmer doesn't have to worry about allocating and
freeing memory, which is a huge source of bugs).

the other great thing about it is that Microsoft make all
the development environment tools available for free, and
vstudio really is a world class dev environment imo. You can
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualcsharp/defa
download the Visual C# Express Edition here - ult.aspx

(note that a 'dev environment' is just an application that
allows you to edit, compile and manage your programs). After
you have the express edition installed you can supplement
this by finding a site that will teach you the basics of C#
(you should be able to google and find many sites), and you
can then start writing programs :).

Note also that MS offer an express edition for developing C
and C++ programs too, if you decide to go down that route.



 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-06-05 15:09 [#02090842]
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Because C++ is so easy to learn in such a short amount of
time...

Even c# is pretty hard to grasp if you don`t know anything
about programming,


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-05 15:18 [#02090844]
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Without knowing much more than basic php myself, I'd say
listen to sneakattack.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-05 15:19 [#02090848]
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I can't make the hotkeys work, Mr. Noll! Tell me how!!! Does
it work in windows xp, or do you have crazy Ian Noll OS?


 

offline jacderida from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-05 16:41 [#02090900]
Points: 9 Status: Lurker



in such a short amount of time? he never mentioned being
time constrained.

C based languages aren't *that* hard to pick up. at pretty
much every comp science course you would go to you'd be
introduced to basic programming via a C based language.

i would encourage learning them over VB from the outset
basically because it's a much more useful skillset to
acquire. after you've learned C# or Java it'll be a much
easier transition to something like C or C++ if you moved on
to that after getting a little bit more confident.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-05 17:10 [#02090915]
Points: 21452 Status: Lurker | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #02090848



Maybe it's only on intel integreted chips or laptops or
something. It's freakin hidden in a maze of menus just like
every other conceivable thing.

windows xp:
start, control panel, display (this is retardedly in a
different category called 'or pick a control panel icon',
settings, advanced, intel extreme graphics 2, graphics
properties, hot keys.

Flash makes me navigate a maze of folders to find their
stupid tutorial shit too:
c:, program files, macromedia, flash 8, samples and
tutorials, tutorial assets, cafe townsend, completed files,
flash, flash fma finished
That's 9 freakin layers.


 


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