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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:06 [#02090553]
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also have to tilt my mouse 90 degrees.. I fixed it though. I'd like to turn that stupid feature off.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-04 18:06 [#02090554]
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I'd like to turn you on
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:11 [#02090557]
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If you have any extremely gory pictures involving breakfast cereal mascots, that should do the trick.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-06-04 18:18 [#02090559]
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In my spare time (when I`m not tracking myspacecore schlock music in dos) I really enjoy to use PHP and MYSQL. I`m learning how to parse xml now and some other fun web stuff (perl,runy,ajax,java script).
My trade is data analysis , I do a lot of data flow stuff and database architecture things ... it`s like making music :D
What I would recommend for you to do is, spend a few months using VISUAL BASIC.
It will teach you the logistics of programming. What a variable is, why you want to use them, what is a function why use a string instead of an integer etc etc .
Once you get the understanding part down, switching over to other languages is a walk in the park.
And also, once you understand more about programming, you understand how things work in the real programming world. The most common thing for beginners is to think there is some "RPG maker" like programming languages, where you drag and drop graphics and import mp3`s to accompany your creations.
There are... but they wont get you very far.
THE BEST WEBSITE FOR ENTERING THE WORLD OF PROGRAMMING
Some advice first though.
Try using visual basic for a bit. While doing that try learning some html , make as many websites you can with as many crappy features as you can to get an understanding of how PROGRAMMING WORKS.
Once you feel like you know your stuff, start using PHP. It is a programming languages for websites, but works similar to the programming languages you want to learn (like c++ ect ect).
It is almost like HTML but it can hold variables and do tasks like "IF xltronic = website THEN post condescending sarcasm and do a little dance END INSTRUCTION".
PHP is very similar to C/C++ in some of the way you print your instructions.
Once you understand all that, and realize you arn`t going anywhere making console command line "What is your name? Oh hello $USERNAME !!! It is $TIME o`clock!" programs, then I agree 100% start using python so you get the hang of all t
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:20 [#02090560]
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ha ha, there are 'hotkeys' to rotate the screen (ctrl, alt, direction) and you can turn them off. So you could go into a place with public computers, rotate all the screens then turn off all the hotkeys, not that they'd know what to press anyway. They'd never figure it out.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-06-04 18:21 [#02090562]
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Object oriented stuff. Which is basically like Final Fantasy Characters for the thing you are making.
Mage.Items.Count = 0 if PWNed by Boss.last.gigadeth
If you need any help what so ever feel free to contact me, but there are some really go programmers on this board as well, Phobs being one of them :D
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:35 [#02090568]
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"Python seems to be exactly the same as c++ except it makes it easier on you by not having you deal with low level
BS"
if by low level bullshit u mean: having to compile programs [w. python u get a realtime interpreter],
manage memory yourself,
how is python like c++??
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:38 [#02090570]
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ok its OO giv u that
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:39 [#02090571]
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Oxygen wtf is that , Copy + Paste ur CV>?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 19:05 [#02090577]
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For someone who is new to programming in general they might not know how very similar the languages are; if you learn how to get around in one you can probably get around in the other very soon. I'm just saying you basically use while's and if's and variables in either in basically the same way and write the structured code in basically the same way with only a few syntax differences. I don't really see that big of a difference; neither is like a seperate paradigm or anything. I'm too much of a novice to make much of a claim of anything.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-05 00:20 [#02090650]
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Make your own VSTs with SynthEdit
You can code your own modules if you get the SDK developer on that page too.
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jacderida
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-05 07:52 [#02090692]
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wav3it, have you programmed in any language at all? if not as other folk have said you'll have to familiarise yourself with all the basic concepts before you can jump straight in and start writing programs that are doing anything audio related (or anything meaningful at all really).
if I was you I wouldn't go anywhere near visual basic, although if you are going to, at least make sure it's VB .NET and not the holocaust of a language that is VB6 :). however that's just because I've been programming in C syntax based languages for the past 4 or 5 years so I can just never get used to the VB syntax. C based languages are so much more concise in terms of syntax imo.
if C or C++ is something you think you might find too hard, I'd give C# (pronounced "See-Sharp") a go. C# is a part of the .NET family, and to sum it up in a nutshell, it offers the power of a lot of the 'lower level' features of C/C++ but without the other tedious elements such as manual memory management (like Java, .NET languages are garbage collected so the programmer doesn't have to worry about allocating and freeing memory, which is a huge source of bugs).
the other great thing about it is that Microsoft make all the development environment tools available for free, and vstudio really is a world class dev environment imo. You can http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualcsharp/defa download the Visual C# Express Edition here - ult.aspx
(note that a 'dev environment' is just an application that allows you to edit, compile and manage your programs). After you have the express edition installed you can supplement this by finding a site that will teach you the basics of C# (you should be able to google and find many sites), and you can then start writing programs :).
Note also that MS offer an express edition for developing C and C++ programs too, if you decide to go down that route.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-06-05 15:09 [#02090842]
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Because C++ is so easy to learn in such a short amount of time...
Even c# is pretty hard to grasp if you don`t know anything about programming,
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-05 15:18 [#02090844]
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Without knowing much more than basic php myself, I'd say listen to sneakattack.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-05 15:19 [#02090848]
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I can't make the hotkeys work, Mr. Noll! Tell me how!!! Does it work in windows xp, or do you have crazy Ian Noll OS?
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jacderida
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-05 16:41 [#02090900]
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in such a short amount of time? he never mentioned being time constrained.
C based languages aren't *that* hard to pick up. at pretty much every comp science course you would go to you'd be introduced to basic programming via a C based language.
i would encourage learning them over VB from the outset basically because it's a much more useful skillset to acquire. after you've learned C# or Java it'll be a much easier transition to something like C or C++ if you moved on to that after getting a little bit more confident.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-05 17:10 [#02090915]
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Maybe it's only on intel integreted chips or laptops or something. It's freakin hidden in a maze of menus just like every other conceivable thing.
windows xp: start, control panel, display (this is retardedly in a different category called 'or pick a control panel icon', settings, advanced, intel extreme graphics 2, graphics properties, hot keys.
Flash makes me navigate a maze of folders to find their stupid tutorial shit too:
c:, program files, macromedia, flash 8, samples and tutorials, tutorial assets, cafe townsend, completed files, flash, flash fma finished
That's 9 freakin layers.
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