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programming audio stuff in C++ or something other kind of programs.
 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:17 [#02090456]
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programming audio stuff in C++ or something other kind of
programs.


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:18 [#02090457]
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anybody program like a kind of that stuff??
smile.


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 15:18 [#02090458]
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YOU HAVE NO HEARD OF THE ENGLISHES.

yes I code such things


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:22 [#02090461]
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how you started?


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 15:26 [#02090462]
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reading documentation, thinking, experimenting.

many people swear that hacking code written by others is
best, but I think it is harmful. ie, it makes you
dependent.

also, c++ is a complete piece of shit. Do not use it
without good reason. If you want something simple to play
around with, try python.


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:28 [#02090463]
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have you mesenger? skype or something.
could you contact me? wav3.it - for skype


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:29 [#02090464]
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yeah. i want somehow start to program VST or something...


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 15:30 [#02090465]
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if you spread feces on your face and post pics, I'll
consider it.


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 15:31 [#02090466]
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well, start small, develop ideas, learn techniques,
experiment.

Coding isn't meant to be hard; it's very easy, in fact.

Coding well, like doing anything well, is challenging.


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:35 [#02090467]
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could you help me? help to turn me in the right way to do
that.
there are in the net alot information, but the beginner
could not find way there and losty way...
have you readings about C++?


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 15:40 [#02090469]
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I don't recommend c++ !

Furthermore, I have no good advice for it. I learned the
language by reading the reference cover to cover. This was
perfect for me, but that's due to my personality, and also I
already had lots of coding experience.

browse amazon for a book whose summary and reviews suit you,
and buy it. For an inexperienced coder, I think a language
BOOK is better than random online documentation. In
particular for a shit language like c++.

Python, however, since it is open source, has good online
documentation, sufficient for a beginner to learn from.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-04 15:41 [#02090471]
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sneakattack: "but look at his MIDIchlorian
level, it's way off the chart....surely you can forgive his
engrish?"


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 15:42 [#02090472]
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also how do you know w M w once coded in c++.


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2007-06-04 15:42 [#02090473]
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woah!
I just did the biggest typo ever!

Instead of xltronic.com, I managed to hit cplusplus.com. oh
wait hang on a min...
If anyone would like to contact me with info about any type
of programming language, please hook me up, fuck.it - for
skype


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 15:42 [#02090474]
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All I know is that you have not posted enough pics in the
NEW yr pics thrd


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 15:43 [#02090475]
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I believe it may be a troll, playing along for fun, for now
(bored)


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:44 [#02090477]
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so, do you programm VST or something??
and in whitch language do you do that???
i will start from Python.



 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-04 15:45 [#02090478]
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shit yo, i'd better smack some more pics up in that bitch's
snatch mofo

dynamite


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 15:45 [#02090479]
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I have never coded a VST.


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 15:46 [#02090480]
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These had better be intense! you have a reputation to
maintain!!


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:47 [#02090483]
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no. sneakattack i dont know from where start, so i am trying
to communicate with someone.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-04 15:47 [#02090484]
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hah

unfortunately i only have one other pic of myself, and
that's not going up for the fact that it's from the same
photo shoot session.

the only other pics of note i could post is my gear, but i
sense that is equally hated around here

so i'll just leave it as it is

hohum!

nice to know i have a rep on this place


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 15:48 [#02090485]
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python is a good, pleasant start.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-04 15:48 [#02090486]
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you have no chance, make your time

call off every zig

somebody set us up the bomb


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 15:48 [#02090487]
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who knows, I barely posted for some years, and think you
were away mostly at those times as well.


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:49 [#02090488]
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oscilik. i dont know you, but your language. excuse.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-04 15:49 [#02090489]
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yeah i've had downtime, but now i'm back in a sort of
fashion
i got a nifty new mobile phone, so i can get on here more
often


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:53 [#02090493]
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sneakattack so what you had programmed???
in which language???


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-04 15:53 [#02090494]
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a musical bass lline involves many complex factors, such as
different pitches and beats, and consequently it is a
difficult thing to reproduce automatically. it may vary
depending on the rhythm, chord progression, style of music
and the character of the musician. sometimes it can take the
role of a low melody, then it might outline the chords or
become a strong rhythmic influence in an ensemble


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:56 [#02090496]
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harmony.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2007-06-04 15:57 [#02090499]
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Hey guys. Try not to be dicks. He seems to be genuinely
intrested in learning how to program. Making fun of someones
English skills on an internet forum is bad form, seeing as a
good part of the people who talk here speak it as a second
language and everyone needs to start somewhere.


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:58 [#02090500]
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thanks taxidermist.


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 15:59 [#02090501]
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respect for people like that. smile to you and to
everybody.



 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-04 15:59 [#02090502]
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i'm sorry

i formally apologise

if i had some programming knowlegde i'd offer some advice,
but i don't know shit :(



 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-04 15:59 [#02090503]
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can you program audio stuff in Lisp?


 

offline wav3it on 2007-06-04 16:02 [#02090504]
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what is lisp? i create with cubase, reaktor, reason and ni
vst's... want to start learning programming.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-04 16:09 [#02090505]
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Lisp (as far as i understand it) is a python-like language,
and i think you can do some stuff with audio


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 16:09 [#02090506]
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lisp is another language. Basically every language has ways
to control audio. If you want to learn general purpose
programming, and want an easy start, go with python.

there are languages specially suited to making sound. Not
just max/msp and PD, something called 'processing'.. I come
across new 'multimedia' languages all the time.

you haven't been very clear as to what kind of programming
you want to do. what I listed in the second paragraph are
much more 'high level' than regular, 'down and dirty'
languages.


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 16:10 [#02090507]
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it's not python like, the end.


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-06-04 16:11 [#02090508]
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lisp is an old, dynamically typed, dynamically scoped
functional language. There have been lots of revisions. it
is still occasionally used for AI, since it can tweak
itself.

it was created by John McCarthy, a great (and OLD) AI
researcher.

it stands for 'list processing', because everything in it is
a list. even the expressions.

it uses prefix notation.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-06-04 16:50 [#02090520]
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well there ya go - i know shit aboutn programming


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 16:59 [#02090524]
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no lisp is not like python at all
it can be used to control audio making things which have all
been written as C AFAIK .. if u want fast running DSP stuff,
write it in C ( not C++, not necessary until u put it in
your host ? ), im sure someone will chime in saying
assembler for something is faster but yea, dont fancy that
myself.

i reckon if u havent done no prograaming before, learn
something like Reaktor, CSound, Max/MSP/PD/Jmax,
SuperCollider 1st,


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 17:04 [#02090526]
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u can add ChucK to that list, definitely a few others, dont
know how well they are supported


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2007-06-04 17:28 [#02090532]
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Actually, for making vst plugins, starting in something like
synthedit or synthmaker (where you can do code) might be a
good place to start. Also playing with useless scripts in
visual basic is a good place to get yourself acquainted.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 17:32 [#02090535]
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From pics I've seen of max msp, dog belch, it's so high
level that you just visually drag stuff around as far as I
know. Python seems to be exactly the same as c++ except it
makes it easier on you by not having you deal with low level
BS, taking away annoying brackets, and changing some
commands like 'print' instead of cout (which is less
cryptic). Also you can see what you made instantly in the
shell or whatever its called. This thing seems to have a
hard time working with firewalls. But it's basically the
same stuff doing loops such and such times if such and such
conditions are met. I never used the sound functions. It is
really fun once you get inside of all the cryptic bullshit
and actually get stuff working and feels like a miracle when
you finally do. But just knowing you'll run into some
complete brick wall of a retarded problem half the times you
try something, for new people, makes it hard to have a pick
up and play feel.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-04 17:34 [#02090536]
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mp3 fiile ausdioqualities


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 17:56 [#02090546]
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Ha ha, I was just playing zdoom and somehow the entire
screen went black except for some blue weird blocks. I
managed to quit back to windows only since I memorized the
menu and was navigating it in the dark and now windows is
all flipped 90 degrees counter clockwise... even moving the
mouse down makes the curser go right on the screen. And I
restarded the computer and it's still like that.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:04 [#02090549]
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Oh, cool, if you press control + alt + up/down/left or right
the entire screen rotates...
wait, that's not cool- it's fucking annoying since this damn
keyboard makes doing that accidently easy especially when
playing doom.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-06-04 18:04 [#02090550]
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tilt monitor 90 degrees, problem solved


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-06-04 18:05 [#02090551]
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But I really want to walk into a public library or some
place with lots of public computers and fuck up all their
screens now...


 


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