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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 14:54 [#02072619]
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Yes, I see what you're saying, it's in a state of (civil) war. This sort of stuff isn't expected in a University.
I didn't really blame "America as a country", I blamed 3 definite things, some of which are particular about American culture.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 14:55 [#02072620]
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Yes, and why they even let classes go ahead after the first shooting.
There's going to be hell to pay for that.
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big
from lsg on 2007-04-16 14:56 [#02072621]
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the sites are far apart: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6560685.stm
but, yea
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-16 14:56 [#02072622]
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Thanks. It didn't capture all of my thoughts on it, and may seem a bit incoherent, but I'm preparing for a ~20 page paper on it (which will make more sense), so I've been thinking about it for quite a bit (since last semester), which is also probably why I can't express it in as few words as one of these boxes allow.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 14:57 [#02072623]
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I think you did, and did remarkably well.
I'd like to read that paper when you've written it. Keep me in mind.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-04-16 14:57 [#02072624]
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fuck
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big
from lsg on 2007-04-16 15:01 [#02072625]
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i just felt sorry for america, blaming the country like you did just after the tragedy, you could say
i was not making a smart comparison, just saying bagdad is worse. but it's the particular pain of a civil war i guess you could say, when the evil comes from your near ones
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-16 15:01 [#02072626]
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Heh, it'll be in Norwegian, but if you can learn that by June, you're on!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-16 15:01 [#02072627]
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The future is going to be such a terrible place.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 15:04 [#02072628]
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bugger
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:05 [#02072629]
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It's not a question of having a "nothing we can do about it" attitude, but it's not up to me or you to intervene and invade America because their country is falling apart around them and they have a gimpanzee as their token leader. I think we should win their hearts and minds first (just like John Lennon did in the 70s!), and let them topple their own evils.
I'm too concerned with the shitty iCulture I seem to have become enshrouded by here in the United Kingdom of Chav.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-16 15:09 [#02072630]
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God damned, people are all over this.. there's already a cell-phone video, death toll ranging from 20 to 33, pictures of it all over the newspaper webpages here...
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-04-16 15:11 [#02072631]
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Its crazy, I am off of work early and here at home....Its all over the NET and local news channels here....
SO SAD
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:12 [#02072632]
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I'm watching it on BBC News24 now. A reporter was asked "Do you think this will force a change in the gun laws?" "No," he replied, "I don't think it will."
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-04-16 15:13 [#02072633]
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the gunshots on the cellphone VID is a creepy watch
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 15:14 [#02072634]
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fricken fricken fricken
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big
from lsg on 2007-04-16 15:14 [#02072635]
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the anti assault rifle law passed under clinton in 1994 only ran for ten years.. maybe that will come back (though they just found 9mms for the moment)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-16 15:15 [#02072636]
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"It's our god damned (and god-given) right to carry guns at all times, and if I don't have one on me I should be able to get one within half-an-hour, AT LEAST!!!!!"
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-04-16 15:16 [#02072637]
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who made that statement?...just curious because its retarded
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:17 [#02072638]
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That's been flagged - it's not explicit is it? The only explicit thing I like to watch is porn.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-16 15:18 [#02072639]
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It's a concoction of televised (but still real) Americans.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-16 15:19 [#02072640]
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The system should maybe be designed to give all power to individuals with A) greatest intelligence B) greatest altruism
If people like Jimmy Wales, Steve Wozniak and Bill Joy ran shit, everything would be healed in a week. Or just give all the power to slashdot or something. That's a 'new world order' I'd support.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:20 [#02072641]
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America should be run by Atticus Finch.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-04-16 15:21 [#02072642]
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(but still real AND IGNORANT) Americans....
Yeah I know we have TOO MANY OF EM
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 15:22 [#02072643]
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it's not, no. it's eric harris and dylan klebold in a video they made .. saying "fricken" an awful lot.
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big
from lsg on 2007-04-16 15:24 [#02072644]
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i saw on tv the trenchcoat mob disliked dumb people tho
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-16 15:25 [#02072645]
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the videos just a bit sad
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-04-16 15:26 [#02072647]
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self hate is lame
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:27 [#02072649]
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I can't believe that before the second spate of murder, students were expecting classes to resume, and were preparing to go about their business. Crazy.
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Valor
on 2007-04-16 15:27 [#02072650]
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how weird is that... redrum has the most replies in this topic but yet the most irrelevant of them all.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 15:30 [#02072651]
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"but yet the most irrelevent of them all"
stunning
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-16 15:30 [#02072652]
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i agree, especially if the shooter hadnt been apprehended. it seems completely irrational to me.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:31 [#02072653]
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how weird is that... expressing an opinion as a fact.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-16 15:31 [#02072654]
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Yeah.. they're coming here too.. the liberalist-populist parties are gaining voters... People misunderstand what liberty is, how one achieves it. You don't just remove all restraints to the already (as self-perceived) boundless individuals and let them roam free. That's the same as imposing boundaries on those who are born least fortunate: even the smallest head-start is enough to get ahead of other people because it enables you to kick them in the face.. if they're going to make it, they'll have to be really fast runners so that they can catch up to you and kick you in the face.. or something like that.
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mimi
on 2007-04-16 15:34 [#02072656]
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why was the reporter being interviewed?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:35 [#02072657]
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Well, the studio-based newsman speaks to the field reporter. I'm sure you have that where you come from!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:40 [#02072658]
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I have a theory that the first two victims (a male and a female) were personal killings and, seeing as he had time on his hands, he walked the quarter mile to the other building (obviously using the power of invisibility), and, knowing he was going to die, decided to rampage a little more before turning the gun on himself.
Maybe his last words were "You can take my gun from cold, dead hands."
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mimi
on 2007-04-16 15:42 [#02072659]
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I just imagined two talking heads going off about it, i didn't realize one of them was On Location
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:47 [#02072662]
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Ah, I see, maybe I should have clarified.
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Valor
on 2007-04-16 15:48 [#02072663]
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i'm versatile that way.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-16 15:53 [#02072665]
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that's why I included B) altruism
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-04-16 15:56 [#02072666]
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this isn't a tragedy though. us governament works hard for these things to happen, therefore you could hardly tag it 'tragedy'.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:56 [#02072667]
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Wow, apparently 30,000 people a year in America die in gun-related incidents. And the NRA are worried that tighter gun laws would means guns would fall into the hands of... criminals!
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big
from lsg on 2007-04-16 16:07 [#02072671]
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i should have read the implicit 'and' instead of assuming a multiple choice
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-16 17:10 [#02072690]
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you guys love this shit. When you found out today your mind said "Yes!"
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HmND
from your mom (Israel) on 2007-04-16 17:11 [#02072691]
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Woah, a rate of 32/1. This guy got some mad skillz.
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rad smiles
on 2007-04-16 17:15 [#02072693]
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most of you are fucking evil.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 17:23 [#02072695]
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for god's sake
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QRDL
from Poland on 2007-04-16 17:28 [#02072696]
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I fully admit that my first reaction to the news proves that I am somewhat evil.
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HmND
from your mom (Israel) on 2007-04-16 17:32 [#02072697]
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People die every day, big fucking deal. When suicide alone is so taboo'd by society, it's almost more beneficial to kill others before doing that to yourself in order to preserve your name in history.
Who would know about this guy if he just shot himself alone in his room? No one. Now he's going to be fucking famous. Good job to him I guess, not many people get so famous for their entire life, helping hundreds of others, and he did it in a couple of hours by KILLING 32.
Gotta love society.
/2:30 AM rant. Don't take me seriously.
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