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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-13 10:41 [#00123961]
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I hate modern buildings. They should all be destroyed. My city is undergoing a mass building frenzy. Characterless, sterile, Barratt-home style office blocks are popping up everywhere.
Ceri & Jedi Chris should back me on this one.
Fuck the Millenium (Stadium)
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nacmat
on 2002-03-13 10:43 [#00123964]
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I would love to have the oportunity of changing your mind by having a nice talk with you...but as that is impossible... I will tell you that every style has good and bad things...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-13 10:45 [#00123967]
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Nacmat, I'm not saying ALL, just most. I don't know what its like in Espana but here its getting really ugly.
When I went to Spain there were loads of beautiful buildings. I went to a medeival town called Gerona which was soooo beautiful
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nacmat
on 2002-03-13 10:47 [#00123971]
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I am glad you liked it here in spain... most of architecture is always crap... now and then...its only that now we only see the good buildings from the past that survived through the years... but there was lots of crap then too.
in 500 years they will only see the great buildings of this century...that as always have happened they are a minority
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-13 11:00 [#00123981]
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Yeah I see your point. I just wish more of the beautiful buildings survived and took up more of our space.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-03-13 11:01 [#00123984]
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1.1 bach/chopin 1.2 richard d james/booth+brown 2.1 - 2.2 escher/dali 3.1 egyptian - giza pyramids ?~! 3.2 ? 4.1 greek - ? ! - dunno really 4.2 giagometti [sp] !!!
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-03-13 11:04 [#00123989]
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bit ignorant about the whole historical aspect of the visual arts .. and architechture.. despite the fact that i almost did it at uni ! loved it at school .. oh well
"ignorance is bliss" they say - hehe
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nacmat
on 2002-03-13 11:07 [#00123991]
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giacometti (spell?) is a great choice...
I am so thin I look like a giacometti´s sculpture
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-03-13 11:09 [#00123997]
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yeah .. i fucking love giacometti .. !! .. his paintings aint too bad either :)
the greek and egyptian thing was a bit of a cop out tho ..
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nacmat
on 2002-03-13 11:15 [#00124005]
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pyramids are such a mistery and they are so perfect...so tense... dont know how to describe them in english...they look like they can stay there till the end of time
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-03-13 11:19 [#00124009]
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actually - i'll take the pyramid thing back .. because i actually quite like the idea of those granite shafts with such wicked craftsman ship .. and all the "debatable" astrological significance behind it all .. a la Graham hancock
the greek stuff tho - i don't know .. i guess i could always say a sculpture of dionysus or so for kicks. ?? what was the one where he was born out of his mothers? leg ! .. i'll put that down.
re architechture i love it - but haven't a clue re: the people behind the building so to speak
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nacmat
on 2002-03-13 18:35 [#00124708]
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have any of you ever gone to the opera? have you ever listened to a Wagner opera such as Tanhausser??
try its a great experience
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-13 18:40 [#00124716]
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I have been to the Opera to see de fladermous*. I enjoyed it but not as much as I do dance, I like Contempory dance. Check out DV8's short film Strange Fish it is increadable. The Bench scene is out of this world.
*poor spelling sorry
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-13 18:56 [#00124738]
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Flea, I noticed you like Rodin too. Have you seen his house in Paris? If not and you're ever in France it's well worth the trip. I love his sculpture it has far more "soul" and warmth than the roman sculptures. The ones of lovers done out of one piece of rock are brilliant.
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nacmat
on 2002-03-13 18:58 [#00124741]
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romans didnt do but copy from the greek sculpture. IMO
rodin is great
chillida? oteiza?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-13 19:01 [#00124744]
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I have to side with Jonesy here Nac, the architecture of new out of town shopping centres (Jedi Chris esp. culverhouse cross) is dreadful.
New architecture isn't so bad if it's done with a decent budget but so many are just awful breeze block monstrocities.
I've only been to Menorca in Spain, but I liked the old fashioned architecture of the police station in Cuitadella.
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nacmat
on 2002-03-13 19:02 [#00124745]
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you think NY is not beautiful?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-13 19:04 [#00124747]
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The problem isn't in the archetecture it is the lack of crafts men/women that are being trained.
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nacmat
on 2002-03-13 19:11 [#00124757]
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I dont understand what you mean...craft?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-13 19:37 [#00124784]
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Crafts people trditionally are carpenters, masons ect. Disiplins that are seen as not useful in todays society with mass production and mecanised manufacturing.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-13 20:09 [#00124808]
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Nac: I've never been to NY, but my friend (the one starting architecture) said it had some good buildings. As I said, some modern stuff with a lot of budget is good (NY & London), but most "cheap" buildings look shoddy.
010101: I definately think that they should bring back craft apprenticeships rather than these monkey degrees that universities do nowadays.
Jonesy: Forgive me... I helped design part of the millenium stadium - but it wasn't used as they were already way over budget. The bastards. I'm mates with the people who made the roof mechanism though (it broke down recently ha ha).
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-13 20:22 [#00124827]
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Very few things that are cheaply constructed look good.
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nazipokemon
from nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-13 20:43 [#00124848]
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neil buchanan andy peters phillip schofield noel edmonds mr motivator lorraine kelly kym marsh jamie oliver
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-13 20:44 [#00124854]
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You forgot Richard and Judy
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-13 21:30 [#00124953]
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2 of my mates wrote to neil buchanan and got a signed photo!
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nazipokemon
from nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-13 21:33 [#00124960]
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does nacmats picture annoy anyone else?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-13 21:35 [#00124966]
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Why does it annoy you?
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-03-13 22:22 [#00125070]
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your name annoys me:(
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-13 22:30 [#00125077]
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At least he HAS a pic. And he doesn't whine about silly things like that. Just kidding.
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nacmat
on 2002-03-14 01:22 [#00125243]
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I am sorry that my picture annoys you, cos you are gonna see it sooooo many times...
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-03-14 02:19 [#00125314]
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i like your pic nacmat .. its funny
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-03-14 09:47 [#00125606]
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Dood.....ok.....one Macintosh is one of my fav's. my final project for organic architecture was to make a chair, i was influenced greatly by mackintosh's chairs. it was so fun to build, and i sold it to for $300 bucks...ehhehe
ok.....second.....i have been to Rodin's house, his work is amazing when compared to anyone else....but i forgot one of the most amazing sculpters.....Michangelo.....do'H....i mean i have about 100 pic's of the David statue....some LIFE size.....ahahah.
also NYC has some amazing buildings....old and new. the guggenheim by FLwright is something to see.....i was blown away by it!! and well all the skyscrapers....the crystler building is my personal fav =)
ahhhh i can go on for days about architecture and art.......ahhhhh
i need to sleep now and dream about it =)
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nacmat
on 2002-03-15 12:00 [#00127034]
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my favourite painters: in no order
miguel angel velazquez goya picasso miro gris warhol rubens vangogh rembrandt tiziano caravaggio el greco klee klimt mondrian kandinsky tolouse lautrex (dont know how to spell it) leonardo da vinci antonio lopez dali (hehehe lecoeur would kill me if not)
. . . . .
I must be forgetting about a hundred of them anyway
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nacmat
on 2002-03-20 13:57 [#00132442]
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what about Manuel de Falla does anybody know this spanish 19th century composer?
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-06-02 21:15 [#00246817]
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My favs are:
1.1 Bach 1.2 Aphex twin 2.1 Gustav Klimt 2.2 Marlene Dumas 3.1 Viktor Horta 3.2 Frank Gehry 4.1 Rodin 4.2 Rebecca Horn
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nacmat
on 2002-06-02 23:08 [#00247000]
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I love victor horta (his architecture of course)
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corn_mouth
from santiago (Chile) on 2002-06-02 23:23 [#00247038]
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1-music: ..........1.1 Bach ..........1.2 Aphex Twin 2-painture: ..........2.1 Piet Mondrian ..........2.2 Jackson Pollock/J.M. Basquiat 3-architecture: ..........3.1 F. LL. Wright/M. Van Der Rohe ..........3.2 Rem Kolhaas/B. Van Berkel 4-sculpture: ..........4.1 Michel Angelo ..........4.2 Sol LeWitt
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nacmat
on 2002-06-03 00:39 [#00247192]
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good choice my friend arquitecto
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nacmat
on 2002-06-03 02:07 [#00247265]
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1-music: ..........1.1 classical ..........1.2 modern 2-painture: ..........2.1 classical ..........2.2 modern 3-architecture: ..........3.1 classical ..........3.2 modern 4-sculpture: ..........4.1 classical ..........4.2 modern
for me:
1.1 mozart 1.2 autechre 2.1 velazquez 2.2 vangogh 3.1 Palladio 3.2 Le corbusier 4.1 Praxiteles 4.2 oteiza
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nacmat
on 2003-03-25 10:00 [#00615274]
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any more opinions?
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-25 10:01 [#00615281]
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vasulkas
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-25 10:02 [#00615286]
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oskar fischinger norman mclaren
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-25 10:08 [#00615294]
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My favourite painters would be Rothko and Pollock.
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-03-25 10:27 [#00615319]
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1.1 claude debussy 1.2 philip glass 2.1 claude monet, hugo simberg 2.2 kaj stenvall 3.1 HMM, into which class does alvar aalto go in? 3.2 see above 4.1 the dada guy, must check up name 4.2 kaj frankc
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nacmat
on 2003-03-25 11:39 [#00615451]
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alvar aalto would be moden architecture... and indeed he is one of the best
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