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This is all just a ploy of the phantom gov't of the U.S. to use Israel as a puppet to force the hand of Syria and Iran (since the war in Iraq prevents them from doing it outright publicly).... Not that any of the U.S.'s conflicts, spoken of or acted upon otherwise, began several months before a country such as Iraq or North Korea switched their trade currency from the Dollar to the Euro. Syria will do so in December. Coincidence? I think not. |
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i don't hate any country of the world, israel as well i just hate the bad people which livein those countries so i could say palestine has got terrorists and israel has got xenophobe people who wanna destroy more than terrorists, they wanna destroy cities and innocents not more or less that US imperialists like to do sometimes around the world |
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yea that imperialist-zionist coalition which will lead to the apocalypse! |
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redrum- I think YOU need to get YOUR fucking facts straight. Every war that Israel has been involved in, including the 6-day war, were efforts of all the surrounding arab countries to gang up on Israel and do away with them once and for all and each time they've had their asses handed to them. Israel did not start these wars, but they did finish them. I never claimed that the Israelis are saints, but they allow Arabs to live in Israel and participate in their government. Arabs living in Israel have a way higher standard of living than the poor bastards who live under Palestinian rule. The Palestinians have been given copious amounts of aid with which they could have improved their lot and had a much nicer way of life than they do now. Instead, the money goes towards lining the pockets of their corrupt leadership and to buy bombs and weapons to be used against Israel. Their people are purposely kept to live in refugee camps so the Arabs can blame it all on Israel. Do you think any Jews are welcome in any of the surrounding Arab nations? They've been kicked out of every surrounding country. And the propaganda that you've obviously bought into regarding the alleged shelling of the family on the Gaza beach - that was a mine planted by Hamas, not a shell fired from Israel. Israelis, as opposed to Palestinians, go after militants and criminals and try to limit as much as possible the collateral damage. Whereas Palestinians aim to kill as many civilians as possible. |
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maybe because their country isn't real? there are a few things you just can't create.. a language that is supposed to work as a natural language and a country are among these things. |
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Do you actually believe that story about children killed on the beach? Does obduction of a single soldier look like a rational retaliation to such a thing? To me it looks blatantly like a provocation. |
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Well, I didn't bother to check if the obduction was supposed to be a retaliation, so in case the story is more complicated: I don't care. |
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"What're the Israelis thinking? " They aren't thinking, that's the problem. |
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Isn't Iraq such a country? |
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I actually don't know.. I have the worlds worst geography skills.. I only know about israel because there's been so much controversy there.. or do you mean right now? 'cause I think iraq was once mesopotamia which is an old country... |
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That's what I meant. I know that Iraq was created on the terrains of Mesopotamia, but when modern Iraq was established nobody believed in Enki and other sumerian gods. I suspect that at the beginning of 20-th century there were relatively as many kurds living there as nowadays for example (if not more given the massacres). Basicly Iraq was created the way it is because it was easy to govern for the British. Don't quote me on this by no means, but that's what they said in the magic box. |
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i feel sorry for them and hope they get some sense |
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anyway if you pit any "fake" country against a real one and see whivh ahs ess turbulence, the real one will win! I'll get back to yoiu when sober |
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not that i support terrorism, but come on. if you are dirt poor and you are fighting a massive military force, you gotta think outside the box. if i were in a fight with a 300 pound ultimate fighter, you better believe i'm kicking for the nuts, throwing sand, biting, fish hooking, anything to get some kind of edge. the Israelis are acting just like the U.S. all self-righteously pummeling these terrorists with little regard for collateral damage. it's a self perpetuating conflict. both sides say the other started it, like some 7 year old children, slapping each other in the back of dad's minivan. slapping harder and harder untill dad steps in and rings both their necks. I guess the UN is supposed to be dad here, but that's not really happening. |
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Because the USA wants this to happen. They can vito any action the UN might try to take. |
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yep i hate israel for this. its all over two abducted soldiers. why not do some covert shit to get them free, instead of invading a whole fucking country |
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it was a mine, placed by hamas okayyyy where the hell did you hear that? are you bill o'reilly's personal lap-dog or something? |
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im not inclined to read any pro whatever which side posts |
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Getting more and more serious and desperate by the day.. Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora said the number of Lebanese killed in the 10 days of violence was more than 330. In an interview with CNN he said that more than 55 bridges had been destroyed, and that Israeli forces had also targeted ambulances and medical convoys. |
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and alot of homeless people |
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yeah over half a million |
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fucking fucking shit |
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spread the intifada! |
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The Israeli army continues to describe these [ground offensive] operations as "pin-point", involving fewer than a thousand troops. However, reports in the Israeli media say that several thousand have already been deployed and that large numbers of reserves have been called up. Israeli Defence Minister Amir Peretz has warned that Israel is prepared to launch a full-scale ground operation if necessary. "Let no terror organisation feel we would cower from any operation," he said. "We have no intention of conquering Lebanon but... we will do it without thinking twice." This certainly won't blow over like people had optimistically expected.. |
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US-based Human Rights Watch says Israel has used cluster bombs in civilian areas during its assault on Lebanon. The group says an attack using the munitions on the village of Blida last week killed one person and injured 12. It says the explosives - which disperse after impact - are "unacceptably inaccurate and unreliable", and should not be used in populated areas. Critics say cluster bombs leave behind a large number of unexploded bomblets, which often kill long after they are fired. |
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whoa. tiannamen square again. |
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awesome |
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is it okei to be just a little bit anti-semmitic these days? |
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fuck off! |
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its ok to be anti-arab fo sho its all a front to get to iran and syria. shame, i was going to lebanon soon. |
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no, it's not ok |
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Why do people take sides? The left wing support the poor, downtrodden Arabs and the right wing prefer the (once) poor and downtrodden jews. They're ALL fucking dumb enough to believe in God! |
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we aint anti- semmitic, we´re anti Sionists! |
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israel really pisses me off the way they treat their neighbours. by doing this to lebanese civilians, intentionally or not, they are merely making more people hate them. they are breeding the terrorists they try to root out. |
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UN peacekeepers in south Lebanon contacted Israeli troops 10 times before an Israeli bomb killed four of them, an initial UN report says. The post was hit by a precision-guided missile after six hours of shelling, diplomats familiar with the probe say. this is fucking madness. |
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Israel Threatens to Bomb All Cars in Southern Lebanon Israel is now threatening to bomb all vehicles driven in Southern Lebanon. Israeli planes dropped leaflets ordering residents not to travel by car or truck. Israel has also warned residents of southern Lebanon not to go outdoors after 10 p.m. |
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not all of them believe in god, but distressingly large proportion of course... hence the killing |
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2 quick questions before i start browsing this thread : 1. has anyone mentioned the name "Bush" in this thread ? 2. has anyone mentioned the term "USA-Izrael weapons trade" ? |
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i would think israel is more of a fundamentalist state then lebanon is. |
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1. cygnus 2. probably, it's a very important point.. it, along with the inhumanely vicious way in which the weapons have been used, is the reason, in my opinion, that september 11th happened.. |
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lebanon is actually democratic! |
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not just your opinion. it's what bin laden says as well. well he mentions the fall of the towers in lebanon: "While I was looking at these destroyed towers in Lebanon, it sparked in my mind that the tyrant should be punished with the same and that we should destroy towers in America, so that it tastes what we taste and would be deterred from killing our children and women," he said. "God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the towers, but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind," he said. |
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anyway, bin laden was wrong to think that blowing up the WTC would have deterred further attacks on Palestine. we obviously cannot learn from history, or as bush likes to say "the american people will not be intimidated." So we probably should expect more 9/11 style backlash in the years to come. if the NSA is scanning this posting, i am not condoning terrorism. please don't smash into my condo and scare my baby and drag me away to GITMO or whatever. |
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You certainly can expect more 9/11 style backlash .. There's so much that's happened since - the invasion of afghanistan, guantanamo, invasion of iraq, abu ghraib, this israel-lebanon war, and much more.. Everything that's happening is just giving extremist nuts more excuses and justification (in their eyes) for their actions. |
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yeah, jeez for example... a jewish center got shot up by a palestinian supporter here in seattle. luckily, there was a Starbucks near by to evacuate the victims too (no joke). |
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