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nacmat
on 2002-03-07 16:24 [#00115826]
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hey friends....dont you get tired of discussing all the time...and about such deep things.?
I love giving a great thinking to everything but man you leave me far behind...
my english is too bad to understand the whole of your arguments so I cant follow you... I hope you get somewere... I am a bit jelaus I cant participate
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-07 16:25 [#00115830]
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I don't want to be part of the working class, I've tried it and it is rubbish. Get rich stay rich and if you have come from the working class you will bring others in your wake.
Why not have a goverment who looks after the winners.
It doesn't mater who you vote for Tory and Labour don't seem that different. Who would have thought that a Labour government would propose privatising the London Underground?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-07 16:28 [#00115837]
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Private eye are certainly elitist! I don't mean they're right wing in the sense that they support the govt/order, they're just anti-hippie -even the first few years(I know I have copies) when it was "underground"- and they're pro-formal education and working.
Jonesy: I'm welsh.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-07 16:29 [#00115839]
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Yeah but what happens during an econimc crisis? Look at Enron.
Sorry Nacmat. I feel like a twat now. Your English seems really good though
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-07 16:30 [#00115840]
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Yeah, apologies to Nacmat.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-07 16:30 [#00115841]
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Ceri: its just you seem to have no grasp of irony.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-07 16:36 [#00115852]
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Look at the adverts in Private eye, admittedley there are a few Commie ones, but most are aimed at London-type business men. Surely that gives you an idea of the reader demographic?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-07 16:36 [#00115854]
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Look at the adverts in Private eye, admittedley there are a few Commie ones, but most are aimed at London-type business men. Surely that gives you an idea of the reader demographic?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-07 16:44 [#00115866]
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i think you must be reading a different PRIVATE EYE than me... the PRIVATE EYE i read attacks corruption whichever "wing" it happens to be cowering under. it is bitingly satirical about all things -- corruption, pretensiousness, dumbing-down, spin-doctoring, policy-buying &tc -- i have the new issue right in front of me, and it certainly isn't siding with any class/education-attained -- it appeals to anyone enlightened enough not to buy baloney (no offence meant to any italian-americans :D)
as it has explained before, if a company it is attacking/satirising is dumb enough to advertise in the magazine and thus help perpetuate this great magazine's existence, then the IRONY is delicious...
oh, and it's NOT aimed at london office workers
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-07 16:47 [#00115873]
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Doesn't the image of the "typical" reader just conjure up a man with a brief case and bowler hat to you?
Ian Hislop is certainly elitist.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-07 16:47 [#00115875]
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Apparently the magazine has featured the college I work at on occassions, including my boss Dame Pat Morgan Webb. I'm not sure what's been said init as I've just started here.
The vice principal here though is on £90,000. I'm on £11,888. This makes me angry. That's eight times as much. He probably only works 12 hours a wekk and then goes to his other job that pays just as much. Hew the arther half live eh?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-07 16:55 [#00115889]
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It is nuts how much high-level academics get paid, but it's the only way of stopping them leaving to work in industry. I agree, there is a (shouldn't be saying this on the uni network :) ) lecturer who must earn about £30,000 a year and runs his own company as, comes in *1* day a week and basically uses his tutorials as beta testing for his companie's software! Takes the piss.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-07 16:57 [#00115894]
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It always wound me up when lecturers plugged their own books while my dad was back home working every hour God sends to pay for my overpriced education. They take the piss.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-07 17:00 [#00115904]
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hmm... my post is missing! shit! i said that having to conjure up a "typical" private eye reader is a pointless exercise in stereotyping..and i asked for an example of ian hislop's elitism...man i hope this one posts...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-07 17:08 [#00115918]
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My dad's class went on strike when he was a student because a lecturer MADE them have a copy of his book to enroll on his module, he claimed it was that he knew the materail and could teach the students more effectivley from it, but he was effectively getting loads of royalties each year.
Ian Hislop went to Oxford, he takes the piss out of ex-Polytechnics and doesn't think they're as good as red-brick universities. He also makes fun of people who haven't read the "classic" english literature.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-07 17:10 [#00115926]
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i have read the classics, and believe they should be more widely read.
so what if he went to Oxford, and derides polytechnics - people who went to polytechnics deride polytechnics
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-07 17:22 [#00115940]
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Yeah and that's why we (Glamorgan ex-poly) beat Loughborough University (one of the most respected red brick unis for computing) in Research last review. In fact we were only one grade less than Oxford. Bearing in mind we're a vocational as opposed to academic university I think you'll agree this shows that ex-polys are *not* inferior.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-07 17:27 [#00115945]
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personally, i don't believe in competition, and i wouldn't judge/compare a place of higher learning w/out extensive research
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wizards teeth
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-07 17:53 [#00115988]
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jonesy your list was 90 %
well done
tonight i eat meat teeth
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-03-07 18:13 [#00116014]
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marlowe:
suppose your girlfriend´s eight months pregnant and then goes: "oh, its amazing.. i´m eight months pregnant and i decided to sniff some magic markers, because i heard its healthy for me and our offspring".. i´d question her intelligence. HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA......
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-07 18:51 [#00116059]
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I would ask to see the article detailing why it would be actively healthy to inhale magic markers, read it, shrug, and continue reading "fear and loathing in america"
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-08 09:05 [#00117017]
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Ha ha Marlowes reading Fear and Loathing in America too! Have you read the proud highway too?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-08 09:10 [#00117026]
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Ceri: I don't know your brother. He was much older than me by the sounds of it. Where did you go - Barry Boys?
Yes you're right to be worried. I'm slowly teasing information out about you so that when I come back at the end of the month I can hunt you down like a helpless lil bunny wabbit. Ha, ha.
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-03-10 19:49 [#00120100]
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A FACT:
WHEN YOU INHALE SOLVENTS (SUPPOSE YOU DO IT FREQUENTLY) THE CHEMICALS GO ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH YOUR LUNGS AND INTO YOUR BLOOD. AND COME TO THINK YOU SHARE BLOOD WITH YOUR UNBORN CHILD, THIS IS NOT A NICE THING TO DO TO YOUR CHILD.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-10 20:03 [#00120119]
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i haven't seen PROUD HIGHWAY yet unfortunately - but i certainly want to get it since most of his stuff is from 68 onwards. :)
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-10 20:04 [#00120121]
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You dont share the *actual* blood with the baby. Its just all the stuff filters in.
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