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then i feel sorry for our youngsters :) |
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you could write a story about that section couldn't you :) that doesn't seem to happen with most new music if you know what i mean :-) |
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I don't think it's purity so much, nor innoncence, but cheeky yes, and bold, and inventive. Now things are "arch" or "referential", which isn't their fault, it's that culture's accelerated. The 90s should have lasted 30 years. |
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Haha! 'lush melody' idiot. |
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There must be a program to spit out "Lush melodies" and "Fucked up beats". I think Iran's developing it under the guise of their nuclear Reaktor. |
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nonono, i don't want to accuse anyone for being guilty of anything... i just don't want to become all nostalgic yet or better: i don't want to be lead by nostalgic emotions by judging actual artists' outputs. they draw their influences from their heroes as those did with theirs and so on, and it's ok. i only think that, just as it is ridiculous to think artistic relevance is boostable by "virtuosity" and more and more "complicated beats" in this actual case it's no better to just take a simplistic approach just for the sake of itself, as a mere raction. like i said, people should just do what really "concerns" them and no matter what form they choose, i think it's feelable, through all genres. sometimes i even feel such "authenticity" from artists but still i just can't be moved by it because it's not my "concern" but still can appreciate it for what it is... (not that often, tho ;P) |
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i used the term fully aware that it has become part of the idm-cliché... i also don't like the ending of the track as much as the first half |
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Yeah, what you said amounted to nothing. |
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yes i think i do know what you mean... of course it's always only some special artists swimming on a sea of mediocre ones that'll make it in the end... but as for me, i could never really point out what generally makes an artist special to me... often it's just mere personal reasons, foe example certain memories in conjunction with certain albums etc... and why not |
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yeah, i don't have anything objective to hold on to either. |
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you really think so? :( sorry, i thought i tried |
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The Problem Rock n Roll = Sex Heavy Metal = Used to = Sex now = Dungeons and Dragons House = Sex UK Garage = Stabbing someone outside Tulse Hill station Punk = Sex (with a dippy bird with a prong through her labia) IDM = Discussing what computer program or antiqudated bit of old Tandy kit it was banged out on. |
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Not including the IDM celebs: Telefon Tel Aviv - Map of What is Effortless Quinoline Yellow - Dol Goy Assist Made - Tracktitle Global Goon - Family Glue The Gasman - Electric Palace of Variety DAT Politics - Plugs Plus D'Arcangelo - Broken Toys Corner Casino Versus Japan - Hitori + Kaiso 1998 - 2001 Boy Robot - Glamorizing Corporate Lifestyle Jackson and His Computer Band - Smash |
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that's so dead-on it's scary. |
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i'd like to buy two t-shirts with that entire post... one for me and one to give to a dippy bird with a prong through her labia. |
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I was going to mention Dol Goy Assist :) |
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well put, sir. |
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chekc this out: (it s from 99).. very unknown and hard to find I think Einóma - Undir Feilnotum Scanner - Reason By Heart, Sleep By Twilight |
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brothomstates, chris clark, quinoline yellow. All quite new on the "scene" and all fucking quality! |
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So. What you want us to do is make a list of things that YOU like? Now, that's hard. If "last couple of years" is, say from 2002 to now, I can list albums I like; Geogaddi, Draft, Ultravisitor, Vatican Nitez, the last album from Deathprod, Clickits, Porn Sword Tobacco, Bola's Gnayse and Four Tet's (OMFG) Rounds. I'm sure I can list 20 albums I think is good BTW: Posts like "it's just that electronic music what it used to be anymore..." and "But, then (2001-2002 or so.) shitty retro guitar rock took over everything." makes you sound like grumpy old men. Get a grip |
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this thread had some A+ laughs in it excellent stuff :) |
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havent seen him, dont know if he even came to spain SEXY? MMMMM |
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last bitstream last autechre last team doyobi analords quantum transposition - arpanet lienbuse - studio pankow isolee - we are monster autophonic - slack jackson and his computer band - smash |
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i said list of things you like didn't i? and it isn't my problem if you've got low standards :) i can just say good for you! |
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I think the biggest evolvement in electronic music the last years have been in the field of acoustic-electronic, laptop folk and such. Music made by combining electronics and acoustic instruments, samples of acoustic instruments and vocals. |
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yeah, but after 200.000 people started doing the same thing over and over again it went shit for me. |
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just to clarify, i'm not at all worried that electronic music isn't progressing or that there isn't anything interesting going on anymore. i do feel that there are a lot of areas that have stagnated somewhat, but that is in no way unique to this type of music at this historical juncture. i think electronics are being used to interesting/entertaining ends still, but for me this is primarily happening in areas where it isn't often pure "electronic music" perse, particularly not as i understand it in the context of this thread. |
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indietronica sux. fucking coldplay-fanbois with toy keyboards |
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I gotta admit I like some Four Tet tunes, but he's been up to this sort of thing since about 1997. |
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i havent heard any four-tet. i thought it was trip-hop. im wrong? |
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Yeah, he ain't trip hop. He is good, I'm not a massive fan, but I can appreciate he's a talented guy, definately. Prefuse 73 has been the main electronic artist of the past 5 years, for me. And his music definately = sex, unlike 99% of idm, as DBelch pointed out. |
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i would also say yellotone - tar file junction |
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haha, the heavy metal bit is a good one! this ridiculously strong emphasis on thechnial matters isnt alone a problem of electronic music, though... ever talked to rock/metal musicians (especially guitar-players) about their art? they're always glad to find someone to talk about which instruments/adjustments/amps/doublebassmachines do produce the best/loudest/classic/bluesy blah blah sound... *yawn* |
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as with punk... i've made experiences ironically close to the actual discussion here. people suddenly wanting to sound like their heroes from 77 again in search for DA TRUE SPIRIT OF PUNK... jeesh. in this case it's often even more disgusting, since also ideas of "political" relevance are deeply connected with the aesthetic discussion of punkrock. so there they sit in front of their computer screens, with "dirt under their fingernails which they placed there with silver tweezers" and self-ripped and cut jeans pants, flaming on internet forums about who is more punk, who's got the proper soundtrack to "revolution"... and in the end the one who's able to mindlessly paraphrase the most neo-marxist/frankfurt school-thinkers "wins"... yuk. and those emo whinos on myspace are also very well representatives of punk 2006. it's just over, so what. |
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There's a good book by Simon Reynolds called Postpunk 78-84 which basically says punk was over by 78 and all the smart original players had already moved onto other things like synthpop, industrial, art rock, dub, funk or whatever. Being in a noisy guitar band in 2006 is the least "punk" thing I can think of. |
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