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offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-05-03 06:27 [#01891710]
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get a gun...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-03 06:31 [#01891713]
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Yeah, it's a bit rubbish that no matter how good you are at
martial arts, someone with a gun and the willingness to use
(and half decent aim) can do you in without any trouble at
all. I actually wish we'd never progressed past swords.


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2006-05-03 08:50 [#01891773]
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i study japanese old style budo. been to japan 3 times to
train with the masters. sometimes we wear samurai armour and
work with that. Its so far removed from the movies its not
funny.

Bruce lee is to martial arts what madonna is to music.... i
like to think what i study is to martial arts is what
squarepusher is to music.... a whole nother level.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-05-03 08:51 [#01891776]
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i could take him


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-05-03 08:58 [#01891783]
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they both look good doing it though :)


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2006-05-03 09:26 [#01891801]
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i'm not a fan but he is defintiely an interestig
character..

here's a bio... LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-03 09:56 [#01891811]
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Keys, out of interest, is part of the reason why you aren't
a fan his openly non-classical style? I can certainly see
the rationale for being anti "taking the bits you like from
several styles"; The fact that if everyone did it, within a
100 years there would be no classical styles to borrow from
etc. is a valid one.

Talking of which, I'm going back to Judo in a few months
time. I'm really looking forwards to it.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-03 10:07 [#01891814]
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on the flip side,a decent boxer is allways gonna knock you
the fuck out on the street.
whatever colour your belt.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-03 10:15 [#01891821]
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I dunno. One of our masters was a local hardman who in his
youth had been a very keen amateur boxer and won competitons
etc. He could punch obscenely hard (I still shuddering when
I remember seeing him punch a 6ft kick bag so hard that it
ripped the supporting metal brackets off the wall) and had a
typical boxer's build, but still thought that grappling,
kicks, limb breaks and pressure points were useful tools in
a streetfight.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-03 10:19 [#01891824]
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well of course not every situation,but you can train
manyyears at m/arts before you start to get good.
12 months boxing and your ready to kick arse



 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2006-05-03 10:23 [#01891825]
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cerijc....i'm not really anti-what-you said per se. Much of
the BL phenonomen just seems like overblown media whorage to
me.

I've met martial artists who aren't into such flashiness and
quietly learn stuff they need in actual combat or dangerous
situations...police, soldiers, mental health peopel ect -
jkd and B.L's whole philosophy just seems like a mish mash
that feeds off the western misuderstanding, at the time
anyway, of the nature of martial arts, based on movies and
over-commercialised karate, judo and other such modern
sports arts.

Rather than a mish mash, I study an art that evolved
through every era of war since the middle ages and was used
by combatents during those times to survive aggression. I'm
afraid it mightn't look good at all but it gets the job done
for those who need it. Nearest i seen to it in film is
Bourne identity and Twilight Samurai and a few kurasawa
movies.. no flash no high kicks no messing!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-03 10:50 [#01891842]
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Amen to that. A mate (who admittedly is a bodybuilder) only
did boxing for six months and could trounce me with my 5
years mixed martial arts experience (and I'm not small).

Keys: Yep, the Bourne fights are pretty realistic. They're
like the supposedly new martial arts marketed towards
soldiers and police (but really adhereing to the classical
principles of simple, effective combat like you described).
Utterly devoid of "art", mysticism or flash stuff like jump
kicks etc.


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2006-05-03 11:10 [#01891863]
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in fact, the top guy in what i do in the states (jack hoban)
help create the new marine MA course you described.

by the way i think judo's an excellent sport so good luck
with getting back into it.



 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-03 15:04 [#01892023]
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the flashiness, BL admitted, was especially for the movies.
furthermore, in those days he had to deal with directors who
wanted the flashiness. the 'style' he developped was
supposed to be as efficient and pragmatic as possible (he
called it the style without a style).

anyways, i'm a big fan
nothing but respect for the lee-man


 


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