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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2005-09-04 09:21 [#01714967]
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I'd imagine it's a nice insight into how ae were working at that point in time, and might spark some interesting ideas, but that's about it. I think it goes without saying that using it "pure" would be the height of rudeness, never mind being completely fucking anti-creative. I'd have a mess myself if i could actually be bothered figuring out max/msp.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 09:23 [#01714968]
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Yep, I totally agree.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-09-04 09:24 [#01714970]
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Aw I'm just funnin yas, lol
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 09:29 [#01714971]
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lolz
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-04 09:34 [#01714972]
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xceque was right. This could actually be a good vibes idea!!! Too bad we have 37 of them going on right now
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 09:36 [#01714973]
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Yes, I also think an "80's vibe" could be awesome.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-04 09:36 [#01714974]
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I think we should try for the magic number.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-04 09:42 [#01714978]
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im gonna have mexican for tea,maybe just maybe with a beer.
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ToXikFB
on 2005-09-04 09:45 [#01714980]
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is that not illegal?
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-04 09:51 [#01714981]
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not in the uk,one has to look these things up first
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-04 10:59 [#01715019]
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OK- Here is the Mac version of the Max/MSP patch. From what I understand, it is *the* version that was used to write Liccflii on EP7. It begins with the obligatory mac error sound (I fucked up WireTap) and then you'll hear hard changes in the track. That's me hitting the space bar. Each time I do, it writes a new version of the track. Give a listen, you'll hear the changes:
Sound Screen Shot
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 11:03 [#01715023]
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Yes, the pure data conversion was far from perfect, but it works. I'm gonna start converting it to reaktor and improve it alot as we've talked about.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-04 11:17 [#01715029]
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You should talk to ThomasRhombus aka Awepittance aka Fluourescent Grey of RecordLabelRecords, the guy who made that Untilted fake. He's doing a similar project in Reaktor as well... though he's found out the CPU toll is greater in there than in Max or PD
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-09-04 11:22 [#01715031]
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sounds alright
the low stuff is badass but everything else is kinda...
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sean qunt
from BELFAST on 2005-09-04 12:36 [#01715085]
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have you died in the middle of writing that sentence?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-09-04 15:13 [#01715167]
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yes
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-04 15:39 [#01715172]
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i died once,but im ok now.the doc said within weeks i should be singing again
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maphive
from 3% step and 54foot-slide on 2005-09-04 19:47 [#01715325]
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so this patch makes the kicks , clicks and all the other sounds just start generating ? lol
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-05 01:54 [#01715444]
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huh?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-05 07:49 [#01715454]
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this patch makes the kicks , clicks and all the other sounds just start generating ?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-09-05 08:00 [#01715458]
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huh?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-05 08:22 [#01715472]
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? generating start just sounds other the all and clicks , kicks the makes patch this
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-05 08:41 [#01715478]
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huh?
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yann_g
from now on 2005-09-05 08:46 [#01715481]
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it's not that ep7ish, sounds more like cichli suite, because it's way less compressed.
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yann_g
from now on 2005-09-05 08:52 [#01715485]
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?huh
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-05 08:52 [#01715486]
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huh?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-05 08:54 [#01715487]
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My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard; and they're like, it's better than yours, you're damn right it's better than yours. I could teach you, but I'd have to charge.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-05 08:55 [#01715488]
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nahnahnanahnarr
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ymenard
on 2005-09-05 08:58 [#01715491]
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¿ЧחЧ
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-05 09:00 [#01715492]
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warm it up.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-05 09:21 [#01715508]
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I'm about to. Warm it up Kris, cuz that's what I's was born to do.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-05 11:38 [#01715540]
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DO IT!
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-05 12:10 [#01715553]
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Mackin' Ain't Easy
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pascbix
on 2005-09-05 21:43 [#01715821]
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Hey gl0tch, were you able to re-write this patch for a more recent version of Max/MSP? I remember running across the link for this patch, but i don't have MaxPlay 3.6 to check the layout.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-06 03:56 [#01715912]
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It work's on my copy of max/msp 4.54
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Archrival
on 2005-09-06 04:01 [#01715914]
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fucking nice track! im liking it lots :)
is it that easy to make that kind of stuff or is it just that u got serious skills ;)
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-06 04:08 [#01715916]
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Thanks, but I didn't really try hard enough to desvere much credit, I only layered some pads and "glitches" from supercolloder.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-06 06:20 [#01715988]
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Sorry for such a vague question, but how long and how much planning would it take to make that track in MAX/MSP? I like this version, btw.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-06 06:23 [#01715990]
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You just have to start the patch and press space.
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oyvinto
on 2005-09-06 10:38 [#01716185]
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oh shit!!! the hillbilly redneck in my class some years ago was right. to make electronic music you just have to hold down a button.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-06 10:59 [#01716236]
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Haha, well it's different when you made the program yourself :p
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-06 11:45 [#01716301]
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You're shitting me yeah?
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pascbix
on 2005-09-06 12:27 [#01716333]
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impakt, where did you come across this patch?
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-06 12:45 [#01716357]
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No, I'm not :p
pascbix : the lovely people of maxmsp.ru
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thodob
from Bergen (Norway) on 2005-09-06 13:01 [#01716368]
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sweet imdal for release!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-06 13:10 [#01716375]
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Jesus. If only i could get Pure Data working on this machine.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-06 13:21 [#01716383]
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I'll guide you through it when I'm done with this mix I'm doing, any minute now. I'm on slsk.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-06 13:29 [#01716388]
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It's cool man. It works on my work computer but won't run on this one.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-06 13:34 [#01716393]
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Ok :)
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-06 13:40 [#01716399]
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CS2x -
I am pretty certain this was THE patch used to write Liccflii on EP7. Listen to the sound samples I provided, then listen to the track. Its so similar its beyond being coincidental.
To answer your question though, this patch has over 30 subpatchs and abstractions. Though some adopt a modular approach in borrowing core elements for different parts of the main patch (for instance, the Simple FM~ abstraction), I would think it would take a while for even a seasoned Max programmer to wrap there head around this.
Assumming they started from a clean slate, didnt borrow from previous experiments, etc... I would think something like this would take months from start to finish (beginning the patch, tweaking, finalizing, sequencing the results, making it an actual "song," mastering it, etc.)
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