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b6662966
from ? on 2005-06-01 06:10 [#01618681]
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jesus.....in the short time ive been visiting here ive come to the realization that most of the users/mods here are a bunch of whining hags. get a fuckin life, i mean who the hell argues about stupid shit like this??
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Opto
on 2005-06-01 06:11 [#01618682]
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if after 50 replies no one did anything to support jedi, i think that clears the pole for statement that he wasnt that much liked at all. after all, its only woofers friends, and the rest have something against, so please delete thiz thread, as it makes this mb looking like pathetic soap opera.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-06-01 06:12 [#01618683]
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It takes a real man to listen and try to understand a viewpoint that he doesnt hold.
true. and it takes a man not to hide behind the mod shield - and laugh instead of answering questions straight.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-01 06:20 [#01618687]
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I found Jedi Chris to be a normal guy. Until he did that banning fest.
Heheh, I'm nervous about every post now. I don't feel like being banned again.
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Opto
on 2005-06-01 06:22 [#01618689]
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yes, normal = typical, like the rest 500 here. i havent seen any support threads, and there are really ones that would need them more.
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Marshmelo
from United Kingdom on 2005-06-01 06:22 [#01618690]
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Makes the mb look like a soap opera! LOL It already is a soap opera, a huge drama between those that fall out over a sneeze!
Jedi Chris placed a permanent ban on himself. Had he not, he'd be back next week to make the situation worse! Phobiazero didn't ban him, and didn't want to ban him. The problem with this place is the 'little' people who think they have a 'big' say. You don't. People who have nothing better to do than challenge the integrity and authority of those who THE GUY IN CHARGE has put into power. If you have a problem with the moderators, tell the guy in charge, don't take it upon yourself to spoil everyone elses fun by dragging it out across the mb. It's not big, it's not clever, and it's certainly not making this place look like a decent place to be.
IMHO.
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Opto
on 2005-06-01 06:24 [#01618696]
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what suprises me is the fact that phob, after what happened didnt wanted to get rid of jedi - this would be a question if it would come to anhyone gray from the list, but WHOAH, there we have friendship which prevents from equal judgements and serving the same rights to everyone. this makes the board a sad place, but start to complain, you wil be flamed, thats one rule here.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-01 06:26 [#01618699]
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Who is in your avatar? He looks like one of my favorite musicians, although I may be mistaken.
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Marshmelo
from United Kingdom on 2005-06-01 06:27 [#01618702]
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Do yourself a favour:
Step yourself outside, you're irritating me.
Before u go, click the logout button, close the window, and never come back.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-01 06:30 [#01618709]
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I've just spent two essay-like posts, 'answering questions straight.'
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-06-01 06:31 [#01618712]
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you know what, you're a fucking troll. how the fuck could you know and talk about mb affairs with only 33 posts? ceri jc, im starting to doubt your integrity here.
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xceque
on 2005-06-01 06:33 [#01618713]
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Eh? I think you'll find that extra liberty is given to some people above others due to past experience and judgement. For instance, mods would be given greater latitude since, in the webmaster's opinion they have been deemed stable and capable enough to be made a mod in the first place. Unknowns and wankers won't get the same because they are unknown or wankers.
Friendships get formed in a similar way so that there is a link between favouritism and friendship is really not a surprise.
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xceque
on 2005-06-01 06:34 [#01618715]
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It looks like Lt Cmdr Data to me.
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Marshmelo
from United Kingdom on 2005-06-01 06:35 [#01618716]
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Oh, so because you're Mr 3239 posts, you're the knowledge on mb affairs? Get a life.
And you accuse me of being a troll - well all I can say is "takes one to know one", and you're the author of the book on being a troll, so I'd say you're a pretty good judge.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-01 06:35 [#01618717]
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Marshmelo
from United Kingdom on 2005-06-01 06:36 [#01618718]
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It's actually Lore, Data's 'brother' ;-)
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xceque
on 2005-06-01 06:36 [#01618719]
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cuntychuck & Marshmelo: steady chaps. no flame wars
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-06-01 06:39 [#01618722]
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ive been here four years, i think i should know what there is to know about this mb.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-01 06:39 [#01618723]
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awww Im sad now. :(
It looked like a dark ambient artist I really love called Robert Rich. I have yet to meet anyone online or in real life who likes his music!
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-01 06:41 [#01618724]
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except me ;)
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Marshmelo
from United Kingdom on 2005-06-01 06:42 [#01618726]
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I respect the fact that you, and others have been here for a long time, but be under no illusion: I know plenty about the workings of mb's having run one once, quite successfully myself. All it takes to bring one down, is someone irresponsible, and malicious to spoil everyones fun.
I don't think that is why any of us are here, really.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-01 06:44 [#01618728]
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Oh yeah! Were you the one who started a thread about my avatar which turned into a 2-way Steve Roach/Robert Rich discussion?
Sorry, I forgot that we mentioned Robert Rich too. Get "Fissures", it's really beautiful.
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Opto
on 2005-06-01 06:45 [#01618730]
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thats bollocks
first messageboard where friendship evolves into favouritism should be first messageboard to disappear.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-06-01 06:45 [#01618731]
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the problem is you dont know shit about what happened in earlier xlt history. and therefore you cant make a clear judgement of the situation. are you a friend of jedi chris? if so, its pretty understandable you support him no matter what i might say or think.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-01 06:47 [#01618733]
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d/ling now
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Opto
on 2005-06-01 06:48 [#01618734]
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thats the point. friendships in real life shouldnt interfere in internet board, that would be just pathetic, just AS IT IS FUCKIN NOW. WHERES THE FUCKIN WEBMASTER TO CLEAN THIS SHIT I ASK.
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Marshmelo
from United Kingdom on 2005-06-01 06:49 [#01618735]
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Yes, he is my friend and I am well versed in the history of this place, but whilst I am his friend I do not condone his actions.
That would be very short sighted of me. Whilst what he did was wrong, he did have the boards best interests in mind. He wasn't forced off by phobiazero, he went of his own free will, and he had the decency to admit, although not apologise for being wrong.
Are you going to shun me for having my own free thinking comments? Or should I leave the board now, just because I don't follow what you want me to say?
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b6662966
from ? on 2005-06-01 06:50 [#01618736]
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i just cant stay away from this one ..u guys realize youre talking about a messageboard on the internet right?
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-06-01 06:50 [#01618737]
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no, you should just stay out of these threads. easy as that.
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xceque
on 2005-06-01 06:51 [#01618738]
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My point was that any bias might be a result of favouritism and/or friendship, or something else. Proven worth being the most likely. If you've not proven your worth, you won't get the same latitude as someone who has. The mods, to a greater or lesser degree all have "proven their worth".
Except Ophecks, who has "proven they're Worth". /me laughs at own crap joke.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-01 06:53 [#01618739]
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Whilst your arguement is steamingly hearty, does
Now online (47) Gwely Mernans WarpKari isnieZot b6662966 J198 Marshmelo Cheffe1979 vlari welt tolstoyed tridenti cuntychuck Opto fleetmouse Zephyr Twin Combo xceque thatne Peter Chrisp Bob Mcbob colani CS2x pigster WooferAttack WeaklingChild somejerk eXXailon Empiricus Ceri JC qrter leonid_olusegun zero-cool epohs marlowe AlbertoBalsalm chambre noire Drunken Mastah ed_abstract euphonicfilter DeleriousWeasel Phresch Morgoth redrum Laserbeak melack avart obara ...and 4 guests
Last 5 registered Erns ed_abstract niec knobfollower Franklin
really deserve to hear it? I think not, Lore.
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Marshmelo
from United Kingdom on 2005-06-01 06:53 [#01618741]
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I think this all needs to be drawn to a close as it has been dragging on for days.
Jedi Chris has gone.
Some people are happy, others not.
He's not coming back, and things should now move on so that the board can try and maintain some credability.
It's just a mb on the Internet, and it has no consequence in real life. Lets all just try and leave this alone, and get back to talking about music.
Thats all I have to say on the matter.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-06-01 06:54 [#01618742]
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yeah, i know that... everything started after my post about ban of tridenti. Finally you understand HOW MUCH IS MY POWER, my friend!
jokes apart i didn't desire this final result, i think in some way jedy chris made some error, but he doesn't deserve all bad words many of you think about him and doesn't deserve a temp ban.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-06-01 06:57 [#01618744]
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i liked the pretty lightsabres in the avatars, they were fun to look at and made me feel like part of a community. lets bring them back, because, oh so shiney!
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-01 06:58 [#01618746]
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your next poll should be something about all the drama thats been going down :P
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-01 06:58 [#01618747]
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Right, consider this your warning.
As an aside, there are plenty of people who don't post shite incessantly to bump their post count up as if this somehow confers credibility to their account. There are plenty of people who lurk and post here sporadically and people who came here in the ATNU days and have rejoined here only recently. Remember, you don't have to be logged in to read the board.
As Xceque has said, like it or not, moderators are not 'normal board members'. We have been granted powers above and beyond those of normal users because we are deemed to be responsible and honest. If you belong to any other boards and are honest about the way we behave here compared to most boards, I think you'll find that for the large part, are mods our generally very down to earth and do not treat other users like dirt. Nor do they tend to act superior in matters not related to board moderation. Perhaps this culture of behaving in this way has worked against us and it explains why people take such offence when they are banned/have threads closed, "You're no different to me, you can't ban me, etc." Sorry, as is stated in the FAQ we can and will, if we find you annoying, or bad for the board. Who decides what's annoying or bad for the board? Us. The moderators.
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Opto
on 2005-06-01 07:01 [#01618756]
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if this is your statement, and mods are proven to be over us, coz they deserved, then jedi deserved BAN, and a PERM for what he DID in his weakness, therefore, its sad that you still defend him, and cant admit that he acted like child, stupid child, for what many would be banned without any thread.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-01 07:03 [#01618758]
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I appreciate the way Marshmelo speaks respectfully and logically without all the usual swearing and lame insults. Even if I don't agree, that's a breath of fresh air...welcome aboard.
Gwely Mernans, tell me what you think of Fissures! If you like meditating to Mystic Chords, I'm sure this one will be very interesting. It's not dark, but it changes a fair bit and has lots of themes running into one another.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-01 07:04 [#01618761]
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to all mods:
An idea has struck me, and not a bad one at that. go through [selected members] posts, up to 100, if 50 or more are complaing/nagging/argueing, give a temp.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-01 07:06 [#01618764]
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I'm actually quite giddy about hearing this! Robert Rich has never let me down. Steve Roach has on a few occasions (not bad songs mind you, just a little too much of the same ole)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-01 07:06 [#01618765]
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Cer-ching; Consider this your warning. I as a moderator represent the webmasters. The same webmasters, I may point out, that know each other in real life. By your logic, I suppose that means the whole board should be closed, right?
I've never liked you and looking back at your past 100 posts, every other one seems to be a negative attack on someone or picking a fight. Your frankly rather racist comments to Cygnus in that recent thread alone justify a ban, but given the recent banning debacle, I thought it would be wise to formally warn you first.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-01 07:09 [#01618768]
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Ha ha, massive co-incedence, I made my last post (comment regarding last 100 posts) before reading your excellent suggestion. Great minds think alike and all that :)
I heartily agree with it and would recommend other mods use it as additional justification when issuing a ban/warning.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-01 07:11 [#01618769]
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Yeah, and apart from that, Steve Roach stuff occasionally sounds rushed. Although the beauty of The Magnificent Void is yet to be matched by any DA artist imo.
Ceri JC, I think the warning idea is good. Maybe I deserved my ban, but it did come as a surprise.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-01 07:11 [#01618770]
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:)
personally I don't find a single post worth a ban, (depends though) but rather the general mood and output of the member throughout time.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-01 07:14 [#01618774]
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I think it's a good idea too. If someone is constantly being unpleasant, then why are they here? To insult people?
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Opto
on 2005-06-01 07:15 [#01618775]
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great now i know what comes to me right ?
and maybe the past 100 posts were only stupid for you ? will you take the responsibility of judgement someone without proper trial ? for making a desicion liek that ? you forgot ceri that you have been given powers to guard the board, not to threat others for what in your opinion is wrong. phob has given you the powers just because he couldnt be here all of the time, and this power has overwhelmed some ppl as it seems.
half of ppl banned at this time is banned coz they have said something "wrong" about a mod, that makes a rule for me, not too nice btw.
im just back from my week ban aswell, to this point i dont know why and by whio, and i dont care, but you remember ceri, that youre not god of this mb, you should serve with good advice and calm mind, not with threats. even if you will see some ppl arguing iin other threads - for my arguing had a point somewhere, while some of the threads are pointless, and i havent seen their creators been warned by any of the mods.
sadly to say, this whole mess wouldnt be happening if only you would do something in past - remember the fuss when jedi was picked up to be a mod ? now the reaction of ppl , for me, would be enough to do something, while at this past stage the board was left to its own srach due to wars between people. now the situation comes to worse, as i see that one jedi case is spoiling hate all over the place. my argue with cygnus was my case, not yours, so you shoul dsimply go nto thread and say " behave guys". have you warned him aswell ? no strange, coz i can remember that he insulted me as first, didnt he ?
my dear ceri, you cant expect ppl just sitting and watching, just look how many opinions about jedi we do have now in here, how many of them are positive ? does that means nothing to you ?
and please, i dont need your mercy. mb is a mb, where you can expect everything, even argues. i was here before i started to post for a long time, so please dont judge me by my points - thats would be
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-01 07:16 [#01618776]
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The Magnificant Void and The Dream Circle fit hand in hand, although the void has much more variety. Both convey similar moods to me.
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Opto
on 2005-06-01 07:18 [#01618778]
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plain stupid.
PLUS, youve seen my last 100 posts. so what ? im pretty sure not all of them were argues, did they ?
and this :
I've never liked you
so you can say that, we cant eh ? you should put away your personal feeling my long lost friend, and try to look at these things as we are doing it. bannage doesnt solve anything, and you know that.conversation - yes.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-01 07:19 [#01618779]
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"Altus" is the one track that could replace drugs for me. ;) It just sounds so expansive and powerful, and it never lets off but keeps building up. He must have been possessed while he made that track.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-06-01 07:20 [#01618780]
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ceri jc, i really really dont get this, if you care to explain it to me. why do i get a warning for stating my opinion? i didnt do it in any negative fashion. if you cant have a serious debate without getting threatened with a ban what messageboard is this then? you can agree with me or not, but using powers forcing me to agree with you, i dont like that. yes the faq's reads that if you dont think im cool you have the right to ban me, but isnt there a fine borderline between stating your opinion and insulting? please elaborate.
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