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offline xceque on 2005-06-01 07:23 [#01618782]
Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Followup to Opto: #01618775 | Show recordbag



you forgot ceri that you have been given powers to guard
the board, not to threat others for what in your opinion is
wrong.

no, that's exactly the "powers" we have. we have rules to
stick to enable our opinions to be guided, but its our
opinions that we have to use to make the descision.

Personally I disagreed with most of the way that Jedi Chris
moderated, but that's not been my point.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-01 07:24 [#01618784]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker | Followup to CS2x: #01618779



altus, hmm not too good with single track names, whats that
one from?

opto, go away.. for a long time.

cuntychuck, its not just about a heated debate, but rather
the unpleasant appearence of it clouding up threads which in
turn bother other members who get turned off by xlt and
leave!


 

offline xceque on 2005-06-01 07:25 [#01618785]
Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Followup to Opto: #01618778 | Show recordbag



Jesus christ if you're not hyakusen you must be his twin.
Every time something is said you take it slightly out of
context and misinterpret it as being negative and targeted
at your personal liberty.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-06-01 07:25 [#01618786]
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This thread is going nowhere.

It will only result in people pushing Ceri's buttons until
he temp bans someone (maybe). Opto and cunty both have
plenty to contribute to the mb when there isn't a fight
going on.

I don't think anything is going to be resolved in this
thread. Jedi Chris banned himself. He's not here to speak
for himself so the dialogue about this issue is going to be
skewed.

Can we please just try to move on guys?


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2005-06-01 07:26 [#01618788]
Points: 9939 Status: Regular



aww happy cartoon pig turns into angry finger :(


 

offline Opto on 2005-06-01 07:27 [#01618789]
Points: 1016 Status: Addict | Followup to xceque: #01618785



no no, you just dont understand me, thats all.

at start i was suposed to be jAroen, phob banned me, then
took ban away, didnt said "sorry". not im hyakusen, which
was here yesterday as i remember. who am i gonna be next
time ?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-01 07:27 [#01618790]
Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to Opto: #01618775 | Show recordbag



You don't make sense, my 'threats' as such were warnings,
the very warnings which people have complained of a lack of
where banning has been concerned, of late.

"will you take the responsibility of judgement someone
without proper trial ?"


Yes, happily. The evidence is there; your posting history.
This isn't a death sentence, it's stopping you being a pain
in the ass on an internet messageboard: We don't need 12 men
good and true to decide to ban you. What do you think we do,
hold some xltronic high court where all the moderators and
webmasters fly out to one location, then vote on issuing a
temp ban for a particular user?

I find it ironic that those who behave in an immature and
anti-social manner, who don't seem to give a damn about the
board are those who take the matter of being temp banned the
most seriously. People who I'd count as 'good' users I've
had cause to temp ban in the past have later turned out to
be the most civil about it and no longer bear a grudge
relating to the matter. It's the petty, spiteful people,
that the board really doesn't need who act as though being
temp banned is tantamount to physical assault.

Thanks for letting me know you were temp banned recently
though. That has helped me make the decision to up it to a
permanent ban, should I choose to issue it. Cheers.


 

offline Opto on 2005-06-01 07:29 [#01618791]
Points: 1016 Status: Addict | Followup to Ceri JC: #01618790



no prob.


 

offline xceque on 2005-06-01 07:29 [#01618792]
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Good idea


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-06-01 07:29 [#01618793]
Points: 8603 Status: Lurker | Followup to Gwely Mernans: #01618784



i get that, and im not trying to start i fight or whatever
you called. i dont get why its a fight, exchanging stands
isnt a fight? ive been exchanging my point of views and got
a warning for that which to me seems unfair. but alright,
i'll let this go, as it really doesnt matter anyway.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-01 07:31 [#01618794]
Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to cuntychuck: #01618780 | Show recordbag



Your comment implied that you believe marshmello to be a
duplicate account of Jedi Chris and as such, called me a
liar.


 

offline xf from Australia on 2005-06-01 07:31 [#01618795]
Points: 2952 Status: Lurker



blah blah blah. just shut up.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-06-01 07:32 [#01618796]
Points: 11941 Status: Moderator | Followup to xf: #01618795 | Show recordbag



FUCK YOU, MAN!


 

offline xceque on 2005-06-01 07:32 [#01618797]
Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Followup to pomme de terre: #01618796 | Show recordbag



*giggles*


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-01 07:33 [#01618798]
Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to Ceri JC: #01618794 | Show recordbag



Sorry, I posted that before I saw your previous post. I'm
happy to drop the matter too.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2005-06-01 07:33 [#01618799]
Points: 4286 Status: Lurker



There's a lot of guys getting warnings here today because
somebody has spat the dummy out of the pram. Somewhat
reminiscent of jedi_chris methinks. I think it's time for
phobiazero to re-evaluate the character of the people he
assigns to be moderators. It shouldn't be the guys that lick
his ass the most, it should be guys who are fair and honest.


 

offline Marshmelo from United Kingdom on 2005-06-01 07:34 [#01618800]
Points: 73 Status: Lurker | Followup to pomme de terre: #01618796



I quite agree! :)


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2005-06-01 07:35 [#01618802]
Points: 9939 Status: Regular



i think phoby should make ME a moderator, because i hate
the other mods the MOST



 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2005-06-01 07:35 [#01618803]
Points: 9939 Status: Regular | Followup to pomme de terre: #01618786



oh ok then


 

offline Marshmelo from United Kingdom on 2005-06-01 07:35 [#01618804]
Points: 73 Status: Lurker | Followup to bill_hicks: #01618799



Take your dick out of your arse and realise that if you keep
posting deliberately argumentative threads the moderators
are not going to just sit back and laugh.

This whole situation was born of people like you saying
dumbass things, here we are trying to move on, and you go
and spout rubbish like that. What a surprise.



 

offline xceque on 2005-06-01 07:38 [#01618806]
Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Followup to Marshmelo: #01618804 | Show recordbag



uh-oh. bill_ won't take that very kindly...


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2005-06-01 07:43 [#01618809]
Points: 4630 Status: Lurker | Followup to pomme de terre: #01618786



your avatar upsets me


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2005-06-01 07:48 [#01618811]
Points: 9939 Status: Regular | Followup to Cheffe1979: #01618809



what about this one?


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-01 07:51 [#01618813]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker



"Take your logic out of your crevice and realise that if you
keep
posting deliberately argumentative threads the moderators
are not going to just sit back and laugh.

This whole situation was born of people like you saying
illogical things, here we are trying to move on, and you go

and spout illogical logic like that. Nothing is a
surprise."

signed,


Attached picture

 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-06-01 07:53 [#01618814]
Points: 40066 Status: Lurker



youve seen my yellow one


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2005-06-01 07:54 [#01618815]
Points: 3840 Status: Lurker



i fucking HATE jedi chris... i hope he dies in his sleep
whilst being mutilated by the sith lord


 

offline Marshmelo from United Kingdom on 2005-06-01 07:57 [#01618819]
Points: 73 Status: Lurker | Followup to Quoth: #01618815



That's not very nice. Really. Is it?

I fucking hate a lot of people, but I don't wish them dead
at the hands of a decrepid old man in a cloak!


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2005-06-01 07:58 [#01618820]
Points: 6745 Status: Lurker | Followup to Quoth: #01618815



way to go showing how 'intelligent' you are..


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2005-06-01 07:58 [#01618821]
Points: 3840 Status: Lurker | Followup to Marshmelo: #01618819



you are just jealous i am not talking about your death... to
be honest i think it would be a quite honorable to be killed
by a sith


 

offline Marshmelo from United Kingdom on 2005-06-01 08:00 [#01618822]
Points: 73 Status: Lurker



It's more honorable to kill a Sith :-D


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2005-06-01 08:04 [#01618827]
Points: 3840 Status: Lurker | Followup to eXXailon: #01618820



wtf does my intelligence have to do with anything? i suppose
i'd understand your humor or your nonsense if i was
intelligent... but i am not

jedi chris and myself do not get along, so it's ok with me
that he is banned. since the beginning of my existance on
this messageboard, that guy has given me nothing but
arguments and signs to show me that he dislikes my lame
ass... enough of this reflection


 

offline Marshmelo from United Kingdom on 2005-06-01 08:06 [#01618835]
Points: 73 Status: Lurker | Followup to Quoth: #01618827



Look, he's gone, he's not coming back so lets just get over
it. You didn't like him, he didn't like you, now he's gone,
move on.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-01 08:15 [#01618852]
Points: 5079 Status: Lurker | Followup to Gwely Mernans: #01618784



Sorry to drag this thread up, but...

Altus is the last track off the Magnificent Void, and it's
fucking increadable.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-01 08:16 [#01618855]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker | Followup to CS2x: #01618852



ahhh, YES. GOD YES!!


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-01 08:19 [#01618857]
Points: 5079 Status: Lurker | Followup to Gwely Mernans: #01618855



Sorry for rattling on, it's just amazing to see someone else
with a passion for that music. And it's more then the
quality of the music anyway, because Robert Rich and Stebe
Roach and the whole lot of them share very similar
philosophies and the music reflects that, so there is a lot
to discuss really.



 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-06-01 08:38 [#01618879]
Points: 14294 Status: Lurker



No, I'm glad Jedi Chris is gone. He was a socially retarded
moron with nothing worth saying. Good riddance.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2005-06-01 08:45 [#01618886]
Points: 4286 Status: Lurker | Followup to mappatazee: #01618879



ssshhhhh! you're not allowed to say anything bad about the
hierarchy. sssssshhhhh! it's bad.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-06-01 08:47 [#01618888]
Points: 12878 Status: Addict



has this thread not been closed yet?

it's time to move on and stop the commentary on xlt
"politics". there are none. let's just discuss music and
loose our driving licences at the same time


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2005-06-01 08:48 [#01618891]
Points: 2953 Status: Regular | Followup to mappatazee: #01618879



what a stunningly elegant avator...I could watch it all day
long....w0wzers!

umm yeah goodbye Jedi Chris but why is there such a big deal
if he chose to ban himself?


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2005-06-01 09:00 [#01618914]
Points: 10000 Status: Addict



My threat to Bill Hicks was as a result of him
effectively
calling me a liar. ... For someone to
accuse me of doing so, especially on a matter that is so
factually black and white, is certainly worthy of a warning
of a temp. ban.


i'm sorry, but what has this got to do with moderating the
board?
to me this seems like a personal issue/fight between you and
him, in which you take advantage of your position as mod by
threatening to temp. ban him 'cause he calls you a
liar


i'm not planning on getting all mods on my back, but imo
this is just another example of how some mods solve their
personal matters with their 'powers' and just threaten and
ban the users they don't like


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2005-06-01 09:03 [#01618922]
Points: 10000 Status: Addict | Followup to Morton: #01618914



a followup to ceri jc that was


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-06-01 09:04 [#01618924]
Points: 5437 Status: Regular



don't you people come with an off button?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-01 09:12 [#01618938]
Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to Morton: #01618914 | Show recordbag



"i'm sorry, but what has this got to do with moderating
the
board?"


Bill Hicks initially made a request to ban a user on account
of it being a multiple account. I, as a moderator, declined,
giving my reasons. He persisted in his demands for this user
to be banned. Therein lies the link to the board/moderation,
as opposed to a 'personal fight'. On top of that, his
calling me a liar is suggesting I cannot be trusted (and
therefore ought not to be a moderator), again, a 'moderation
issue'.

Either:
a) You're can't make the distinction.
b) You didn't see all the original converstation and are now
jumping in, towards the end.
c) Both of the above.

Let me give you some examples of non-moderation arguments:
I say I like artist x, you slate them, we disagree about
it.
You say you like artist x, I slate them, we disagree about
it.

As above, but replace artist with: film title, videogame
title, particular release, particular track, particular mix
of a track, etc. you get the above.

Anything involving: users, banning people, closing topics,
the board itself, mods, the FAQ, etc. is a moderation issue.
Do you see the distinction?

If I were to ban someone because they disagreed with me that
Rob D - Clubbed To Death is the best piece of music ever
written, I could see your point. That's the sort of
behaviour you are alluding to (and I agree it would be
completely unreasonable and you'd be justified in
complaining about it) yet the case with Bill Hicks is
nothing of the sort.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-01 09:12 [#01618940]
Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to DeadEight: #01618924 | Show recordbag



LOL


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2005-06-01 09:58 [#01619021]
Points: 10000 Status: Addict



He persisted in his demands for this user to be
banned.


Ehm can you point out where he did that after you told him
you know both users in real life? As far as i can see he
only said things like: I QUESTION YOUR INTEGRITY ... I
think jedi_chris = marshmelo...
etc.

he didn't persist his demand for the user to be banned, he
only sais he questions your integrity, who sais those
remarks have anything to do with you being a moderator? you
are the only one making that link; i cannot be trusted
(andtherefore ought not to be a moderator)

i just see it as a personal 'attack' of him saying you cant
be trusted. ban and threaten for that if you like, but it
looks to me that you cant make the distinction (just
like other mods)

maybe this shows that i question the qualities of some mods,
that probably means i'll get banned


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2005-06-01 10:29 [#01619042]
Points: 10000 Status: Addict



liars can be good mods yo


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-06-01 16:14 [#01619347]
Points: 27325 Status: Lurker



I dont understand why thinking Marshmelo is Jedi should be
deemed in a negitive context by Ceri. I think its odd that
as soon as this fiasco occured that he started to post
defending Jedi.

No offense to any party here but so many people have had
multiples its really not that hard to understand that people
here think that every new account is a multiple.

Think of the post skyfarmer era. Everyone jumped on every
new account thinking it was him. Although a percentage of
them probably were there is another percentage that was
thinking " i just made a hello post and i got teh b7. wtf?"

Just because you say you know something doesnt mean we have
to believe it. We are individuals capable of making up our
own minds for that matter. Again no offense Ceri!

My friend was banned last year because during a IP check his
was similar to mine and we both had the same service. I
almost couldnt believe it. Obviously you are going to find
people that live close to each other that have the same
provider. So i know how it is from that aspect.

Ceri, I am not calling you a lair or anything. I respect how
you have handled yourself in this thread. I dont agree with
some of your views but that is what makes the world a great
place... differing opinions!


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2005-06-01 16:20 [#01619358]
Points: 10031 Status: Regular



BORING


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-06-01 16:31 [#01619381]
Points: 27325 Status: Lurker | Followup to i_x_ten: #01619358



Quiet you.

:p


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2005-06-01 16:32 [#01619383]
Points: 10031 Status: Regular | Followup to virginpusher: #01619381



well, all this nonsense seems to be in the past now, my only
worry is that it doesnt all kick off again, when everyone is
suddenly unbanned.


 


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