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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-29 14:51 [#01580623]
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It's a simple graphics trick that is used in most magazine adverts. Read the top line go diagonaly from corner to corner and then the bottom line. Try it, a good advert will lead your eyes over the page this way and you will absorb the essential information usually:
tag line/life style blurb picture content (which you absorb fastest) Purchace information/logo etc.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2005-04-29 14:59 [#01580632]
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where did you go to school? i'm actually just graduating as a graphic designer and i know quite a bit about it, but apparently i wasn't taught about the "z rule".
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2005-04-29 15:00 [#01580633]
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i mean it makes total sense, i've just never heard of it referred to as such.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-29 15:09 [#01580638]
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I did Fine Art BA at Liverpool John Moores University and History of Design MA at Royal Collage of Art
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-29 15:10 [#01580641]
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I learned more in the year after University than I did in the four years there. I expect you will be the same. The crap I didn't learn shocks me now.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2005-04-29 15:12 [#01580647]
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interesting. i've been working in an ad agency for a year now, and while i have learned many things about the business, not too many new design principles or concepts have surfaced. i'm sure they'll be on their way soon enough.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-04-29 18:13 [#01580767]
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THTATS TOTALLY AWESOME MIKE !!!
wheh i send you package of cds, ill be expecting to get that in the mail from you in about a weeks time :)
no seriously the painting is rad !
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-04-29 18:26 [#01580778]
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i really like it! i make recycle words mine. youre an fuckin artist. i didnt read everyone posts but i agree with them when they say this is a fuckin good painting.
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corrupted-girl
on 2005-04-29 19:12 [#01580803]
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1. i never said it was a bad painting, i just meant it doesn't show a lot of skill, which therefore makes it more conceptual.
2. there is a lot of conceptual art.
3. it's harder to really perfect your concept without skill of the media your working with. which therefore lessens the quality of your overall piece.
4. this ofcourse is becoming opinionated.. so i respect everyone's taste of the arts and this specific painting.
5. i generally prefer skill along with good concepts but i think a lot of people lack the skill to really make original and articulate concepts.
6. um.. yea. i don't wanna argue over art cause it's so diverse and personal.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-29 19:16 [#01580812]
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you don't need technical skill in abundance to make great art. that's a myth.
aren't we in a post-modern era? i'd say you're at least two eras behind. ;)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-29 19:17 [#01580815]
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I want to put on a dress with a sash that says "transgendered pride" and carry that painting in the gay parade this year.
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corrupted-girl
on 2005-04-29 19:21 [#01580820]
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excatly. now a days we dont need skill.. that's why there's so much crap-art out there and art can be 'anything' and yadda yadda.
but ofcourse, it's about taste.. but without skill the concepts generally suffer.
but yea, whatever floats ya boat.. you know..
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-29 19:46 [#01580854]
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maybe you should think more about that, actually. i'm not talking about taste or the art in this thread whatsoever. you do not need skill or even talent to make good or great art. it's just a different way of making art. to say that pop art isn't good art because it wasn't painted by a traditional master painter is a bit ignorant.
what about this, for example: suppose you have a piece of music that was a single note. this note was played by someone who had never before touched the instrument he played the note upon. but now let's say that that note was as beautiful as a full-scale classical orchestra playing some famous beautiful symphony. i personally would have a hard time taking into account the circumstances the piece was created under... otherwise you are ignoring the work of art in lieu of arbitrary boundaries you've set for yourself.
skill, time, talent, procedure, quantity, technique - these terms have no bearing on art that has been created. they may be interesting as a footnote, but as far as art goes, they are completely obsolete terms.
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corrupted-girl
on 2005-04-29 19:50 [#01580857]
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sure. there are exceptions.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-29 19:51 [#01580858]
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yeah, but all the new, innovative art that appeared in the last century are the "exceptions".
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uzim
on 2005-04-30 03:29 [#01581007]
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i like it : )
just one thing: i would never have interpreted the cut-off part of the worm as a head if it wasn't for the title of the picture and the explanation you gave.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-04-30 03:42 [#01581012]
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the painting doesnt suit my personal taste, but I do think it looks clean and nice and all, looks like you have done a good job!
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-04-30 03:59 [#01581015]
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I don't usually go for the cartoon/popart style but I think this is pretty good. What makes it so good is it's complete cleanless and perfectness.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2005-04-30 06:48 [#01581068]
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haha, that's awesome
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2005-04-30 06:51 [#01581070]
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^supposed to be a follow up to fleetmouse's gay parade comment.
thanks for all the comments, everyone, and a special thanks to r40f and corrupted-girl for continuing their debate on the quality/skill of art, that is really subject to opinion.
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