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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-24 17:46 [#01760041]
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Yeah, I did the same, read up a little bit on it and saw vinyl mastering was quite different... hmmm.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2005-10-24 20:17 [#01760237]
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i would be mastering everything i have to cassette tape if i had a recorder out here. i love the lofi sound.
tape hiss rules.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-25 03:09 [#01760418]
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Reason 3's mastering stuff is better than previous reason vesions, but I agree it's still not a patch on a lot of VST mastering tools.
Process makes a good poiint: I'd also say mastering is what you do the final, single track, rendered .wav in something like wavelab. Mixing of the seperate channels needs to be learnt/done first and should be done in Reason is you want it quick and dirty. If you're a perfectonist, export each track seperately to a wav, then load all them into another proggy that supports vst and do your mixing there. Or, as someone mentioned, re-wire it into another program and do it that way.
A few basics:
Give each instrument/channel its own stereo space (panned to a slightly different place).
Ensure there's not too much overlap between channels at any given frequency. If you up the EQing for say your bass at a given frequency, drop it by the same amount for any other instrument at the same place.
Cutting is better than boosting. This is particularly true of bass. Don't just boost the bass, cut other frequencies a bit. Also, even a bass will often contain a few high frequencies. Boosting those, rather than the bass, will give it a bit more presence, without it being overly loud and murky.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-10-25 03:22 [#01760427]
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I use Izotope Ozone3 for mastering, I simply love it. Here's a 980kb PDF guide to using it correctly : OzoneMasteringGuide.PDF
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-25 03:28 [#01760431]
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It's a definite improvement but the audio export still sucks massive cock.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-25 03:46 [#01760449]
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Ha ha, you think it's bad in 3, try using the one in Reason 1!
Seriously, it's like they gave the work experience boy that bit of code to do. You listen to it afterwards and it sounds so flat/robbed of detail that it's like it has been through a poor quality bandpass filter. I used it once, before taking to recording it "playing" in wavelab.
They've certainly improved it in the later versions, but it still sucks.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-25 03:48 [#01760453]
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Of course, monkeys like me never used to check the quality and still often forget, so I'd do something then export it, mp3 it and upload it. Quality sucks hard. I need to do more quality assurance :D
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-25 04:02 [#01760472]
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I only really bother exporting each track with demo cds. Most stuff just gets recorded as a single track then mastered in wavelab. Some "just for fun" tracks that I have no intention of even uploading, I use the built in audio export.
Decent exporter is up there with decent compressor on my Reason wishlist. Everyone reckons s/w compressors are crap, but that's just not true. It's just that so many of them are shite, people reckon they all are. If reason 4 had something as good a PSP's vintage warmer, it'd be mint.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-10-25 04:06 [#01760477]
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Never ever use compression for a purpose other than distorting your audio in strange and amusing ways.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-25 04:11 [#01760485]
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*unless you do dance music. Then overuse it, so the audio never ever drops below -2db, even during the "quiet bits" when that awful filter you're using on the drums is in full effect.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2005-10-25 11:19 [#01760770]
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Lets see if I get kicked out of school for printing the ozone manual ...
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