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yeah, I think he's a true musical genius (that's how I identify someone who has both great instinct, great ears, great understanding--everything). by the way, do you like brahms? lastly, don't you think melodies from mars have sweet counterpoint? |
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what do you think about how much time he spends on a particular song? personally i think he's in the top 5% of the people who want to get it exactly like they imagine it and are not concerned with amount of time they spend on one song. |
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alrighty- - "dael" on "tri repetae" - semi-hidden melodies in "tewe" on "chiastic slide" - "laughing quarter" on "envane" - "arch carrier" on "lp5" - "parhelic triangle" on "confield" - "eidetic casein" on "confield" - "tapr" on "draft 7.30" - "p.:ntil" on "draft 7.30" probably forgetting a few. |
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oh and jeroen made the vordhosbn comment as well, though he only heard it for the last part. the first time I heard xmd5a I thought the piano was from drukqs-father, but it's not even close =( oops |
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i must agree on parhelic triangle! |
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which is btw also my fav autechre song :) |
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hmm hmm hmm, ok. Not listening to them much these days so unfortunately the first thing which springs to my mind is I'll never forgive them for having the synthesized strings in arch carrier not at the same tuning as the rest!! It's a microtone off, and it really pisses my ears off. arch carrier, do you mean the string melody or the opening? the start shit is pretty simplistic. I agree that it's pretty satisfying though. I wouldn't say unconventional. I used to *love* the hidden melody in pen expers. and yes, I also think the dael melody/thing is *incredible* I mainly state that aphex's are superior because of all the weird micro-management in them: all sorts of changing rhythms (autechre usually has verry simple rhythms in melodies? as I've said on here I haven't listened to them much lately, but am getting back into it again), weird timbre changing, pitches all over the place (rather than slow unfolding).. I'm not saying that means good, I'm just trying to assess technical ability. |
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I really don't care about technical ability, probably also because I have absolutely NO knowledge about musical theory. to me it matters how it sounds, if it gets to me, if you will. |
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that said, I do care a lot about structuring, I think. |
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ok, sorry, I understand. It's just that if I'm trying to 'prove' something, I can only go off of some sort of analyzed semi-fact, which is why I avoid feelings. Sorry again, as you can see, I fucking love debate. |
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not to mention those two analord songs have so much variety in them as a whole autechre album. it constantly keeps changing and all sorts of cool stuff is coming in although it's so masterfully put together you don't get confused or something. while autechre just never put more than one melody and drum patern in a song. |
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I havent really given brahms much of a listen. Recommend me some and ill give it a go. I mainly listen to beethoven (typically), bach, vivaldi, tchaikovsky, Pachelbel (I only know Canon), and a bit of philip glass, but I have plenty of other stuff. I have to say the counterpoint in melodies from mars (although I only listen to a few tracks... I like track 9... I dont have the names for them) are pretty sweet, a lot easier to listen to than Analord, which has interesting counterpoint (I'm not sure if I am using counterpoint grammatically correct, I only discovered what it was a bit over a month ago). It took me quite a few listens to actually get used to. But once your used to it, I think you just fall in love with it. I know you love xmd5a, particularly from when you described how he switches from the piano to the arpeggios. I think its the only time I've heard him use an arpeggiator. I think I just love his acidy tune that comes in before then, sounds so sweet. |
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Why is 'Analord' taken from a Luke Vibert track title? |
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yeah, aphex doesn't care about album-spanning structure like autechre; he just seems to get a collection of tracks and sort of fit them in the best place. |
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weeelllll that's not a fair comparison; I've never seen anyone have half the variety of aphex. I mean, holy fucking shit his styles are all over the place. |
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why? |
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Aphex really has a short attention span, I think he has a major problem with repetetiveness. As a result, he'd probably hate my music... I dont invest enough time in any of my songs... usually cos I run out of ideas. |
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is it? didn't know that. is Aphex dissing Vibert's obsession with analysis? |
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counterpoint is basically having many lines at ones (actively--not filling in eachothers siliences only) and the harmony still works; don't worry you know what you're talking about =) yeah xmd5a is insane, holy god. I'm going to bring up something I've said 10x because no one has reacted to it--the shit he does in the first minute of xmd5a to make you think the bar lines are somewhere where they aren't, usually when a new voice gets added. holy fuck. as for brahms... I recommend both piano concertos, the piano trios.. the first and third symphonies, the fourth if you want something really REALLY personal (as in, personal to him--super brahms centric, might be a little annoying at first listen).. the violin concerto.. |
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Because he seems to steal alot from Vibert. |
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Yes, why? |
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while autechre just never put more than one melody and drum patern in a song." that's certainly not true. |
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so much talk about going the "experimental route".... as far as I'm concerned, Aphex Twin IS experimental, though I think listening to his music (and other electronica) a lot makes one forget. It's cheesy [read: shit] pop music like what you hear on most radio programming that can't afford to go the experimental route, at least not without bewildering the masses. |
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yeah I love his short attention span. I have ADHD or whatever, so I get really pissed off when music repeats.. this is sweet I was just emailing jeroen about this =) |
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i was hoping you knew the answer :) |
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oh shit I have to keep typing in italics now. |
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hmmmmmmmmmm really? Only vibert I've heard is 'i love acid'. |
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you'd like the Aeon Flux soundtrack by Drew Neumann, then. maybe. it constantly changes. |
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hey wouldn't be awesome if the italicization directive was cummulative, meaning doing it over and over would slant things more and more... you could get purely horizontal text, or upside down? that would fucking rule. |
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I'm sure there's some hidden, underlying, spontaneous diviness to it but it still makes me wonder.. |
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dude I will go log in to slsk and find it now, thank you |
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No, just wondered really. |
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yes, they change a tempo or make a break in beat programming in every 10 minutes, i just exaggerated to make it look better. |
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maybe he fancied the name? |
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It is probably just coincidence but Richards releases of a certain style always seem to be about a year after Lukes releases in a similar style. |
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but for some reason aphex's releases are always remembered for a longer period of time. hmm |
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ok thanks for pointing that out. I'll try to look into that some day. most inteerressting |
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Because Aphex is the better musician, that's plain to see...but being the best doesn't make you the originator. |
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this thread was awesome, I have to go jerk off now. |
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"yeah xmd5a is insane, holy god. I'm going to bring up something I've said 10x because no one has reacted to it--the shit he does in the first minute of xmd5a to make you think the bar lines are somewhere where they aren't, usually when a new voice gets added." here, i thought i'd react...this is what he's best in imo, doing this kind of stuff - it sounded kinda weird at first, but it got so good after a couple of listens that it literally made my eyes wet :) here's another fact. i've been listening to these two tracks for about 10 hours straight last night and im doing the same today- 13 hours but i had a 4 hour break inbetween. im sure i'll do the same tomorrow :) |
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yeah, the start of xmd5a really just fools your ears quite a bit. Yeah, I know what counterpoint is, but I'm just unsure of how to use it in a sentence, lol. The book I'm reading at the moment, Godel Escher Bach, I imagine you would probably like, as you seem quite nerdy. Have a look at the amazon reviews of it. It combines the music of Bach, Godel's maths, and Escher's art to describe a theory of how one acquires a self. But... its just got a hell of a lot of stuff about everything in it. It's made me study classical quite a bit more. Do you compose any electronic music? |
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excellent! can't wait for dog belch to come back - if you thought this thread was awesome you're going to get an heart attack then. |
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ahhaahahahahaha yeah I listened to them for about two hours yesterday, then today forced myself to take a break and then listened to them again a couple times today. HEY QRTER hahaha it ends up after I jumped around my massive playlist to listen to those autechre tracks, I left it on chiastic slade (which I hit last) and am still listening to the damned thing, very enjoyable.. hahahaha *eats shoe* |
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I saw his name in the list briefly yesterday! What's he up to? or.. does he hate us now? =( Chihiro is a fine addition. |
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must be he's jerking off to analord. not sure really :) chihiro is ace! |
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no I don't write electronica.. I've written some classical! I'm a computer programmer (specializing in artificial intelligence and programming languages) and sometime in the next 5 years I will send richard a demo tape which is generated using a synthesis program I will write. I figured out the basic algorithm two days ago!! I'm mad stoked. I *actually* have GEB on my shelf, haven't opened it =( . These days I only read science fiction and technical manuals; I have a hard time trying to get started on other books, be they literature or the GEB style of intellectual discourse. I DO plan on reading it in the next few years some time--thanks for the suggestion. |
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hahahahha I wonder what he thinks of analord, actually! |
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after all the threads about analord this thread got 95 replies in just over an hour - not to mention it's 5am here in europe..i really have the greatest respect for everyone who posted here!!! you gotta love xltronic!!!!! |
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can't see why he wouldn't like it :) |
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this is the most enjoyable/intresting thread i've read in ages |
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