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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:18 [#01322027]
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Map,
Ok.... here we go. ::deep breath::
a) there is a "huge" difference between an enclosed cabin (such as a car) and an open atmosphere....even if you roll down yer windows in yer car, you are still in a small, enclosed cabin with the windows making the cabin of your car act like a 4th order bandpass enclosure, but that's tangent.
b) Threshold of pain is NOT 130dB for all frequencies in the band (dependent upon the human).
Yes, you can say 140dBs is essentially a "jet engine", but again that is in the open environment where physics play A WEE BIT DIFFERENT ROLE.
c) "it wouldn't sound any louder"
I'm sorry? +3dB is equivilant to double the energy, but closer in this atmosphere that +10dB is "twice as loud" to the human ear.
Sound is pressure....145dB is way louder than 130dB, at any freq range...but we are talking subsonic or anything below 60Hz (mid to low range bass, in this case of example of car audio).
Ok,
No, my car isn't louder than a front row of a rock conert.
I have many waves (and back waves :) ) being concentrated (designed) on a single point (mic placement) to maximize energy transfer.
Now,
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-09-02 16:18 [#01322029]
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shut the fuck up
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:20 [#01322032]
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the space shuttle for example, can easily generate "pressure" at a low freq. up to 180dbs....IN ATMOPSHERE.
Why do they spray water on the launch pads?
Umm, partly to drawn out low wavelengths so they don't literally rumble apart and destroy the launch pad.
You simple cannot compare a car's cabin to outside atmosphere.
130dB isn't really that loud in the freq range we are talking about
. 140-145dB is certainly very loud, and 150dB burps without hearing protection is basically PAINFUL.
But hey, I know plenty of people with vehicles that do 170+dBs, and boy .... you want to talk about a weird feeling :)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:20 [#01322033]
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Ahh, sorry map.
:'(
Shouldn't have mad your comment then.
Or I take that back, should have made your comment into more of a Question.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:22 [#01322034]
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as for my first sentence, which was taking WAY too wrong
" listen to loud music quite often (bass wise, upwards of
130-145+ dBs in my car).
130dBs for a beat is certainly not "over-doing it" by any means.....not for anyone ive ever met !!!
145dbs was a max for every now and then to raelly test out the system dynamics.
I don't drive at 140+dBs all the time, that's stupid. But you guys already cleared that up....didn't you (that it isstupid)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:24 [#01322036]
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and btw, while were on the topic, bass is an experience.
low bass (sub 30hz) is mindblowing.
sub 20hz is ... well, orgasmic.
Gwely Mernans, anyone?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 16:24 [#01322037]
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-09-02 16:25 [#01322040]
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"But so-called primary spontaneous pneumothorax happens in the absence of an underlying disease, typically striking tall, thin, male smokers."
maybe that explains those short bursts of pain i get where i can't really inhale too deeply or it hurts like a mother....
usually goes away after a minute or so.... it's prolly more attributed to my smoking habits than my music (it's usually not that loud, and on headphones, nonetheless)......
cool article
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:34 [#01322050]
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Yeah I don't smoke.
believe you-me, when it first happened to me I didnt know what was going on.
they kept telling me it's a common procedure, happens all the time, then they cut me open, shoved a chest tube (about as thick as my thumb) into me a good 10-12" and i was on an air pump for a few days.
but boy, lots of cute nurses :)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:34 [#01322051]
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Zigg, i'd def keep an eye on it.
You could, i guess, have a small one and not even know it.
My 2nd was small enuff not to get a chest tube.
I stayed in the hospital on the oxygen pumps for a wihle and thankfully it got smaler the next day (if it would have got bigger, time for another chest tube)
fuktalk about sick lookin' :)
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k_maty
on 2004-09-02 17:22 [#01322098]
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shouldn't you be working?
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wimp
on 2004-09-02 17:52 [#01322121]
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My friend has had his lungs collapse three times. First his left lung, then his right, then his left again, all within the span of three years. His left lung is now held open by connected scar tissue. He didn't listen to loud music or smoke; he was tall and thin and grew to be taller and thinner too quickly.
This is a true story. He grew up to be the second from the right (the one who doesn't fit in):
Mike Stone!
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-09-02 18:02 [#01322140]
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spoddy bastard elitist twat. do you enjoy alienating other people with your bullshit? what a wanker
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 18:02 [#01322141]
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I would've said the bloke that's slap-bang in the middle didn't fit in.
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wimp
on 2004-09-02 18:05 [#01322145]
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You can see him in this video, when he came over with Bryan and we all played Super Mario Kart.
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wimp
on 2004-09-02 18:06 [#01322149]
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That's persons right in the middle is my older brother. He's a goof but I love him.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 18:20 [#01322178]
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Sorry. I liked the music in the video.
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wimp
on 2004-09-02 18:24 [#01322187]
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Yeah, same here. It's by The Books.
The music in this better video is by Kim Hiorthoy.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 18:29 [#01322197]
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Who are these Thrusting Browns then?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 18:35 [#01322208]
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Wimp,
yeah, and once you get it the first time, you have a high ass % of getting it again.....no doubt.
There is surgury too, where they cut you open and put this paste (...bear with me) on your lung.
I almost went into surgury last time (2nd time in same lung usually means gos str8 to surgury, do not pass go, $200...etc) but thank god the hole was small and healed up on it's own.
Fuck, I don't want surgury. Actually I don't mind stuff like that, i just dont want the cathider (spell) tube up my neenur hole. : (
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wimp
on 2004-09-02 18:36 [#01322210]
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A neglected project (as of late) that my roommate and I created to preoccupy our (at the time) jobless student lives.
We made wacky videos and will hopefully continue to do so this semester:
ThrustingBrowns.com
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-09-02 18:38 [#01322216]
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 18:39 [#01322218]
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here is a pic of my xray
that thing was LONG AS FUCK... when they pulled it out if felt like he just stole my soul or something, it was a weird feeling... i felt so empty inside
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 18:40 [#01322219]
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wimp is totally thread hijacking
>_>
<_<
^_^
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 18:43 [#01322227]
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And you should fucking thank him for diverting people's attention away from your morbid self absorption.
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wimp
on 2004-09-02 18:44 [#01322231]
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Elusive: You caught me...
But yeah, Mike has all kinds of scars all over his chest. The last collapse was the scariest, and they had to ram a tube into his upper sternum. He told me how they had anesthetised him, but he could still feel his bones cracking and the warmth as his blood started spurting out. Does not sound pleasant. So anything you could do to avoid said procedures I would highly recommend (i.e. if loud music does induce lungs to collapse, turn it down!).
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 18:50 [#01322242]
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Wimp, here's what happened to me, and I know exactely how he feels.
1st time.
Hot ass blonde (at a hospital where there were tons of interns and ladies who work there part time and go to college there)
she was an M.D. but there was an older guy there showing her cause apparently she never performed it b4 , wtf?
So I'm lookin the whole time, they put in one about as thick of a pencil. slice me open a bit, find the 3rd rib down, ahh there it is...push hard, cut me open, start feeding the tube into my chest. Couldn't really feel is too much because of the guage size.
Next morning, they took me off the air pump and waited some times. More and more xrays, nope, the hole didn't heal with the small tube, sotime to break out the big, bad boy.
Ok, so back to the ER ?
Nope, the doc says, we can do this right in the bed.
Uhh ok, cool ... So i'm looking down to watch him do it, because that kinda stuff doesn't really bother me and im curious
::smacks head::
so he says theres no way i can watch this, im like ... ok.
So he breaks out the anesthetics and this foot long needle. Thing was huge. So he gives me a lil poke, sprays it around, then pushes it in further, i feel it coming out, and even FURTHER, pushing on my chest masaging it in....
Ok, so then he pushes it the whole fuggin way in and im like, durrrr this is feeling kinda funny.
So then, he tells me nope I can't watch, and the nurse forces my head to the other way...
I feel him cutting me open (prolly 2"or so) then he starts sliding the tube in.
Oh my god what the fuck.
He had to push it (force it) past all the cartilage etc to get to the lung. He's just pushing it in hard as fuck, forcing it in there.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 18:53 [#01322244]
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So yes, tons of blood rushing out, and he sews me up with this string like material.
So there I am, big ass fucking tube sticking out of my chest, and i've never felt any kind of feeling like what I just went through.
Fuck. The worst part was my whole side was covered in tape beacuse the tube couldn't move at all so they taped me up way too much (but of course they had to).
Doctor spent about 2 hours ripping that tape off when it came time a few days later. That hurt more than anything and I was sore just frm the tape for weeks.
When he pulled the tube out, I can't describe it. The feeling of this tube being pulled out of you and feeling it on your inside, moving around by your lung and coming out, it's like he just stole my soul. He pulled it al the way out (look at the xray, it's in there well over a foot 1/2) and i just felt like i died.
just layed back and felt so empty. I don't know why it produced that feeling but i felt so empty inside ..... I get the feeling just tihnking about it, eh.
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-09-02 18:55 [#01322249]
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i didnt read it either
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 18:55 [#01322250]
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You guys need to stop bumping my threads then. Yer obsessed with me.
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-09-02 18:59 [#01322261]
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no im not, im fucking bored shitless of you. in fact if you want to impress me, never post here again.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 19:01 [#01322268]
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Seeya in the depression thread!
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-03 00:42 [#01322548]
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do you think its cool post 4 posts filled to the brim with wankery?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-03 05:49 [#01322651]
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yer cooler, IRL...seriously.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-03 06:28 [#01322674]
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lol etc etc
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