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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 13:26 [#01321774]
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I listen to loud music quite often (bass wise, upwards of 130-145+ dBs in my car).
My buddies forwarded me this link today, very interesting.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=571&e=5&u...
I've had my lung collapse twice now, over the past year and a 1/2. Pneumothoraxs are a fucking BITCH, and that chest tube hurts like nothing I've ever felt before.
Not to mention the fact I could hardly breath.....
Wow, very interesting article..... : /
Time to sell the subwoofers.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-02 13:27 [#01321777]
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it rocks when music is so good that it actually kills you
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-02 13:28 [#01321778]
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130-145db bass?
wasnt >120 @ 1kHz supposed to damage hearing? i dont imagine that being good for you. ooooooooooh wait it isnt!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 13:28 [#01321779]
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I hope all the twats that go round in their cars with the bass a-thumpin, upsetting old people, pets and children, end up dying, blue in the face, trying to breathe through a fucking straw.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-09-02 13:28 [#01321780]
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bass is overrated
i hate it when someone gets a hi-fi and wacks all the bass high up
whats the point?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-02 13:31 [#01321782]
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extention of the male reproduction organ
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-02 13:33 [#01321783]
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t's probably a good idea, according to Noppen, to stand back from the speakers at concerts and clubs and to ease up on that car-stereo bass. It might also save your hearing, he added.
people are stupid
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-09-02 13:33 [#01321784]
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145db is fucking stupid for constant listening. You can't even properly hear music at that level.
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idle interloper
on 2004-09-02 13:34 [#01321785]
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Is lung collapse caused by frequencies lower/louder than that of the theoretical brown-tone?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-02 13:34 [#01321786]
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its probably 30 or 40 dB higher than the actual level anyway
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-02 13:35 [#01321787]
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caused by resonation of the body. whats a brown tone?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 13:35 [#01321788]
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Isn't that what they used to call Arse-Quake music?
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idle interloper
on 2004-09-02 13:36 [#01321790]
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Tell that to most of the newfangled music performers.
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idle interloper
on 2004-09-02 13:37 [#01321792]
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Uh.. that was directed to the "145db is fucking stupid for constant listening. You can't even properly hear music at that level." comment.
Damn reply feature not working on Macs..
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 13:37 [#01321793]
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Sigh, thanks for the support dog_belch.
Pfft.
You and your generalizations....I don't go blasting my music with windows down at night.
Usually if the windows are down and im playing it loud, it's on a back road.
Chill the fuk out....Sheesh!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 13:38 [#01321794]
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JAroen,
"wasnt >120 @ 1kHz"
Big difference between 1KHz and 30Hz.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-09-02 13:39 [#01321795]
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works fine on mine
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idle interloper
on 2004-09-02 13:39 [#01321796]
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JAroen - A brown note/tone is a theoretically possible sound which would cause one's bowels to resonate at that particular frequency...
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 13:39 [#01321797]
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It's your fault, I can't help it if you're going to die because you're a twat, now can I?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 13:40 [#01321798]
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Idle Interloper,
Spontaneous Pneumothroax (which is what I've had 2 of now) is where (in laymans terms) .. basically you get a hole in your lung and it seeps out air (pressure mismatch) between the inside of your lung and the air in your chest cavity.
You want to talk about being scared : /
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 13:41 [#01321799]
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And guys,
135dBs at 25Hz is NOT the same (even remotely) as 135dBs at 45-55Hz.
Wish you could understand this ..... sigh, ignorance.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 13:43 [#01321800]
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Every object has a resonate freq. 12Hz-ish at 110dBs should give yer internals some .... odd feelings
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 13:43 [#01321801]
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Ignorance, you're the only one keep going into hospital because of listening to music too loudly. That's being ignorant.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 13:45 [#01321804]
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This article isn't saying that loud bass will cause your lungs to collapse.
Guys, comon.
I just thought it was odd.
You know, I expect bass could easily be a catalyst to a pneumothorax.
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idle interloper
on 2004-09-02 13:47 [#01321806]
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elusive
I'm not talking about being scared, but that doesn't at all sound pleasurable.
Maybe just try listening music of a comparable volume on headphones, that way you will only puncture your eardrums and air can seep our of your head instead. Seems like viable alternative since we can all continue to live after becoming deaf, but as we all know, a lung is a bit more crucial. But I suppose it is illegal to listen to headphones while driving.
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idle interloper
on 2004-09-02 13:48 [#01321807]
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Crud. That should have read "...try listening to music..."
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 13:49 [#01321808]
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Dog, the article doesn't say loud music is directely proportional to a spontaneous pneumothorax.
Trust me, I've been through it. It's a condition and something you are born with (little cist-like things, blisters on your lung) and when you get to yer early 20s or late teens, they start to pop.
Sometimes they will pop and leave a tear.
So go re-read the article. They are just saying that it is possible that pressure from sound waves can cause this.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-09-02 13:50 [#01321809]
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I ain't judgin, yo. Just saying that if i listened to music at that level, i don't think i'd even enjoy it, not permitting health problems. I already get a high-pitched whine from listening to headphones too loud when i'm drunked, i don't want bass-related lung collapse. Hyper-loud is only good for gigs.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 13:52 [#01321810]
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"the article doesn't say loud music is directely proportional to a spontaneous pneumothorax..... They are just saying that it is possible that pressure from sound waves can cause this."
You know, I think you're the most confused person I've ever had the misfortune to read.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 13:52 [#01321811]
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Well not constantly, but I'm saying..... of course :p
I've reached those levels in my car.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-02 13:58 [#01321814]
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hey, assface, dont think you are the only one who finished primary school here. whyd you think i made that remark uh?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 14:00 [#01321815]
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Which remark?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 14:02 [#01321817]
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If it's the "1Khz" remark, then why did you say
"i dont imagine that being good for you. ooooooooooh wait it isnt! "
Sorry, After you said the above quote I thought you were being serious.
: /
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 14:03 [#01321818]
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BTW spon pneumo's are actually pretty common. (Yeah, I didn't quite think it was "COMMON" the first time it happened to me, yeah Right!) but my moms a nurse and relatives are doctors so, i take their advice.... :/
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 14:05 [#01321819]
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Explain your last comment, dog_belch.
4 "sound related" cases out of, what, tens of thousands of cases a year?
Ummm, ok? Sheesh, so offensive on something I'm sure most of you haven't even heard of until this thread.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-02 14:05 [#01321820]
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JAroen, "wasnt >120 @ 1kHz" Big difference between 1KHz and 30Hz.
long live the follow up feature
and, its this that really gets on my tits
And guys, 135dBs at 25Hz is NOT the same (even remotely) as 135dBs at 45-55Hz. Wish you could understand this ..... sigh, ignorance.
its your fucking attitude man.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-02 14:07 [#01321823]
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and? if the intensity at the 200-2KHz level is only a factor 10^-4 of the deep bass level its still moronic, and i couldnt care less if your liver launches itself out of your ass the next time you blast music.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-02 14:07 [#01321824]
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elusive, you're definately one of the more argumentative people i've come across in my web travels.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 14:09 [#01321829]
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Monkey see, monkey do.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 14:14 [#01321836]
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Sorry guys, im stressed the fuk out at work right now.
apologiez
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-02 14:17 [#01321841]
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if you know you have a health problem, and there is 10 to 100 watt/m² directed at your internal organs, why continue to take risks? youd have to be a tard to keep going and then whine about it here
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-02 14:19 [#01321843]
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didnt see that when i was typing [#01321841]
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-02 14:19 [#01321844]
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i ain't mad atcha
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 14:24 [#01321860]
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:)
JAor3n ...
There hasn't been any scientific knowledge about bass/sound and my condition until this article.
And even then, it's only 4 people out of the many times it happens a year.
It just came out TODAY, but I defintely will keep it in the back of my head when driving now.
But thanks :)
work is hell today, sorry again.....
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 14:45 [#01321899]
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I read this a couple of days ago on the bbc website so it didn't, actually, come out today. I didn't bother to mention it because I knew laughing boy here would do it himself. I couldn't have anticipated however that the smugphace would have been a victim of it. Perhaps there is a god after all.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-09-02 15:48 [#01321986]
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130-145 Db? No you don't
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:05 [#01322008]
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No I don't, what?
Certified, 150dBs with 1, 12" driver.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:06 [#01322010]
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Dog, I'm only here to please you.
I hope you get off on internet activity.
I can only imagine how empty real life must be for you.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-09-02 16:07 [#01322012]
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the threshold of pain is 130db. Why would you turn it up to 145db? it wouldn't sound any louder.
The front row of a rock concert is about 120db, so your car contains the amount of sound 10 times louder than the front row of a rock concert? K.
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big
from lsg on 2004-09-02 16:08 [#01322015]
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yeah, sux man, stupid human condition
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