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offline Erronous from Netherlands, The on 2004-06-02 13:29 [#01219845]
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that looks like non-sense. it sounds more like you make up a
story to get attention, how can you 'spouting your mouth
off
' when you're typing? This is a forum, ofcourse you
know what you're typing. you're not stupid, are you?

stupid.


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 13:34 [#01219860]
Points: 734 Status: Regular



I spouted my mouth off in the literal sense, remember I've
not been using forums for that long and this happened a long
time ago, I'm not making it up to get attention, otherwise
my topic would have been "hey Autechre suck!" or something,
I'm just wanting suggestions for music, which I'm very
greatfull for

thanx to all who posted suggestions

anyway I've gotta go but I'll be back


 

offline uzim on 2004-06-02 14:02 [#01219900]
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"i also recommend:
The Young Gods - Music For Artifical Clouds
The Young Gods - Heaven Deconstruction"

> I used to be into these in my industrial days, saw them
years ago, have they started doing more atmosperic stuff
then?, I remember it being samples of old Motorhead
riffs.


>> yes, their latest album (Music For Artificial Clouds) is
definitely very different from anything else they did
before... it is ambient/atmospheric =)

they already did a few ambient tracks, at the end of Only
Heaven and Second Nature (two great albums by the way, who
both are also very very different from their early stuff
like L'Eau Rouge...), but this is different too...


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-06-02 14:04 [#01219903]
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I think they pinched Soundguy's music, called it incunabula,
and then that's why none of their releases after that have
been any good, because they're a sham built on theivery and
lies. All bow down to the original Mr Autechre!!!


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-02 14:28 [#01219931]
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lol...


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-02 14:29 [#01219935]
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btw there are some really close friends to autechre in this
forum



 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-02 14:34 [#01219940]
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every forum is only allowed to have 1 autechre hater, i
suggest you leave before you get banned


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-02 14:41 [#01219945]
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a few suggestions:

Denzel and Huhn- Time is a Good Thing
Jan Jelinek- La Nouvelle Pauvrete
Dub Tractor- More or Less Mono
Jason Forrest-the Unrelenting Songs of the 1979 Post-Disco
Crash
Joseph Suchy, Franz Hautzinger, and Ekkehard Ehlers-
Soundchambers


 

offline uzim on 2004-06-02 14:53 [#01219964]
Points: 17716 Status: Lurker



earthleakage > how can you criticize, you don't even know
what happened to him... : |

(yeah, i know you were probably kidding : ))


 

offline happy cycling from berlin on 2004-06-02 15:02 [#01219970]
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check out chris clark's latest, empty the bones of you. i'm
not as big a fan as tolstoyed, who thinks it's the best
album ever, but i think it's a pretty solid release.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-02 15:07 [#01219972]
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it was a joke!


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 15:16 [#01219974]
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I just listened to empty the bones of you (I hadn't for a
while because I heard bad things)

It's better than ceramics is the bomb. It's currently in
high rotation (most listened to at the moment.)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-02 15:18 [#01219975]
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autechre and chris clark in the same topic!!

*puts in favourites*


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2004-06-02 15:37 [#01219998]
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Hi welkom to the MB, have I already told you that I'm gay?
Well I'm not.


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 18:06 [#01220261]
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OK I'm back

seems like I'm not as out of touch as I thought, I love
lists so I've taken the liberty to list all the stuff that
you guys listed that I have already, here goes.

Arovane - Tides
Woob-1194
FSOL-Lifeforms
Polygon Window-SOSW
Orbital-Insides
Uziq-Tango n Vectif
Vladislav Delay- Multilia
Herrmann und Kleine- Our Sound
astrobotnia - part 1
plug - drum 'n bass for papa
chris clark - empty the bones of you
ulrich shnauss - far away trains passing by
sk/um - í águ fallsins

Ooooh! that felt good, great taste people BTW

and I'll be sure to check out everything that I didn't have,
I just want some nice toons for the Summer

Oh and on the Chris Clark topic, "Clarence Park" was one of
my favourite records of that year but his new stuff leaves
me a bit cold, I dunno, great sounds but a little short on
tunes to these ears, though I love "Farewell Track" and "Gob
Coitus".


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 18:08 [#01220265]
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Oh and one of Chris Clarks drinking mates works at the same
place I do trivia fans.


 

offline eichel on 2004-06-02 20:02 [#01220374]
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some more:

obliq records (especially crix madine&multicast!)
global goon
o9 - new lp on schematic
carl craig - more songs about food & revolutionary art
(still good)
solvent - solvently one listens & lp on morr music

more trivia:
howie from take that shops records in the store i worked at
- cause his girlfriend lives here! anybody an autograph?


 

offline eichel on 2004-06-02 20:09 [#01220375]
Points: 4 Status: Regular



oh, and

markant
black dog
b12
slag boom van loon lp
morphogenetic fields
emotional joystick



 

offline eichel on 2004-06-02 20:10 [#01220376]
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...and autechre sucks...


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 20:34 [#01220378]
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wow! in a world seemingly consisting of Autechre fans I have
finally found some solace XD

BTW I told one of your guys Mappatazee what happened with
them privately by e-mail earlier, he's sworn to secrecy but
hopefully he will kind of defend me on as to why I can't
really talk about it on chat forums.
(even though that's exactly what I'm doing, it's the
Autechre curse, you people were the first to mention them
though, it's unavoidable)

Anyway gotta go but before I do I'd just like to mention a
CD I bought the other day by Manual called The North Shore,
imagine Ulrich Schnauss 's mixing desk with all the faders
down but the pads and strings and your pretty close.
A Nice blissed out album for the Summer.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-06-02 20:34 [#01220379]
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how about brothomstates - claro?

heard anything by casino versus japan?

you seem to have heard a good amount of music to be asking
for non-specific recommendation.

oh, and welcome to the board. :)


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 20:39 [#01220383]
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Heh, yeah man. It's a fucked up world.


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 20:46 [#01220385]
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Yeah I love Claro and Casino, well the thing is I have heard
a lot of music, I've been buying records for 17 years but
short of listing my entire collection, which would be
ridiculous, I just thought it better to list a few albums
that I really, really love (and the ones I mentioned truly
are my favourites, forgot to add Peter Benisch-waiting for
Snow though)
and a couple of bands likewise.
I did kind of indicate the sort of style I like
(melody,atmosphere etc) as well so hopefully it wasn't too
vague.

It's just that no matter how much music I get there's always
more to be discovered which is one of the reasons I
registered here.

and so far I'm a bit overwhelmed, I'm gonna be busy ordering
records that's for sure.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-06-02 21:15 [#01220392]
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well um there is always amateur stuff. try aud-stim

pretty much everyone that has a release there posts here.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-02 21:38 [#01220400]
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I reckon it's time to move past melody in the conventional
sense.


 

offline aphexchrist from philly (United States) on 2004-06-02 21:44 [#01220404]
Points: 239 Status: Lurker



check michael andrews, he is the guy who did the score for
the donnie darko soundtrack I alot of great sounding stuff

very ambient at times


 

offline aphexchrist from philly (United States) on 2004-06-02 21:45 [#01220405]
Points: 239 Status: Lurker



*THERE IS


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-03 06:50 [#01220855]
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I reckon it's time to move past melody in the
conventional
sense.


that's not really a new concept, people have been saying
that for ages and in the grand scheme of things melody is a
relativly new thing, the first ever music didn't have
melody.

I've studied my John Cage etc and can understand the whole
non-melody thing but I've been listening to music for too
long to to know that for one I love melody and for two any
music that deliberatly avoids it for "innovations" sake is
doing itself a great disservice.



 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-06-03 06:53 [#01220859]
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Another one.
lets fight!


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-06-03 06:56 [#01220865]
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hahahahaha he duz not like orrtechah coz they hit him.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-06-03 06:58 [#01220869]
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kinda like how pomme don't like SP


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-06-03 07:01 [#01220874]
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:) rr


 

offline eichel on 2004-06-03 07:44 [#01220905]
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nah, don´t wanna fight. it´s not really that i hate
autechre but they leave me absolutely cold. it´s like
modern architecture, nice to watch but i prefer me a dirty
ruin :)


 

offline KainiIndustries from over the roof floats billy on 2004-06-03 07:52 [#01220913]
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Chiastic Slide sounds like a ruin to me


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-03 08:36 [#01220955]
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Well I've got my own reasons for not being a fan but I did
have to sit and suffer one of their DVD singles which seemed
to consist of nothing but flanged delayed percussion sounds
and little else, like someone messing around with the GRM
tools plug ins but forgetting to write any actual music.


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-03 08:42 [#01220960]
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modern architecture is the best!!!!!!!!!!!


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-03 08:43 [#01220962]
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autechre are great. I love all of their music


 

offline SaintIll from Košice (Slovakia) on 2004-06-03 09:00 [#01220980]
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Sorry Soundguy for being so.....so...but why are you always
speaking, or writing about your own personal reasons when
you don´t want to tell us...I say ok...don´t tell us If
its so...you know...but why are you always writing about
them.. it is getting me crazy....a little bit..you
know..always writing about it but you didn´t say a word
what is it really about... thats all...np:Autechre-Anti


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-06-03 09:04 [#01220987]
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once again matvey - bjork.mp3. This is what is called [spam] in
this MB.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-03 09:09 [#01220991]
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I wasn't being serious actually. The concept of melody is
pretty vague anyway. Melody is present in every musical
structure. I guess complete randomness can't qualify as
music because the human brain likes to observe patterns etc.
I'm not sure how they are linked because I am completely
oblivious to musical theory and the structure of the central
neural system but certain algorithms of notes evoke certain
"emotions" etc etc. I prefer organised sonic chaos for
social reasons that go through a biochemical filter. The
later music of autechre is full of extremely exotic
rhythmical patters that make my brain intrigued by observing
the evolution of patterns and fullfill my wishes as a sound
lover with their dense sonic walls. What you wrote about
melody not being there is wrong. Unless you have a specific
definition of melody I'm not aware of. This whole topic has
been done to death and I should expect to have my ass kicked
in the near future by some forum members for reviving it.


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-03 10:07 [#01221086]
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I'm talking about melody in the sense of musical scales,
sure all music has rhythm, melody is rhythm, but when
distilled into scales it's different, remember the musical
scales as we know them are the product of centuries of
musical evolution and I find them beautiful because they
make sense, it's all about the ratio between different
frequencies, sure you can make your own scales, make your
own ratios and that's valid but I personally would sooner
listen to the evolved scales than the scales that some one
has probably knocked up in about two days by detuning their
syntheiser just so they can sound "post modern", it's just
me, music is a very subjective thing after all, and I
wouldn't say that all music has melody, Pansonic, Richie
Hawtin,Microsonic stuff etc is pure sound and rhythm to
these ears no real use of scales in any shape or form,
though Hawtin does occasionally use the odd 3 chord one of
course.

As far as the Autechre thing goes I did tell one guy last
night what happened in the hope that he would kind of defend
my reasons for not wanting to make it public, which he did
earlier if u read the threads.
The threads will also show that I was not the one to bring
Autechre up, they were brought up for me.
If this happens I have 3 options
1.Pretend I have never heard of them which would be stupid,
and would also increase the chance of someone playing me
their stuff, which I really don't want to happen.
2.Pretend I don't like the music and leave it at that, which
would again be stupid and a lie, especially because my own
tastes could be seen as consisiting of Autechre rip offs, in
truth I haven't heard much of their stuff since Incanabula
but it's harder too avoid than you think.
3.Be honest and say, hey guys it's not a problem with the
music it's just something that happened to me years ago.

I normally go for option 3 because I don't like to lie,
it's just too bad for me that I can't really go posting it
all over the net, if I get to know any of you I'll tell you
via e-mail but


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-03 10:08 [#01221087]
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damn they cut the end of my message off,

it said

not here, sorry


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-03 10:17 [#01221102]
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get an avatar


 

offline uzim on 2004-06-03 10:32 [#01221115]
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i get your point soundguy, but there are some people here,
like me, who care about who makes the music they
listen to -and not just the music itself. i would boycott
music made by a neo-nazi for example... or if the guys who
made the music were total assholes, i'd rather just download
it if i like it...

( well, sorry for being so insistant, i'll stop now! =) )


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-03 10:40 [#01221121]
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well they aren't neo nazis as far as I know, as for being
total assholes, well, in my situation you would probably
think they were but generally I think they are quite popular
guys so I don't think you have to worry about that.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-03 11:09 [#01221157]
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dude, the new pan sonic is sweet... and certain stuff beyond
the twelve tone scale is absolutely beautiful... just
thought i'd say that for no reason at all...


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2004-06-03 11:11 [#01221161]
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i must know!


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-03 11:19 [#01221175]
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Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike music that disregards
musical scales, if it's done well then it can be great to
listen to, but there is a time and place for it as far as
I'm concerned,
and I've got a very fussy GF too, if I put something like
Ryo Ikeda on she tickles me until I replace it with Bola or
something like that.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-03 12:22 [#01221287]
Points: 1818 Status: Addict



Heh... if a bitch told me to change the shit I was listening
to... I would punch her in the face.


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-03 12:47 [#01221322]
Points: 734 Status: Regular



So by that I'm presuming you aren't in a relationship right
now?

My GF takes self defence classes so I'm not going to mess
with her, that's for sure.


 


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