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offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-05-03 22:52 [#01172057]
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And we see systems like this in nature all the time.

Your own body is comprissed of living cells - Each one is a
single separate entity from its neighbours - On a very low
level of existance.

And if they had the ability to think and reason, I'm sure
none of them would rationally believe they all comprised a
greater "whole", especially if they could attribute and
break down everything in their lives as mechanical/logical
processes.

But you know perfectly well these millions of separate
entities support a higher level of intelligence.

The lines are blurred when you look at things like termites
nests - Where the individual termites comprise "nest/hive
consiousness" - With the queen as the reproductive organs,
the workers as the hands and feet, etc.....


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-05-03 22:54 [#01172058]
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Oh time does exist - It's just not linear in the way we
perceive it in the middle dimensions.


 

offline raskolnikov from Miami (Mexico) on 2004-05-04 00:17 [#01172088]
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I dont exist


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:28 [#01172093]
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time is elastic


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2004-05-04 01:53 [#01172171]
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what the "self" is really depends on how you believe
you originated. if you are to believe that you, or
all of mankind was created by a fully cognisant god of some
sort, then you'd be a design, a concept. if you are to
believe that there is no "higher power" then you'd really be
nothing more than an random occurence.. .basically a product
of a system of orderliness. you might consider the two to be
nearly one in the same.. but you'd think a god could "see"
the future in a way that a chaotic system of "cause and
effect" couldn't..
but really.. how do you define (a) god? and how would that
really be different than a seemingly random system of
conditions and conventions?


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2004-05-04 02:26 [#01172180]
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I really don't know


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-05-04 05:39 [#01172282]
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buddhist principles state that only through detachment from
the self can one be aware of absolute truth (or, god)


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-05-04 09:04 [#01172568]
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dummies


 

offline 3051 from Vietnam on 2004-05-04 09:14 [#01172588]
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Has anyone here played Day of Tentacle ?


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2004-05-04 14:18 [#01173115]
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of course.


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2004-05-04 14:19 [#01173118]
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..makes sense.


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2004-05-04 14:23 [#01173128]
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I think therefore I am. Descartes summed it up.


 

offline 3051 from Vietnam on 2004-05-04 14:34 [#01173151]
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I still do not know what cognitive process has to do with
existance of something. I dislike Descartes because he
stressed his thoughts to prove god's existance. His
philosophy is like a world seen through different shades of
light. Ideas are good, then religion thing screws it up
completely. I wish he was born in different time and in
different environment.


 


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