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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-09 07:25 [#01065365]
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What about DJs who make rhythms by re-arranging existing
breaks (Just like you'd do with Dr. Rex/Recycle, but done in
real time)? Surely all they're using is the drum sounds?

Similarly, with a pair of constant tone records, it's
possible to play completely new melodies (using +-50% to
alter the pitch and the crossfader to alter duration).

So, imagine a DJ records (to say a multitrack recorder or a
HD) a track consisting of a rythm track, a melody and a
bassline made as I've described... surely that's a
legitimate, "original" creation? The only source sounds
they've used are: A constant tone (like a synth would use) a
kick drum sample, a hi hat sample and a snare. 4 samples in
all...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-09 07:26 [#01065367]
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Yes, people applying the DJ mentality to music making is how
sample CD manufacturers (and Ejay) get their cash ;)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-09 07:43 [#01065385]
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rearranging beats, and sampling notes is making music. you
just use sounds you think sound cool (and you can't make
them on your own without them sounding like crap!)


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-02-09 07:47 [#01065388]
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so how'd you use loudboxer from speedy j live? that'd be
pretty improvisational skills, or may you use it at home
like it's yours?


 

offline KADO from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-09 07:51 [#01065390]
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I read that Fingathing (on grand central) use only
turntables and a double bass to record their tracks. All the
beats are scratched and chopped in then built up with a
multitrack. That must take a lot of effort


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-09 08:04 [#01065394]
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I've seen Fingathing live. Great live show and yes, they do
just use a turntabilist, sampling drum machine and double
bass player. Peter Parker (the turntabilist) is
fantastically disciplined in his playing style... he plays
tracks scratch for scratch perfectly as if he were
performing "normal" non-improv music. If there weren't the
VJ's cameras showing close ups of his hands I'd think he was
miming, it was that good!



 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-02-09 08:59 [#01065429]
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DJ aura @ warprecords/radio

and DJ Ned too

he puts in lovely tiny little bits from songs..

he has a lovely, 10 sec BoC sample over >[ ]'s "my fucking
sound". Sweet


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-02-10 06:36 [#01066696]
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I LIKE TACIDOS>


 

offline the_particles on 2004-02-10 07:26 [#01066735]
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ok, can i just say. i am a DJ. and i saw the title of this
forum topic (and with out reading the rest, in fact i havent
who could be fucked reading 52 posts) i have to say FUCKING
RIGHT WE ARNT MUSICIANS!!!!! we mix other peoples music, i
mean sure we can put two songs togeather, but can we really
"play a tune"..... we can "make sounds". dont let the ego
get to you just cause your playing the crowds fav song which
might happen to be timberlake or some thing.

however when i say djs i am distinguishing from
TURNTABLISTS!.....

dexter from the avalanches im sure u all agree is by no
means a dj, best you could say is post-modern composition!

ne way my two cents

and im still not reading the rest..... fuck if u have read
this far (52 topics) fucking get over it!

amen

dan


 

offline the_particles on 2004-02-10 07:34 [#01066746]
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ahhhh funny piss laughing thought zone: djs in those
rnb/nu-metal videos that actually dont do anything.....
haha.

what i dont get with djing.... why do i get paid so much?


 

offline Jazembo from The Earth ball on 2004-02-10 07:35 [#01066749]
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are you 'the particle 6' on zebox by any chance?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-10 07:37 [#01066754]
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boobies!


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-10 07:41 [#01066761]
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What a prat.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-10 07:46 [#01066768]
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Jarworski: can you synch your avatar to this song?
(not by me)


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-02-10 08:24 [#01066814]
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strange.


 

offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2004-02-10 09:06 [#01066855]
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agreed. all the Dj's i know have no musical background, but
have the ability to mix it well.


 


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