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Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy. |
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Spongie Bob? NO ! |
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In cows it's Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy. The human version is Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease. They name them differently so the masses can't make a distinction. ; ) |
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its a very interesting disease name, ill use it for a song name. oh and from what I read, the disease turns your brain into a sponge like material, ever pushing the brain outwards pushing against the inner walls of the skull, making it "mad" |
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I take your point very well. I always told non meat eaters to leave me alone, but shit, when you look into it, it's fucking revolting. I'm don't know what to do, but I am going to try and find some "organic" or small farms to support instead of this crap. Until then, I close to deciding not to eat any beef. |
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here's my opinion : whatever ur reasons od what u like its nothing to do with anyone else except u just bloody well do it. i personaly dont eat meat. my brother was butcher n as long as he didntt throw it in my face i didnt give a shit.. so yeah , all happy. |
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Imagine how the plant kindom feels with you Veg-heads eating up all their reproductive organs. At least Carnivores put the poor beasties out of their misery. Side note on Mad Cow- Its caused by something called a Prion- its not a virus or a bacteria, just some fucked up protein that somehow induces the other proteins in the connective tissue of your brain to fold incorrectly. The result being the break down of the tissue- holes in the brain. No cure- no treatment. And on that note Im off to have a nice fillet- prices are dropping like a led zepplin. YUM!!!! |
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that's really nasty about the hotdog making.. but at least they are using all of the animal and not just throwing it out.. an intestinal tubing link stuffed with miscellaneous scraps and various entrails anyone? |
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im sorry to sound extreme and criticizing meat eaters, but you should know what your eating, i fucking hate ingorant people who say i dont want to know...if what your eating involves something you dont want to know about...doesnt that tell you something? also: heres where i criticize, i dont mean to but i feel i must say this(dont take it personally though, im just trying to get those who havent thought about this something to chew on). any educated person who lives comfortably should not eat meat...just the evidence that vegetarians\vegans are alive and well should be enough proof but obviously it isnt. if you can live without taking life, why would you choose to? food is not meant to be eaten for your tastebuds, but for your health. the whole notion of eating what tastes good is deranged and ridiculous idea. now, if your living in the woods or are an eskimo living in alaska or a tribesman in africa, obviously meat is essential to live, but the average person does not NEED to kill to live. just think about it, thats all im saying. i was a meat eater 3 years ago(although very little, ive never had steak,ham or any red meat in my life) and i just started to question why i was eating what i was eating. my questioning even led to my parents becoming vegetarians. well thats enough talking for me for now. |
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but of course i dont want to sound preachy\shoving this down your throat. it all comes down to you and what you want to do, afterall we all control what we do. |
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please keep your politics out of my belly. 30,000 years of primate evolution seems like a better arguement to me than a few hundred years of vegitarian dieting. |
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part of the problem of BSE has evolved because the bio industry uses ALL of the meat. you see, not all of it gets used in your food. what is left over is fed back to the animals. that is where BSE started. |
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actually, the oldest human remains that have been found indicated that that person was a vegetarian. |
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mad cow is also a nervous system disease. if that brain/spine/nervous tissue isn't eaten, you can't get it. Mad Cow is a threat to humans, which means we're eating brains/spine etc..... yuck |
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well it is pretty widely accepted in the biology community that eating meat is responsible for primates evolving large frontal lobes which helped us become the dominant species on the planet. so large frontal lobe, along with sharp teeth and eyes in the front of the head indicate a meat eater. again, i go with evolution on this one. |
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exactly. I can see why people want to eat meat, but it should be done in a humane way. I hate the idea of an animal being just another product. |
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i think it's more along the lines of, when they slaughter a cow, it is a huge mess so invariably a little of everything gets into everything else. this is why hamburger is so much worse than a straight steak and why you can eat rare steak (seared on the outside) but eating rare burger is probably a bad idea ( the outside is mixed up with the inside) i'm not really sure if this applies to BSE though. |
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even if that is true, you can think. you can make decisions. evolution will go on with or without you. you will not die any earlier because you do not eat meat. really, what a shit argument..! as if you are tied by evolution! |
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i can see that, i agree that the industry needs to be kept in check, but no matter what, there will always be people who object to the killing of animals. so where do you draw the line? i say, draw no line. If you eat it, eat it. if not, then fine. just don't harrass me with it. I just want other people's politics off of my dinner plate. |
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nah, I'm not saying you can't eat meat because I choose not too. it's your choice. I would never try to stop anyone from eating meat. only when it comes down to the argument of evolution I think it's just a mental scapegoat, if you will, some kind of fuzzy logic to cover up having to make a real choice. |
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i don't mean that i am obligated by evolution to eat meat. rather, that evolution shows me that it is not unhealthy or wrong for me to eat meat. |
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I see what both of you are saying. humans definetly evoloved with meat eating properties. Our front canines make it obvious were weren't just herbivours. I think qrter is just saying that because we DID eat meat historically, doesn't mean we SHOULD now. I also hear the steak v. hamburger thing too, I ain't eating hotdogs for a while, but I might still eat a tri-tip |
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vegetarian. |
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no, that isn't true, I don't really want beef products for a while after this and the pictures of the slaughterhouses ugh |
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Go read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair I'm mildly amused by this whole thing, kudos BE |
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ahhhhh, thanks guys. I love steak too! But I love ya'll even more L') |
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second that idea. It's a quick read too, very grisly tale of the industry we discuss here. |
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americans, don't worry, you're safe going to mcdonalds, theyres no meat whatsoever in their burgers |
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hahaha supposedly they own a company called "All Beef Patty" so when they advertise, "100% all beef patty" they are quite correct, they just aren't refering to the actual content of their burgers. tricky fuckers |
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Our canine teeth are, like all the great apes, used for show purposes and not for the tearing of flesh. If you look at our physiology it does lean towards the argument that humans are herbiverous. Examples: Carnivoures release heat by panting. Herbivours sweat through pores. Carnivours have short intestines. Herbivours have long. Carnivours jaws are hinged to go up and down. Herbivours jaws can move sideways. Carnivours saliva is acidic. Herbivours alkaline. Carnivours have claws, whereas we have very dextrous fingers (for picking berries n' shit). Carnivours digest meat raw. We have to cook meat to make it safe and palettable. Etc etc ad nauseum |
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i think, IMO, that we are both my man... ever heard of omnivorous? humans eat everything they can so that they can survive virtually everywhere it's not a question of being vege or carni in the beginning, we all know we can turn ourselves in whatever we want in these times, we just need to regulate the unnecessary violence in those industries, wethere we eat meat or not. |
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Carnivours digest meat raw. We have to cook meat to make it safe and palettable. yep: that's the most logical explenation to why humans are not meant to eat meat. Cooking is cultural behaviour, not natural. If can't digest something in its raw state (e.g. if we found it in nature) I am pretty damn sure we (humans) are not suppose to eat it. |
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Cooking is cultural behaviour, not natural. Why is "cultural behaviour" unnatural? |
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what I mean is, there are things we do today cause of the culture we live in (e.g. all technology). Cooking is not something every man would do if we'd be living on tropical islands / in jungles or wherever - we would eat all food raw like we're suppose to. Raw food isn't just "raw food" - it's LIVING FOOD. And as living creatures our diet needs to contain mostly living food, not dead (cooked) food. Many people don't know the effects of cooked-food diets or even "regular" (meat/milk etc) diets, but if they did, I am sure they'd be eating differently. |
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...but if they did, I am sure they'd be eating differently. If they understood that is. A lot of people are presented the information but do not understand it. |
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...if we'd be living on tropical islands / in jungles or wherever without any cultural progression... |
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I heart cognitive dissonance |
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Hehe. I wish everyone would give eating healthy a chance - it does soo much. People describe it as reaching a "natural high"... With own experience anyway, I know it's not worth eating a cooked food diet, if one has the option of eating a rawfood diet; because you feel soo much better on a rawfood (vegan) diet. |
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but most people will say (like me) what the hell do you eat if you ain't eating meat? -------- Peloton - points taken, well said |
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I eat a raw/livingfood-vegan diet, so I eat mostly raw fruits / vegetables... When I say rawfooddiet I mean 'healthy rawfooddiet', not just 'any rawfooddiet'. Although I prefer the term 'living foods-diet' I use 'rawfood-diet' here... Just think about it, have you ever heard someone tell you to eat less fruit? or that fruit / vegetables isn't good for you? Everybody knows they're good for you. Though few people know that you can not just survive on a diet like this, but that it also is a very natural diet for us, if not the best diet (the most healthy; makes you feel the best, and improves you physically and mentally). People don't know how much they are affected by cooked foods, mainly because they have been eating a cooked-food diet all of their lives. If you want to find out how you are affected, I urge to to look for answers. Personally I know it's hard to talk about rawfoods to cookedfoodists, because few understand the theory or are unwilling to change (because they think it's too hard). But the ones who do change, they sure get rewarded. You're not giving up things, you're doing yourself a favour and getting lots in return! The difference between rawfoods / regular (meat) diet is really big. I never was a vegetarian (altough I had considered it for a long time) before starting with this diet. But I reccon, starting with is one of the best decisions I've ever made. A lot of things you can you say about this diet sounds "too good to be true". But I urge everyone to try it out. Eating healthy makes such a HUGE difference, it can't be imagined. If you don't want to eat a livingfood/vegan diet for the environment or for the animals, do it for yourself. Once you're on the diet (it takes a while to adjust) you don't want to go back. |
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well speaking for myself, im trying to talk my mum Out of her vegetarian diet cause its wasting her away :( |
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if it's an unhealthy vegetarian diet, instead of talking her out of it, tell her to change it (and give her accureate information on why she should change it). |
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for sure. although its my mum thats the encyclopaedia on vegetarian :) |
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but... what do you mean by that her diet is wasting her then? you should be proud (unless she really is wasting away) ... I like vegetarian girls. |
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i dont think shes getting the energy required. i was vegetarian also for a number of years but due to being run down i got back into the meat :) i guess its not for our genepool! |
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Worked in a slaughterhouse, wasnt the best job i've had. And i still eat meat tho, but only in pure form, no burgers or sausages or so, it's just leftovers put in a shape. I wonder how many people will eat meat if they have to kill their own food. |
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right here - heh, killing my own food would only make it taste that much better. i heard on sex with sue that vegetarians have semen that tastes better. like walnuts or something. |
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Sure people will still eat meat, look at africa for example, they eat their own cows rare but for alot of people in the "western" world, i think they will become veggies because they can't kill an animal with their own bare hands. |
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you don't need to cook meat to be able to eat it. |
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ok you can eat it raw, but you cannot digest it anyway. And you won't be feeling to good (or be alive for that matter) for long if you eat raw meat. |
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