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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-11-11 19:29 [#00946431]
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but perhaps it is manifested only as a being in existence, not within an actual physical form.
i think that's what you're getting at...
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-11-11 19:32 [#00946435]
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thank you. the link does this thread all the more justice, methinks.
but to elaborate on your explanation of choice - again, there is the inherent paradox: "until something causes you to return to the source" ... so isn't there an element of, ahem, causality to existence then? if all things are inherently interconnected, each part is necessarily dependant on every other part - paradoxically, therefore, in order for anything to exist, there must be its opposite - lack of existence. same with choice.
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-11-11 19:37 [#00946441]
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i can see each part as being connected at one source but the physical manifestations not being necessary to continue the existence of the source. thus, since the manifestations don't neccessarily need to exist, nothingness doesn't need to exist. the manifestations choose to come into PHYSICAL form, the source does not choose to exist. it is eternal.
if i said anything twice it's because i'm high.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-11-11 19:41 [#00946444]
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all is well and fine, but someone explain to me this: if i am but a part of the source, why is it that i have chosen such a thorn-laden path for myself - what with having to eat, sleep, poop and work for my daily bread? one would think i would've been smart enough to choose a more cushy mode of existence ...
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-11-11 19:46 [#00946445]
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the source of humanity, not the larger source, only the one that forms humans, has taken on the form that we now embody. humanity chose to be able to eat delicious foods, but because of the laws of the source that spawns the scientific laws we have regarding energy transfer and whatnot, we have to be able to poop as well. when humanity was first trying out "existence", it didn't have to commute 2 hours to an office job for shitty wages to afford a 1 bedroom apartment. it stabbed deer with pointy sticks. our intellect, however, has caused us to create technology. in order to have that technology, we have to work to afford it. nobody's stopping you from running around in the forest with a sharp stick eating deer.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-11-11 19:47 [#00946448]
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or better yet, why would the source make the choice to exist as Dubya, living with the disillusionment that he is on a mission from the Allmighty to save the Earth from Evil?!?
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-11-11 20:04 [#00946462]
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he's not. his environment, being america, is overrun by those not enlightened enough to discuss issues such as the one we're discussing now in the peaceful method we're discussing now, have to be re-assured that their beliefs about life and death are "correct". this unfortunately means the eventaul erradication of all other beliefs, because to alter the belief system in any way, despite changing technology and greater intellect, would be to admit to being...*gasp*...wrong at one point. to prevent this from happening america votes in mr. god (or maybe not, there was that whole recount thing) and his administration convinces him to "get the edge on the competition". step 1: oil step 2: the world.
we've all seen that step 1 is failing miserably, and if this comes as a wakeup call to the country then it is proof that nature and existence will sort of "even things out" and we can go towards fixing the last 4 years.
i vote for "operation human evolution" where every human on the planet gets mailed a tab of acid and a copy of gescom - this.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-11 22:20 [#00946587]
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manticore, remember that george w. bush, like each of us, is only a child.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-12 01:53 [#00946731]
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I'm FROm HollANd, Don't botter about my way of spelling, it's about understanding, universal understanding.
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