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it all starts with one entity. the entity is in a perpetual dream state, and within this dream state multiple characters are created as the entity percieves itself in the multiple third person, much as we do when we go to sleep. when you're dreaming, multiple characters all have their own thoughts, opinions, motives, and ideas, of which many may be nothing like your own. thus, it is entirely possible that we are all one entity in a dream state creating multiple characters that all act on their own, thinking they are actually in charge of their own paths. each character also percieves time at a different moment on the universal timeline. their moment in perception is based on the moment of self-actualization when the character is generated by the entity. thus, lets say you are reading this and writing me an angry e-mail telling me i'm going to hell. i became aware of my own existenc 2 hours before you, so i've actually read your e-mail AND replied to it, even though you're now deciding what you're going to put in the e-mail. however, in my perception there's no time dilation, i simply realized i had an email and read it. time's not faster for me than you, i'm just two hours ahead in my perception of events that already happened. |
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deja-vu is actually your character accidentally slipping the bonds of time perception and briefly jumping ahead (as far as the deja vu lasts) then back to the normal spot on the timeline. thus, you get the feeling that you've done what you're doing at the moment before, when in actuality you experienced it twice in a row, but your character's brain is not capable of percieving such a thing as a jump on the universal timeline, so an inexplicable feeling known only as "deja vu" is generated. the beauty of this is that not only can it not be proven, it cannot be dis-proven as well. the other beauty is the entirely new direction that can be taken in arguments. say we're arguing over whether or not to eat hoagies or pizza, i can say "we already decided that hoagies was the best course of action, bought them, ate them, and enjoyed them. why can't you just leave the past alone?" you will either give in because there's no way to win that argument, or decided to go on your own to get pizza. at which point i will rush ahead of you, demolish the pizza parlor and replace it with a subway, claiming "you can't deny your path. have you not seen 'final destination'?" |
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i was taking a nice long dump at work today when i came up with this. the only logical explanation is that the toilet = divine inspiration. |
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deja-vu is when is really has happened before buy you've forgotten it has |
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but who put the perrpetual drream state therre duh duh duh derr |
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no because one time i was going to a part with a friend and we were at a house i've NEVER been at before in my life, yet i got a deja-vu sensation for about 2-3 minutes as soon as i walked in the house. and i'm CERTAIN it was the first time i'd ever been there. |
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the entity is actually ASLEEP in a totally different world from our own. and we get glimpses of that reality when we release our character's "bonds" in this world, sometimes through dreaming ourselves, or through things like acid and shrooms. |
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corrections *partY *existencE |
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yourr theorry is crrumbling |
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good read |
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there was a mind, who existed in solitude. it's name was marlowe. when marlowe became aware that it had formed, it recognized that it was totally alone. marlowe struggled with its creative impulses, straining to understand how to use its awareness. first, flickering images that represented itself formed. then, the images of others emerged. eventually, marlowe learned to dream, and the images of others became minds and individuals within the dream world who lived various lives. in an act of profound benevolence, marlowe extended permanence to these dream minds by speaking their names, and the minds became real, no longer bound by the dream world that marlowe had created. these dream minds made real were called the nacmat. once real, the nacmat were endowed with the same creative power of marlowe, and as they discovered the depth of their gift, more dreaming minds formed within them, until the nacmat too extended the gift that was given them and gave reality and creative power to the dream minds within them. this process continued for millions of years, until there was a break in the chain. one of the dream minds, when made real, recognized the chain of extending creativity and decided that instead of granting reality to the dream minds within itself, it would deny them the gift of creative energy and keep it for itself, attempting to break away from marlowe. this mind's name was jaroen. jaroen believed that in doing so, it could become more powerful than even marlowe. jaroen believed that it created reality, but created only dream worlds. believing that it had awakened to its own power, jaroen instead lay trapped in slumber. the minds trapped within jaroen were called the uzim. as the uzim within jaroen grew, some became aware that they existed only as dreams within this sleeping mind, and some worshipped jaroen, believing that he represented the original creative mind of marlowe. some uzim believed that their dream world was the only reality, and that jaroen was just a vivid projectio |
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n of their imagination. other uzim had a variety of ideas and theories concerning their situation. the uzim became divided against themselves, and fought over their dreamworld, causing tremendous suffering. as jaroen slept, their dream world was like a wilderness in which the sun that was meant to bring them light burned them, and the seas that were meant to bring them sustenance drowned them. some of the uzim cursed jaroen for their suffering. jaroen became aware that it had made a mistake, but remained conflicted by a lust for power, and incorrectly believing that it was cut off from marlowe, and unable to hear marlowe's voice in slumber, jaroen became consumed with guilt. unable to hear marlowe's words of forgiveness and comfort, jaroen's slumber continued since it did not know how to escape the dream. but marlowe, in its wisdom, had anticipated the problem the uzim and jaroen faced. marlowe knew that what jaroen had done was not a flaw in marlowe's gift, but a possible consequence of having given the gift of creative power unconditionally. so marlowe had secretly sent a messenger to the uzim's dream world, named atgmartin, who knew about marlowe and what jaroen had tried to do. atgmartin was unique, in that it was marlowe's messenger, but since it had entered the dream world, was also one of the uzim. additionally, atgmartin appeared in the dream world not as one person, but as twenty three pairs of uzim who then went out to every corner of the dream world. some of these forty six uzim became known, and some remained hidden. atgmartin understood that the situation was more complex than many of the uzim could understand, because of the way jaroen had defined their dream world. atgmartin devised a way to use suggestive stories and parables, which took various forms and styles, to illustrate what had happened to jaroen and the uzim, and the true identity of marlowe. as atgmartin's words spread through their dream world, the uzim became aware that the slumber was the result |
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i remember reading that in another thread. i think it was one of those "interesting facts about christianity/you are offending america" threads. |
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of jaroen's denying the gift of marlowe by failing to extend the gift in unconditional benevolence. the uzim, with atgmartin's help, realized that they, as dream manifestations of jaroen, were actually the shattered pieces of the whole jaroen. the uzim understood that to heal jaroen, they themselves must resolve their own lust for false power, must stop dividing their world, and must stop attacking their fellow uzim. the uzim within the slumbering jaroen used their collective energy with the help of atgmartin to reawaken jaroen in which they existed. because of atgmartin, the uzim knew that, despite their name, they were not separate from jaroen, and that jaroen, despite the slumber, was not separate from marlowe. jaroen then discovered marlowe's plan and realized the mistake was forgiven, and chose to accept and extend the gift of marlowe, and release the uzim from the dream world, and endow them all with the bestowal of creative energy, and they would go on to form new worlds. |
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kochlear you're wrong, no one actually read those three posts. |
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then the Anus_Presley came in theirr hairr and became lorrd. |
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also, here's something to think about: stuff in the real world affects the dream world. i spent all night playing vice city while listening to Hail To The Theif as my custom soundtrack. last night, i kid you not, i had a dream that me & thom yorke were driving around motorcycles committing crimes. however the crimes were stupid and immature...for one we stole 2 bottles of beer from some adult's fridge then snuck out into the bushers and each drank one. thom said something like "i hope the grown ups don't find out" which is now hilarious when i think about it. oh well, my point was that maybe in the entity's world, it's quite similar to our current world since this is a dream influenced by that world. however, things tend to inexplicably change in dreams, so maybe everyone drives giant rubber chickens instead of cars. so when the entity wakes up and this world ends, he will call is friend and say "i had this strange dream. we were all driving cars made of metal". |
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jesus already did that, pick something new you HACK! |
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*changeD *hiS i wshi i kenw hwo to tyep. |
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*inserrts rrandom non sequitorr sexual descriptorr disguised as a joke* *melts back into the drreamworrld* |
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I'M TEH VERRY FUCKING BEST |
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yourr rrhetorric is cerrtainly enterrtaining. |
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yes, yes. you are teh best. |
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aRRe. |
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deja vu happens when yoúr brain is storing things twice or more in your head. You think you've been somewhere before, that's because it has already been stored the second time your brain stores it. I'm not kiddin it's scientifically proved..sorry dude..it's just you and your brain and others with brains also :) |
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define "scientifically proven". science is just a concept generated by the entity in his dream state (hence, sometimes a lack of gravity and other illogic takes place in dreams), so I WIN. |
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maybe you're a) a narcist or b)a schizofrenic c) you need a god. i think it's a. Cause off the winning part in your reply. |
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so nacmat is dreams that come real? nice |
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MEBBEE U OUR IN NEEED UV A GAWD HOO IZ A SPEL CHEKKAR |
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we just have to hope that nacmat's dream doesn't become lucid, or it will become all of our nightmare. ;) |
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once you are out of the realm of human science you can set yourself up for constant validity. thats why you won. |
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kreshpatularum, the god of 'no pants' is angered by your avatar and will cast you into the pit of despair. |
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lolwtf, the god of "changing subjects" is angered by your post and will cast you into the pit of death |
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yes but i have already percieved every post on this thread. it eventually degrades into an argument on whether "kraft" macaroni and cheese is better than the generic brand, so i decided it was a better idea to go upstairs and play xbox. |
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sounds good to me! |
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NO, THE GENERIC BRAND'S CHEESE POWDER ISN'T NEARLY AS DELICIOUS! |
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LOL |
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wtf. i thought everyone knew velveeta shells & cheese were teh best |
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who would've thought that defecating could inspire such lofty philosophical heights? they don't call the outhouse the philosopher's kingdom for nothing! but more seriously, most Near-Death Experience accounts confirm the assertion of a singular, indivisible existence (much in the vein of Bhuddism, mind), and thus we (and all which exists) collectively comprise God in as much as God comprises us. read more here: |
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PLAIDZEBRA, oh wise one! i have read your extensive parable on the nature of the functioning of existence, and yet, it does not serve to explain the origins of the entire process - that is to say, it does not answer the question of how Marlowe came to be aware of its own existence? and moreover, what, if anything, came before Marlowe? if you read the NDE account i've posted a link to, the person makes a point that the statement "I AM" ought to be supplemented by "WHO AM I?" as the singular collective (a paradoxical term, i know, but that's precisely what the universe is built upon) infinitely explores its own self through the never-ending cycle of creation and destruction - that is to say, seemingly there is no end and there is no beginning to it all. |
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i think if we took a poll on my relative wisdom here, i'd be labeled the village idiot! : ) marlowe does not know if there are more like marlowe, and marlowe cannot know, but knows this. we are discussing something that is beyond our present scope. anyway, as you woke up in this world in space at a point in time, so did marlowe awaken in an infinite moment, in which there is no beginning and no end. perhaps we will begin to see that there is no plateau to understanding. darkness tightens like a noose; the light unfolds forever, within an infinite moment... |
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i beg to differ. i have been discussing astrological matters with a friend of mine (also an Aries much like yourself, albeit on the cusp of Pisces), and the common concensus is that Aries folk are often sought after for advice and wisdom - and that seems to have been the common trend with your likes on this messageboard. at any rate, agreeably, it all is very much beyond the scope of our painfully limited understanding. have you had a chance to read the NDE link i've posted above yet? don't be horrified by the awful graphics - the content is worth the attention. |
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marlowe is the gift that keeps on giving. accepting the gift is giving it away. denying the gift is like a broken circuit. this would not be meaningful if you were not given a choice. |
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i get mixed reviews! nevertheless, thanks for your kind words. i will check out your link. |
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but the question then becomes such: how does one define choice? if all things exist as a singular collective - the direction of the path which existence takes is defined by the collective, rather than its constituent parts, true? that is to say, beyond the realm of illusion that is physical existence, one does indeed make a choice how it all comes to unfold, but within the physical existence itself, things are pre-destined by that original choice, no? |
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to qote (yes, it's a habit of mine), minneapolis' very own hip-hop heroes Atmosphere: "if i did have a choice, i'd never live forever, 'cause i can't imagine running a race with no finish line" |
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each thread leads back to the same source, and yet is unique. each thread, ultimately, determines its path. a thread may end in darkness, or may increase the intensity of its light and vibration, and may divide infinitely into other threads. none of this, of course, is intended to be taken literally. i wouldn't think of marlowe as a central processor in which all decisions are made. though there is only one source, this is not a collective, or a committee. i'm not sure what you mean by "that original choice," but i would suggest that aside from the gravity of probability there is nothing predestined. |
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by the term 'collective' i mean a singular entity which manifests itself through infinite forms of existence - thus an illusory perception of an individual existence appears to the form/being experiencing it, when in actual fact, it is merely a constituent part of the source from which it stems - "from one source all things depend". by "the original choice" i mean the decision, if you will, which the source undertakes as to the means through which it comes to manifest itself - so there is a duality to the notion of choice - the source chooses each individual path - the existence of the manifestation of the source (the form it takes) is conditioned upon the original decision which the source has made. awfully convoluted, i know, but hopefully it makes some sense. |
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choice is the turning point when you come into existence because you choose to exist. from that point on you have the ability to continue to make choices until something causes you to return to the source. |
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ps i read that WHOLE link you posted and it was quite interesting. |
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