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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-02 08:49 [#00930105]
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have you recieved your shit already?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 08:50 [#00930107]
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Well I got my large order but it had the Dial P and vibert stickers missing. With people saying how good Dial P is I really want that. They've sent it. I don't careabout the stickers although my girlfriend wanted them. I ordered the chocolate wheelchair too and that's not arrived. I hope my rephlexions isn't delayed! :(
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-02 08:51 [#00930109]
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damn this if my order arrives in 5 days or so and dial p is missing theres no chance in the world ill be able to get hold of another copy
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-02 09:01 [#00930123]
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This triggered an argument with my parents. It can be boiled down to:
Me- Generally oppossed to strikes, glad the unions were depowered back in the 80s.
Them- All corporations are evil if they could they wouldn't give us holiday/sick pay and children would still be working down the mines etc.
They don't seem to grasp that if unions ran the country they would be just as bad as the corporations are now.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 09:18 [#00930133]
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there there *pats back*
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 09:19 [#00930135]
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In theory they wouldn't but in reality they will. Thqat's the sad thing./
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 09:21 [#00930137]
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i ordered spokes the day before it was released. I better get my free cd else i'll go to london and piss blood into the mouths of the warp cockwhores
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 09:23 [#00930140]
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BAH! I amde my order on 2nd October!
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 09:25 [#00930143]
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yikes. And they didnt send you the free CD? Bunch of assholes. As if they dont make enough feckin money
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 09:30 [#00930152]
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Just off of me they make a shit load! :P
It was a simple mistake though. I e-mailed and they apologised for it. I won't hold it against them as it's the first time an order's gone wrong for me. They're sending it though.
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diablo
on 2003-11-03 10:15 [#00931776]
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this country is fucked! get back to work you lazy gits.
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 10:26 [#00931785]
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Im waiting for my new passport to arrive. Ive got 10 days till i go on holiday, hope they start delivering mail soon.
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telica
from london/york on 2003-11-03 10:31 [#00931796]
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the muppets have gone back to work. about fucking time too. i want my cds and books! i bet they'll have got lost what with all the squillions of letters and parcels backed up. grrr.
i wish i lived in greendale. postman pat wouldn't do this to us.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-11-03 10:33 [#00931801]
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oh snap!
well, the mail is delivered here ok, I get bills and junk mail with regularity.
i think I'll call it the post though
post post post post
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-03 10:37 [#00931806]
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damn
its still not here.. so i mailed warp
i hope they know whots going on.. theyve been very nice to me before..
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diablo
on 2003-11-03 10:42 [#00931811]
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so the strikes are over? I haven't seen any news in days
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Tommib
from Canterbury (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 10:46 [#00931816]
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I want the chocolate wheelchair album!! waaaaaaaa!!
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sploog
from United States on 2003-11-03 13:07 [#00932166]
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i ordered from warpmart just before the strike, i haven't got my package. arghhhh...
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-11-03 13:25 [#00932207]
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I forgot all about it !
My pay slip arrived ok on friday though
effected areas -
London
Central London: EC1-4, WC1, WC2
West London: all W postcodes
North London: N1-3, N5-8, N10-13, N16, N19, N21
North West London: NW1- 6, NW8-11
South West London: SW1-2, SW4-6, SW8-20
South East London: SE1-5, SE7-10, SE13-16, SE19-28
East London: E1, E3-4, E6, E10-14, E16-17
Special Delivery items are not being accepted in any of the above London postcodes for the time being, but will resume from Tuesday.
Post boxes are being unsealed in all of the above London postcodes. This process may take a couple of days to complete.
Middlesex
Greenford: HA, UB
Post boxes are being unsealed and Special Delivery items will be accepted from Tuesday.
Essex
Ilford: IG1-6, IG8, IG11
Romford: RM1-2, RM4, RM7, RM9, RM12, RM13, RM15
Southend: SS3-5, SS9, SS13-17
Colchester: CO1-4 Post boxes are being unsealed in all the above IG and RM postcodes.
Special Delivery items were suspended in IG, SS, CO, CM or RM postcodes but will resume on Tuesday.
Kent
Dartford: DA1-5 Post boxes were also being sealed in DA 1-5, but are now being unblocked.
Maidstone: ME Special Delivery items were suspended in DA or ME postcodes but will resume on Tuesday.
Buckinghamshire
Milton Keynes: MK1-7, MK9, MK10, MK15, MK17 Special Delivery items were suspended in MK postcodes but will resume on Tuesday.
Oxfordshire
Oxford: OX Special Delivery items were suspended in OX postcodes but will resume on Tuesday.
Berkshire
Slough: SL1-0 Special Delivery items were suspended in SL postcodes but will resume on Tuesday .
Hampshire
Portsmouth: P0 Special Delivery items were suspended in P0 postcodes but will resume on Tuesday.
Wiltshire
Swindon: SN Special Delivery items were suspended in SN postcodes but will resume on Tuesday.
Lanarkshire
Staff at Scotland's largest mail distribution centre at Wishaw, Lanark
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-11-03 13:27 [#00932211]
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Lanarkshire
Staff at Scotland's largest mail distribution centre at Wishaw, Lanarkshire briefly walked out on Wednesday but returned to work later. Royal Mail said customers should continue to post letters as normal.
Staffordshire
About 80 staff walked out of a Stoke-on-Trent mail delivery depot on Friday. Royal Mail said the ST6 post code area was worst hit.
Cambridgeshire
Staff at the Cambridge sorting office walked out on Friday afternoon.
Mail centres unaffected by the action include:
Gatwick Mail Centre, Crawley
Guildford Mail Centre, Woodbridge Meadows, Guildford
Hemel Hempstead Mail Centre, Park lane, Hemel Hempstead
Peterborough Mail Centre, Papyrus Road, Peterborough
Reading Mail Centre, 80 Caversham Road, Reading
Royal Mail Canterbury, Military Road, Canterbury
Tonbridge Mail Centre, 20 Vale Rise, Tonbridge
Southampton Mail Centre, Mitchell Way, Southampton International Airport, Southampton.
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 13:32 [#00932217]
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i got warp orders . play.com orders ebay gear and i sold like 20 or more cd's and am waiting on payment - and my c card got nicked a week ago and i'm waiting on a new one - they couldnt have timed it better - feckers
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 13:47 [#00932229]
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Well at least my eBay packages have arrived. But having read the pOgO post I see that the two places I get post are in the affected list! w00t! FUCKINg POST!
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-11-03 13:49 [#00932233]
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im waiting too on my sleeze
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2003-11-03 14:00 [#00932243]
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i could go for a chocklitt weel cherr about now
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 14:02 [#00932244]
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pOgO is the oracle
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2003-11-03 19:40 [#00932917]
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YaY!
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 01:00 [#00933216]
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sweet, i just got dial p, spokes, sheath, and a whole bunch of stickers and postcards and all sorts of yummies. Thankyou warp.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-04 01:45 [#00933242]
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Ceri
How can you be oppossed to unions? The only people oppossed to unions are the BNP. People have the right to organise themselves democratically and withdraw their labour. Otherwise you have fascism.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-04 04:19 [#00933415]
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Ha ha, I don't believe the unions are in (all) the workers interest as much as people make out. They're often responsible for violence on workers who for financial reasons can't afford to take a days strike (or agree to take semi-voluntary redundancy). The very real threat of getting murdered (or at least a severe kicking) by your co-workers because you are not in favour of a strike sounds a lot nearer to fascism than democracy to me... Thats without even beginning to consider the mob ties in America and the diffculty unions used to cause with getting work for travellers and "outsiders". I know they're closed now, but you would *never* of got a job on Barry docks in its heyday unless you were a son of a union member. Tighter than the masons the dockers unions were...
"The only people oppossed to unions are the BNP."
Unless I'm getting my history muddled up, the conservatives were never great fans of them either...
I'm not opposed to the idea of better conditions for workers and more leave, shorter hourse etc. but I'd rather see it done through legislation brought about by a democratically voted in government than by Stalinists like Scargill.
In their favour, I do like the sculpture outside the general union headquarters in London.
Perhaps I'm merely envious as there is no union equivalent for IT professionals (BCS doesn't count IMO). Can you begin to image how much we'd have the country over a barrel if the IT staff of the country walked out for an across the board 10% pay rise?
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 04:41 [#00933430]
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Ooooh, I got my Dance Hits '94 CD. :D Nostalgia is a wonderous/awful thing.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 05:00 [#00933447]
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There's a package waiting for me at home :D
I don't know if it's my Dial P or Chocolate Wheelchair album :D Oh man! I can't wait to get home :D w00t!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-04 05:04 [#00933450]
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Who has been threatened with murder for crossing a picket line? A Royal Mail representative wheeled that one out the other day on C4 news and when Jon Snow asked for evidence he couldn't produce any.
If there were no unions your pay would be significantly less (OK, when you were working you sap on the taxpayer you!). Even if the IT secotr is not unionised a strong unionised workforce across the country has a general effect on wage levels.
As for legislation, unions force governments to enact such legislation. Employers don't give workers pay rises out of the goodness of their cold, hard capitalist hearts. They do so becuase workers demand them.
As for the dockers. all you had to do was join the union. The practice you speak of ensured a strong union which was able to fight for the interests for ALL of its members. Nothing wrong with that.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-04 05:56 [#00933486]
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There hasn't been serious violence in the recent bouts of strike. However, there's a famous (UK) legal case from the miners strikes where three strikers threw a paving slab off an overpass onto a car that a non-striking coworker was in(the outcome was that the murderers were not guilty as the counsel for the defense proved that these comparatively uneducated men could not of possibly worked out the physics needed to time it perfectly- sickening really as the physics involved in walking are far more complex... it's just one of those things the brain instincitvely "knows").
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-04 06:05 [#00933488]
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That was an isolated case. You can't take one case and generalise. Besides, governments do far worse. What about how the police and security services were used during the miner's strike? I interviewed a woman who's female friend took a beating from the police for just being on a picket line.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 06:11 [#00933491]
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You state unions are "often responsible for violence on workers who for financial reasons can't afford to take a days strike", then state one notorious case from the early 80's.
There's nothing like sweeping generalisations, eh?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-04 06:13 [#00933492]
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And none of them can really afford to strike.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 06:18 [#00933497]
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Yeah, the Met police were bussed into many mining villages and ran a campaign of violenece and intimidation. They even produced little stickers that they'd post up around town glorifying the battle hardness of the Met boys - not unlike certain hooligan football 'firms'.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-04 09:05 [#00933672]
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No, that's an example of someone being killed, in this country alone... There are far more examples of generalised violence. My father -who, incidentally, is now pro union and was not pleased to discover I had advised the other students on my course (I'm student rep.) to boycott a strike- and a collegue both very narrowly escaped a kicking from a union gang when he worked as a furniture mover. Fights often kick off at picket lines and I'm not talking about agent provocateurs- the french truckers port blocking last year resulted in at least two fights when frustrated people (who, as most victims of strikes are, had bugger all to do with the cause of the strike) tried to cross the line. Sure, in most cases trying to cross a picket line you'll just get jeers and maybe tripped up or pushed, but even that is hardly pleasant- it seems to detract somewhat from the idea of choice on the part of the worker.
Jonesy, with regard to "joining the dockers union" unless you were a docker's son they wouldn't let you join the union in the first place! There were real snags for people who lived in Barry who were not, "in the family" and hence couldn't get work. Parents of people I've worked with suffered this.
Come on Ecnadniarb and Promo, where are you guys? :P
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-11-04 10:36 [#00933805]
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i forrgive them
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-11-04 11:24 [#00933861]
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update
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-04 11:35 [#00933876]
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i sent a letter to redhill, surrey yesterday, it arrived today. i don't seem to be experienceing any problems at all, i also got my vid from mvc today
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-11-04 11:42 [#00933889]
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So who in the postal service are you shaggin' then ;o)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-04 11:53 [#00933910]
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postman pat...ricia
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-11-04 11:54 [#00933913]
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arf arf 8op
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-05 01:32 [#00935002]
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I don't see that a few rare examples of picket line violence are enough to justify your anti-union position. There are fights in pubs every weekend but you wouldn't say pubs should be banned. Or football violence is not enough to justify banning football matches.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-11-05 02:13 [#00935046]
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same problems for me :-/
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-05 02:18 [#00935048]
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I crossed a picket line last year, they didn't turn nasty until I was about 50 yards away and when I turned round and started towards them they all ran round the corner
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-05 02:40 [#00935060]
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Count yourself lucky you weren't murdered.
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-05 03:59 [#00935132]
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No packages in the post this morning. :| Eleven to come, still... bah.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-05 06:54 [#00935320]
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Well, I'm off to a union meeting in 5 minutes. Should be interesting to see if the "big bosses" of the NUS try to get us to advise students on our courses to strike over something this year. It'll be fun trying to talk people out of it... ah the games, the gamessssssssssss >;)
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