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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-20 14:17 [#00958766]
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music is wonderful, did you perhaps read anywhere if sophia picked music by herself?
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-11-20 14:24 [#00958779]
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yeah, she did. apparently she went to tokyo with a camera and an ipod scouting locations, and the music she listened to ended up being in the movie. which would imply that she listens to quite a bit of good music, which is cool.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-20 14:29 [#00958783]
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definitely cool :)
im looking even more to her new movie now...god knows what beautiful music will she use there hehe
i dont have the soundtrack for lost in translation yet, but im gonna get it (i'd already have it if our music stores would have taste in music...)
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2003-11-20 14:40 [#00958798]
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argh!!!!
the more you guys talk about this movie, the more impatient i get. i hope it comes to sweden soon...the soundtrack looks ace too!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-21 03:38 [#00959460]
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going to hit the shops around here today again, hoping on finding this soundtrack...everyone, whish me luck!!!
:)
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2003-11-21 16:41 [#00960485]
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fantastic movie, definitely the best i've seen in a while, it took me forever to drag my friends to see it, and they ended up loving it too.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-11-21 17:37 [#00960583]
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I've been looking around for the c.d. by the japanese band called "Happy End" on the soundtrack. I really like that song 'kaze wo atsumete.'
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-14 08:29 [#00990656]
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here's sophia's comment on film, which reall says it all...she couldnt make it any better imo
"I can only say why I wanted to make the movie: to convey what I love about Tokyo and visiting the city. It's about moments in life that are great but don't last. They don't go on, but you always have the memory and they have an effect on you. That's what I was thinking about. "
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-01-30 23:29 [#01055985]
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What a great movie! Only just saw it.
I'll have to watch it again - I got the feeling there was lots more going on than was immediately apparent - the fire alarm, all the dishes looking the same on the menu...
Charlotte keeps wandering into ceremonies - Buddhist, a wedding, that formal flower arrangement class - then she wanders into that twit's press conference about her movie - a kind of ceremony - where she mentions reincarnation, hmmmmmm.... "lost in translation" - the translation of the soul from one body to another paralleling the aging process?
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loaderror
from kansas city (United States) on 2004-01-31 00:58 [#01056008]
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her comment makes a lot of sense because that's the jist of what i loved about the movie, the little moments where you saw bits of japan. there was a lot of looking around.
the plot usually went missing... more often than not. it's definetely pretty good if not great, but it's not film of the year or anything. in my mind.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-01-31 05:30 [#01056106]
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I loved.
This film.
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-01 10:39 [#01057228]
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Definetely Film of the year so far for me. At least 5 People got up and left the screening half way through. Its insane how a lot of people need to be spoonfed the plot and have complete closure in a film.
My Favourite Peice Of Music From The Film Was - On the subway by brian reitzell + roger manning jr. Its short (1:15) but captures the films vibe perfectly. They did two tracks for the film, the other one was also good.
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EugeneII
on 2004-02-01 11:20 [#01057258]
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boring
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-02-01 11:21 [#01057260]
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cuz no one got shot?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-01 11:25 [#01057263]
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im getting this dvd the day it comes out
awesomeness movie
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2004-02-01 11:57 [#01057299]
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gonna see this next week for sure maybe tomorrow Billll Murrrayyyyyyyyy :D
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-02 00:10 [#01058007]
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true that. birthday money burnin a hole in my wallet...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2004-02-02 00:42 [#01058016]
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I thought the bits where the Japanese kept saying 'L' instead o 'R' was just THE funniest.
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-02 04:35 [#01058119]
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"Lip My Stockings!!"
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-02-02 04:42 [#01058121]
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I'm gonna see it in the cinema tonight
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2004-02-02 07:55 [#01058265]
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"Loger Moore, Loger Moore".
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-02-02 09:09 [#01058310]
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i second all yer +ive comments... top class film.
remember when Murrays in the bath and this cinematic score is playimg as the camera slowly moves toward him. Then you notice the mobile on the rim and Bill reaches over to answer it and...... the music stops! It was the fucking mega-high-tech japanese phone,NOT the score!
fucking genious that was...... they should get an oscar for sound editing for that alone (and Tommib of course!)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-02 14:38 [#01058655]
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Saw it, thought it was pretty good. Coulda done with a bit more bite, and although there it was all subtle and there wasn't much going on, that was the whole point. Dunno if Sir Bill deserves the oscar, I'd have to check out Mystic River (Sean Penn on form is usually excellent) but I enjoyed this. And two dumb bitches walked out halfway through, result!
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-02 14:41 [#01058658]
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24 ALL PAUL!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-02 16:10 [#01058732]
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sean penn was very good, as was tim robbins in Mystic River. But that movie was pretty ass lame over all. lots of good performances, but painfully obvious, unoriginal, grocery store novel caliber writing.
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dan7250
from Osaka (Japan) on 2004-02-02 16:16 [#01058736]
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help please.
i have the soundtrack and adore it.
but not peaches is on it... whats it the name of the peaches song?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-02 16:35 [#01058747]
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the song is called "fuck the pain away" by Peaches.
Peaches really sucks by the way. but that song was funny.
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dan7250
from Osaka (Japan) on 2004-02-02 16:39 [#01058749]
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cool. thanks for the info... and the tip.
my friend saw her live about a week ago and wasn;t overly impressed/
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-02 16:51 [#01058757]
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a friend of mine leant me his copy of peaches first album last year.. she seems too busy being confrontational to write really good songs.
'fuck the pain away' was alright (mainly because ive heard it used well in some dj sets at houseparties) but the lp didnt sustain my interest..
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mimi
on 2004-02-02 17:13 [#01058777]
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SO glad i didn't waste my money on this movie in the theaters -- i was all excited to see this movie because i thought sofia might be able to kick the shit, considering all of the great reviews the movie got, and how cool would that have been?.....instead we got romantic stupid comedy bullshit, with an unnecessary rip on cameron diaz (hey, i dont like her either, but if i was making a movie, i wouldn't throw references to her in it, it seems pretty pathetic and 7th grader-ish. i find it to be pretty disgusting for a grown woman to act like this.)...
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-02 17:17 [#01058781]
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so i guess i didn't catch the cameron diaz reference. how is that blond girl supposed to be C. Diaz now? i keep hearing about this reference but i don't see it.
this movie was the furthest thing from "romantic stupid comedy." I thought it was done quite tasteful regarding the fact that it did NOT become Autumn in New York or some shit with an old man hooking up with a young girl. They spent time together that was intimate, but i don't think it ever became romantic. Much closer to Father/daughter, than Lover/Lover.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-02 17:28 [#01058805]
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i think it was romantic, in its own way. but it never became crass.. and theres nothing wrong with romance, if its well done. love, on any level, must be one of the hardest things to achieve convincingly in any film.
if youre going to treat it as a romantic comedy, this film puts the myriad other films in this genre to shame.
i though it could have been a dodgy line to tread, having such an age gap between the two protagonists. but it never seemed sleazy. it was delicately handled.
as was the whole film. in my opinion, lost in translation was all about subtlety.
and as for the cameron diaz reference - i didn't spot it - and i couldn't be less interested.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-02-02 17:39 [#01058818]
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Please.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-02 17:51 [#01058826]
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exactly. It was potentially, overtly romantic, but the characters were mature enough to realize that the only thing they really had in common was their respective lonlieness.
i've heard mention of the cameron diaz reference before, i can only imagine it stems from the fact that the pop movie starlett in the film was starring in an action movie and from the fact she was blond and a little air-headed. But she was also about 10 years younger than Cameron Diaz.
even if it was a reference, it seemed quite harmless and the character was not without purpose in the film. She was a device to greater emphasize Charlotte's lonlieness by acting as something like a Siren, calling away Charlotte's husband.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-02 17:52 [#01058828]
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it was also, a kinda funny joke, that this character was too airheaded to really feel lonely.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-02-02 17:56 [#01058829]
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So to some it up if you don't like this film you're a soulless cock.
I mean come on, even Yavo liked it.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-02-02 18:01 [#01058830]
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why do people need to make some such comparisons? can't they just enjoy the movie? like they're looking for something to criticise...
the film was romantic, but not some cheesey romance - perhaps if there would be two other main actors it would have been different...it was an emotionally full film and nothing can make me think different :)
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-02-02 18:33 [#01058844]
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if you liked this watch "in the mood for love". its the same kind of platonic friendship, subtly romantic movie and sofia has said she was inspired by it when making this.
i actually am thinking about reserving a room in the park hyatt tokyo where this was filmed just for the hell of it. it'd be a nice place to stay when i get there, although i doubt i can afford even one night there.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-02-02 18:35 [#01058848]
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book in and run away the next morning :)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-02-02 18:43 [#01058861]
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That shakes it, I'll go see it TONIGHT!!!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-02 18:44 [#01058862]
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i've seen In The Mood For Love. while i really liked the cramped, subtle cinematography and the performances, i think Lost In Translation is a far superior movie. The characters in LiT are much more endearing and being american, easier for me to relate too.
In the Mood for Love is good too though. maybe if i had more background in Chinese Culture, i would have appreciated it more.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-02-02 18:46 [#01058867]
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bring a tissue :)
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-02-02 18:46 [#01058868]
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yeah, some of it has alot to do with that time period in china's history. it is more of an exercise in style whereas lost in translation takes that and then applies it to two great characters.
the only real flaw in LiT is that the other characters are like cartoons, but it sort of heightens the main characters situation.
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mimi
on 2004-02-02 18:56 [#01058874]
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ok, obviously i don't GET the movie. at any rate, i didn't compare it to anything, so i don't really know what you're going off about, tolstoyed. trust me, i wanted to like this movie.
maybe when it boils down to it, it's a character thing. i thought they were kind of flimsy. to me, charlotte came off as a spoiled waste of space. i didn't really care to watch her aimlessly loafing around in a luxury hotel bar. i didn't care for bob either, but it's hard to argue against bill murray.
the cultural nuances coppola throws in constantly seem to be style over substance, and pretty purposeless for the most part...as if arcades and strip clubs only exist in tokyo, maybe? i understand that she is trying to show how alienated they feel, but the only thing she did that i thought really got the job done was to show charlotte looking out over the city from her window by herself.
what i'll give Lost in Translation is that coppola did a great job in giving you that dull, sunday-homework feeling...and i honestly don't mean that in a bad way.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-02 19:14 [#01058895]
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i think the cultural nuances you refer too were more to show how similar, not different, that Tokyo is to an American Metropolis. Superficially it looks like TImes Square in New York or something. but at the same time, this familiarity breeds greater isolation, because it's all "so close but yet so far away."
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-02-02 19:15 [#01058897]
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it just seemed real to me...the feeling i can totally relate to, and the most important thing - it wasn't cheesey.
they both feel lonely and lost there. it's cool they don't discuss the whole relationship deeply, just so they don't loose what they have and toky seems like a good choice to me, it is flashy and all that but the story could easily be happening in some other city/country, apperantly sofia just wanted to film it there cuz she has some friends there and she probably likes japan, and it fits in perfect imo. i read a nice comment; he (murray) looks like he's saying goodbye to her life, and she looks like she's dreaming his life.
to me it was a perfect mixture of melanholic and joyfull feelings, and with a great picture and music is very close to a perfect movie for me :)
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mimi
on 2004-02-02 19:20 [#01058904]
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hmm, maybe, i didn't really see the johnny carson of tokyo to really be like johnny carson in the slightest, but perhaps that was an exception.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-02-02 19:24 [#01058909]
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Have you been to tokyo?
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mimi
on 2004-02-02 19:29 [#01058913]
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no.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-02-02 19:31 [#01058914]
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lost in translation could just as easily have taken place in any other major metropolis on earth. the idea was that the language barrier and cultural misunderstandings that are inherent in japanese/world relations would heighten the characters detachment. and it works. i've heard people call the movie racist, which is ridiculous. there was maybe one more "r's for l's" joke than necessary, but its true, and it was humorous. the movie isn't about japan, its about two people who are detached from life, and tokyo is the kind of city that could feed that detachment, especially if you're an american.
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