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Anus_Presley
on 2003-09-22 14:57 [#00873762]
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this is all such utterr bullshit.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-22 14:59 [#00873767]
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You really do have no idea what you're talking about do you?
Have you even read anything about the era of the British Empire? The Cold Hard Facts are that we were fucking tyrannical and left people with nothing to actually even fight back at us with. We went in and basically fucked their shit up for a long time. The reason it all seemed so peaceful is because there was nothing to fucking fight for then. They were under the thumb basically and there was nothing they could do.
The unrest now is directly related to the state the state that being part of the British Empire left them in. Before you start arguing about something fucking read up on it and have some basis for your arguments. Looking at it from your point of view it's going to look fucking sweet. Christ on a large fucking pole.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-09-22 15:05 [#00873773]
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and when you realise the amount of work that goes into serious software dev. it isn't too 'fucking' much. It's too much but minus the fucking! :)
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-09-22 15:30 [#00873808]
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that didn't quite come out the way it was meant to!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-09-22 15:32 [#00873811]
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:(
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-09-23 03:15 [#00874425]
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Promo you walking abortion, you come out with some real loony shit. I wouldn't mind arguing with someone if they actually backed up their statements with a teeny weeny bit of fact. You make stupid assertions and then don't qualify them. That's what separates the smart people from the ignorant and foolish.
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addi b
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-09-23 10:13 [#00874807]
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guys, Promo is just one of those totally ignorant capitalist cunts who couldnt back up his moronic comments even if hi´s life depended on it.
But what irritates about this is when people complain about Bill Gates not giving enough money because he is so rich :( Its just fucking stupid how much people envy those who are rich and shamly pretend they would be more giving if they had that sum of money. THE LACK OF MONEY IS NOT THE PROBLEM, BUT OUR SICK VALUE AND ENSLAVEMENT OF IT ARE!
Our world society should never EVER produce something like Bill Gates and his riches, so its extremely stupid to expect him to sort things like this out. Money doesnt solve problems.....governments and the world community SHOULD but are doing a terrible thing of it at the moment.
I listened to a Jeffrey Sachs lecture here in Iceland last week and learned the following;
1.it would take only 1,9% of the worlds income per /capita to successfully feed the world and cure most desieses (malaria,hepatitis and many more)
2.The USA, Greece and Italy only spend 0.15% of their income on under-developed countries ,Luxemburg give the most at 1%!
3. It would take the same amount of money to cure malaria in the 3rd world countries as USA are spending in only 1,5 days in Iraq! :(
This should give you some idea of the situation. But what remains is that western governments really dont understand the magnitude of this problem, like Jeffrey Sachs said this problem is actually easily solvable but western governments really dont give 2 shits about whats going on in 3rd world countries. The root of the problem is Western Civilizations SICK value and use of money. The world just doesnt think collectively anymore, its anyone for themselves as we pride ourselves in mediocrity and arrogance.
Its cunts like Promo here who promote this sick delusive thinking to the world.
Addi b has spoken
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-09-23 10:20 [#00874814]
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may I point out that there is a slight difference between Greece and the USA! Greece is a. not doing too well economically at the moment and b. was still considered a 'developing country' 3 or 4 years ago. Bad use of statistics. The role of the USA in the context of aiding under-developped countries is vastly more significant than Greece. Lol
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-09-23 10:23 [#00874821]
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Also you are basically saying capitalism is shit, which it is but until someone can successfully implement communism (ie. until humans are no longer selfish creatures that only care for their own well-being) that's unfortunately what we're lumped with... :(
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AK47
on 2003-09-23 12:20 [#00874964]
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I found this article might be helpful to make sense out of - the big picture if you will.
History of America's involvement in Africa
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-23 12:24 [#00874971]
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jonesy,
Jonesy my dear fellow don't cry. I know you lost the argument but its ok, everything is going to be ok.
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AK47
on 2003-09-23 12:38 [#00874987]
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No he is just a racist, plain and simple
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ThisIsntMusic
from Long Island, NY (United States) on 2003-09-23 12:50 [#00874992]
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Well its obvious promo is just trying to piss us off, why, who knows. He's either being sarcastic or just a dick.
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xian_ecci
from los angeles on 2003-09-23 13:13 [#00875023]
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"Fuck Gates and fuck his donation. We should be taking over the bakery not gratefully excepting the crumbs from the table of the rich."
Why don't you stick to your motto and keep it in the first person, Jones.. And while you're at it, why don't you leave your laptop and higher education behind and go fight for yourself in the 3rd world.
We all know we're blind, so no need to keep reminding us. I'm sure that once we've all got electronic neck collars ensuring every maneuver we make is promoting the almighty equality that we'll all be delighted.. Until then, boycot microsoft, join unicef, cut the hypocrisy and give me a fucking break. the man helped develop software that many people utilize, pays more in taxes that any of us will ever make, and is making a big donation. could he do more? sure. is he a just and noble man? probably not. he worked hard and got payed more than he should have because now everyone's gotta have their computers.
And if you're one of the wankers programming dirty junkmail in order to defeat the evil Gates and 'take over the bakery', Blow me because now I got to clean out my hardrive once a week.
Work your ideas and stop bitching.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-09-23 13:30 [#00875052]
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I think he's just being a dick to stir up a bit of controversy.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-09-23 13:34 [#00875057]
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so joney you use linux/unix then right?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-09-23 14:00 [#00875091]
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wild thread!
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-23 14:07 [#00875099]
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I believe very much in helping out 3rd World countries, absolutely. Am very passionate about it in fact. I see a good future, but the future has to be based on commerce and trade. I have a lot of positive ideas as to how we can push forward 3rd world countries into a more prosperous age where the people enjoy a more respectable way of living. It would be one of my upmost priorities in fact if I was running the show.
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