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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 09:47 [#00834832]
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heheh
nah
you'll find her....it just might take time
hang in there man
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-24 09:55 [#00834835]
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i dont like drink. i dont like clubbing im not a slut [anymore] i dont like football im not gay im in a great relationship, we share interests, we go out to cultural places, cinema and abroad. We dont go out and get pissed off our faces. I used to do drugs, but i dont now. I just turned 22. You are not weird.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 09:58 [#00834838]
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congrats on your relationship :)
hope it's a very long lasting one
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-08-24 10:01 [#00834840]
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yr not weird. and that's unfortunate. because i'd much rather yr attitudes toward sex were extraordinary.
> i guess it just disappoints me that it seems the future generation is going to have no concept of what things such as love and respect and morals are
blah, blah, blah, 'kids these days', you wanker. your values are a reflection of the selfsame christian flight from sexuality and denial of life. consensual sex is wonderful & intimate & FUN with or without love. how dare you condemn it (and condemn others) when you've never even tried? you have, at your age and with your experience, no clue what sex is about.
> i'm live by that code so much that i hate the word sex. it just strips away all of the emotion and feeling from the actual act
again, how the fuck would you know? well, this attitude is just the product of you quivering in your briefs, feeling insecure. most of the kids around you are happily shagging, and this is a moralizing footstool you can stand on and wag your finger at others and feel saintly as opposed to rejected. you would 'never demean yourself'.. give me a fucking break.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:04 [#00834842]
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okay, for one, i'm not fukcing christian
in fact, i have no religion, or faith at all
and two, what is wrong with thinking that "sex" should be done with love?
i wasn't condemning anyone, i was just giving out my opinion, as you are
btw, i didn't realise they used to word wanker over there, are you originally from Canada?
i only ask as its usually a british thing
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:04 [#00834843]
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damn im having really bad typo defects today, please excuse me
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xceque
on 2003-08-24 10:06 [#00834845]
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Haha! There's always someone who get's worked up about someone else's viewpoint. Surprised this one took so long. And fair enough, after all, it's your viewpoint.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-08-24 10:07 [#00834846]
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'i can see nothing further than this land & christianity' ---
oh, the woeful bit is that you are too a christian, regardless of your faith or lack thereof -- all their puritan, life-denying values seeped into you.
you wanker.
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xceque
on 2003-08-24 10:09 [#00834847]
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I have to agree that sex without love may be fun, but it's not a patch on "making love" when you're in love.
I just knew someone would think that "oh you're standing on this moral high ground cos you have to justify your inability to get sex", well if you just open your mind, just a little teensy bit wider, maybe you can see that some people genuinely have had different experiences than you.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:11 [#00834850]
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hey man, fuck you
dont you dare fucking call me something i aint, okay?
yeah, i might be a wanker (in the derogatory sense of the word, not literal..lol)
but i ain't no fucking christian
if i was a christian i would believe in sex only after marriage, which is bullshit
okay, i'm sorry that i seem to have offended you, but i don't think i've done or said anything in this post which justifies you calling me a christian
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-08-24 10:12 [#00834851]
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hahahaha...fuckin hell I just laughed out loud...comes to something when being called a wanker is ll well and good but christian...man...fuck that...I ain't no christian man.
Didn't you say before you don't masturbate? Because you aren't a wanker either in that case.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-24 10:13 [#00834853]
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hes just yanking your crank oscillik
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-24 10:14 [#00834854]
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pfft, you're ALL weirdos. just not weird enough ;)
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:14 [#00834855]
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that's what i said
IMO there's two meanings for wanker
1. someone who masturbates
or
2. someone who is a prat, dickhead, etc etc etc
i was agreeing that yeah, i probably am a dickhead, wanker, prat, etc etc etc
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-08-24 10:14 [#00834856]
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but calling him a Christian...that is some fucked up shit. They should be handing out permanent bans for saying stuff like that.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-08-24 10:15 [#00834859]
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Oh yeah i see your point :D!
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-08-24 10:16 [#00834861]
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xceque, i agree absolutely -- sex with love etc. is great, and nothing is a substitute. i am just so incredulous that someone could so condemn an act they've never tried & that doesn't hurt anyone (au contraire).
and oscillik -- you don't masturbate, either? sucks for you + and your friend.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:16 [#00834862]
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i dunno so much...it sound pretty serious to me
nothing jovial in that post i can tell thee
(and don't take my usage of the word thee as my faith - i watch Bo Selecta, and i like taking the piss outta Craig David, okay?)
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-08-24 10:17 [#00834866]
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"and oscillik -- you don't masturbate, either? sucks for you
+ and your friend. "
That's a very generous offer you are making there.
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kurrrak
from Bialystok (Poland) on 2003-08-24 10:18 [#00834868]
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you may drink or not you may smoke or not yoy may be vegetarin or not even though you will have the same problems as everyone
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xceque
on 2003-08-24 10:18 [#00834869]
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*chortles*
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:19 [#00834870]
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oh au contraire
if i was bashing anybody in my post, i was bashing those who deceive their partners by swearing to their faces that they love them, and then the next second fucking the person they see at a club
it happened to me and it hurt me
don't blame me for having a vested complication with something like that, okay?
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-08-24 10:20 [#00834873]
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just so long as you admit it's a vested complication.
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xceque
on 2003-08-24 10:22 [#00834874]
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When I was much younger I used to use vests to wank into.
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xceque
on 2003-08-24 10:22 [#00834875]
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er, maybe I shouldn't have said that.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-08-24 10:23 [#00834876]
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haha, did you really? i was never a big prop man myself, but maybe i'm missing out.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:24 [#00834878]
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lol
:)
yeah, it's a gested complication
i admit, i worded things wrong, and i fucked up what i meant to say originally
i never meant for my post to bash people who like to live what i would consider a 'wild' life
and i never said that it would be fun, because i imagine it would be fun, but i'm not the kind of person to do that.
id need to be with someone who genuinely cared about me and who loved me to be able to do things which to me are very intimate and personal.
in actuallity people who can let go of their inhibitions are probably better people for it, as they would have no problem speaking their mind, etc etc etc
i don't have a problem speaking my mind and stuff like that, it's just that some things...to me anyways...are meant for one person, and that will always be the person i love, and who loves me too
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-08-24 10:24 [#00834879]
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:D I used my girlfriends bra once when I woke up in the middle of the night and we were camping with her parents in Wales. When she woke up on the morning she put the bra on and started complaining because one of the cups was soggy :S
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:24 [#00834880]
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lol
understatement of the year i'm guessing???
heheheh
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:25 [#00834881]
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that's a fucking classic story
heheheh
did you suggest that it was tree sap or something?
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-08-24 10:26 [#00834883]
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listen, i imagine bungee jumping can be fun, but it's not my thing. so if loveless romps are not yr thing, that's okay. but when you start weeping for the moral degeneracy that infects our generation, etc, etc..
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-08-24 10:26 [#00834884]
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No I told her the truth and she said I should have just woken her.
Moral of the story...don't cum in your girlfriends bra when you have the chance for more.
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kurrrak
from Bialystok (Poland) on 2003-08-24 10:26 [#00834885]
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had you ever been afraid of falling into a closet shell when you were young?
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xceque
on 2003-08-24 10:27 [#00834886]
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Good advice for anyone, I feel.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:29 [#00834888]
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lol
some people think that stapling their testicular sacs to hardwood tables is fun too
but i don't
and i'm sorry, but i'm not gonna try that either!!!
i guess what i was trying to say is that it's almost as if there are no pleasantries about anymore.
if i was to walk into a shop to buy my groceries, and i said hello to the shopkeeper, smiled, and asked how their day was going etc etc etc, they'd think i was a weirdo or something just for taking the time out to consider someone elses day
do you get what i mean?
or have i just totally fucked that one up too :(
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:29 [#00834889]
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lol
i'll second that
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-08-24 10:33 [#00834895]
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yeah, i think i understand you -- i just don't see why you're linking a phenomenon of increasing disconnection from our peers to casual sex?
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:35 [#00834898]
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no, with that i was on about you know, getting burned
:)
anyways, you didn't answer my query...are you originally from canada because i always thought wanker was a british saying
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-08-24 10:37 [#00834899]
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i've moved around all my life, so my english is a hybrid of dialects. born in israel, actually.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:39 [#00834900]
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woah, bit of a trek
i guess you've come into contact with many cultures then
:)
has it been interesting?
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xceque
on 2003-08-24 10:40 [#00834901]
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The original post concerned the growing "lad culture" rather than sexual mores specifically. Though attitudes towards casual sex and away from commitment to lastining meaningful relationships is part of the problem. But not a huge part. In fact, none of the problems are huge ones, but there's many and they all add up.
There's less respect for people's own ways, more intolerance, less seriousness towards marriage and family, less respect for other's property etc. It all helps wear down. Urban life in particular, with lots of street crime. And these dubious attitudes are passed down from parent to child who grow up to pass to their own children, and each time the morality slips a little more.
Ok, you may now shoot me for sounding like my dad.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-08-24 10:41 [#00834902]
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yeah, it's been a bit of a wild ride. interesting, absolutely. i just envy people who have a concept of 'home'.. i.e., you put down your bags and feel like you're home. i'm kindof addicted to moving around. hoping to transfer to uni in belgium after this schoolyear coming up.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:42 [#00834904]
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yes, that's what i was on about!!!
thank you for re-iterating what i meant
:)
btw, what game is that screenshot from?
i used to spend days playing that game, but i can't remember what it was
it was brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i love Atari
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-08-24 10:42 [#00834905]
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what about you, originally from the uk or moved around, too?
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:43 [#00834906]
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you mean there's nowhere at all that you feel "at home"?
:(
i'm really sorry
i hope that one day you can find somewhere that you can find worthy of calling your home
it's a nice concept to hold onto
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:44 [#00834907]
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yeah, uk, but moved around
originally from Essex, in the south east of England, then up to the north west...Widnes, Cheshire.....then the middle, Birmingham, and now back in Widnes
i'm hoping to move to Burton On Trent (not far from Birmingham) that's where my girlfriend is, and what i consider to be my home
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-08-24 10:48 [#00834911]
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humph, maybe. but the wane of lifelong monogamy is in part the result of the institution historically being very exclusionary + burdened with ancient opressions. i'd wager i'm just as pissed off as oscillik is at the prevelant attitude that sex OUGHT to be 'meaningless', that emotional involvement and commitment is 'uncool'. yeah, i see what you mean.
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xceque
on 2003-08-24 10:53 [#00834916]
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It was called Adventure. It was a fantastic game for it's day. That level where you could only see part of the maze for a few pixels around you freaked me out.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:54 [#00834917]
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here's an example, a story
i met my beloved whilst i was in college.
Now, this college is Halton College in Widnes....the mainstay of which is Liverpudlians, or Widnesians or people from Runcorn....anyways, at the kind of age range we're talking about (16-20) the attitude is very "laddish"
I was going to see my girlfriend for the first time in months, it's a two hour coach ride away. I wanted to buy her a rose, because she had told me on a previous occasion that she had never been bought a rose, and that she would really like one. So I bought her the rose.
Trouble is, i had to go to college in the morning. The coach was at 12 noon.
I had to walk around college with a rose in my hand. Now if you've ever bought a rose you'd know that they're not exactly discreet things, they're quite long, and with the wrapping and whatnot on it, it's a big advertisment to say "i'm in love"
the amount of abuse i got from people was obscene
just because i was carrying around a symbol of love, i was being segregated and mocked
:(
i don't regret it, i'd walk thru coal, and i would "staple my nads to a desk" if it was the only way to prove to my beloved that i loved her
it's just that.....well, there was no need for that abuse
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-08-24 10:55 [#00834918]
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oh mad!!!
you've just brought back lots of memories
:)
ahh nostalgia
is that an emulator??
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