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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-27 19:50 [#00796064]
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Vader needs to regenerate, as can be clearly seen in Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back.
isn't he sitting in some kind of regeneration chamber, all plugged in when the Emperor calls him via holophone?
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-07-27 19:51 [#00796066]
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Uh, Drac has to regenerate too. That's what the coffin is for.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-27 19:55 [#00796071]
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I know.
but everybody seemed to have the idea that Vader doesn't need sleep.
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-07-27 19:59 [#00796078]
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Oh yeah. There's still a man inside all that black machinery...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-27 20:02 [#00796086]
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yes. and a father, even.
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-07-27 20:04 [#00796093]
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Yeah, but that was before all the "enhancements". Then he became the dark, sleek, admiral-choking, ladies' man we all know and hate...
;)
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-07-27 21:14 [#00796170]
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the bear vs. shark conundrum was not at all subjective. i believe i solved that one once and for all. but, to reiterate, they both would die from the enjuries they would recieve.
this whole darth vs. dracula issue is a much more complex question.
i find it hard to believe that dracula would have much of an interest in the blood of darth vadar, unless he was very hard up. but, simply for the sake of argument i'll consider this quandry whilst i sleep tonight.
no doubt the answer will come to me.
i bid you good evening.
*disappears in a cloud of grey fog*
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-27 21:19 [#00796174]
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it's a tough call - the force is strong, yes, but if the vampire mythos are true, then you would need one of the following to kill a vampire:
a)garlic b)holy water c)a crucifix d)a wooden stake e)a silver bullet (and no, it's not just werewolves)
it would be a hell of a fight.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-07-27 21:19 [#00796175]
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Jesus, aren't you people listening? Once Dracula turns Vader, Vader becomes his minion. It isn't because he's thirsty or into large men in black plastic bodysuits. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-27 22:15 [#00796199]
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actually, I think Vader being a father would be his weak point - as it is his ultimate downfall and thereby his salvation in the films.
his humanity kills him.
thing about Dracula is, he's already dead anyway. that MUST give you an edge, even if only a dead psychological one.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-11-19 04:01 [#02253407]
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Before you can have Vader and Dracula co-existing and then fighting in the same universe, you have to reconcile how each gets their powers to see if it can even work, not only which will be superior.
Vader gets his powers from the force, the all powerful energy field that binds all things. He uses the dark side of the force, (which from my understanding its not just that the user is evil and distorts an otherwise good or neutral force, but that there is actually a dark side to the force itself).
In the '92 film, Dracula becomes a vampire and gets his power when he renounces the church and God in his anger, and is cursed. The curse causes his vampirism and it is implied that his powers come from his communion with hell. In the novel, however, he is a sorcerer and necromancer before he becomes a vampire. He uses his knowledge of the black arts to cheat death by becoming undead. This is why he has powers like shape shifting, turning into mist, causing storms, etc. that other vampires do not. ref
The necromancer origin for Dracula would work much easier than getting too far into something related to the church, God, hell, the devil etc. because those ideas conflict with the Force. Black magic, however, can be generalized.
I may have a short outline to follow.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-19 04:24 [#02253409]
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The force became stupid when they pseudoscienced it with 'metachnorians'. Then again, which star wars element didn't become stupid in the prequels? Really this whole battle depends on which version of Darth Vader does battle. If the retard prequel "Noooooooooooooo!" version, then certainly Dracula would win. Vice versa if the late 1970's version. And the same results if you substitute Dracula with Count Chocula.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-11-19 04:29 [#02253410]
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pt 1 Following the dual with Obi 1 Kenobe on the first Death Star, Darth Vader was intrigued by what he sensed had happened in the Force when his old master suddenly dematerialized as he was delivering the death blow. He was able to sense that Obi 1 had absorbed himself into the Force, and that he still had his identity. This was true, of course, as old Ben had been preparing for this with the ghost of his former mentor, Qui gon Jin.
As Darth Vader pondered this, his thoughts once again turned to Padme, the wife whom he once thought he could save by using the unnatural arts of the dark side. Even now, as a master Sith lord he was no closer to having that knowledge than he had been 20 years ago, and Padme had been gone so long as well. Yet, if someone were able to maintain their identity in the force, could not one's identity be reclaimed from the force? Could my dear Padme yet be saved?
Mayhap this technique of the Jedi could be combined with the teachings of the legendary Darth Plagueis to bring Padme back from the force and also restore her life..
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2008-11-19 05:09 [#02253413]
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Since Dracula isn't real (he's a fictional character, check it up), Darth would just be hitting air with his light saber! Poor man.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-11-19 05:15 [#02253415]
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Later, Darth Vader discovered a hidden library in the Emperor's estate on Coruscant. In the library he discovered a book labeled The Memoirs of Darth Plagueis the Wise. Palpatine had always told him that no such writing existed, yet it appeared he had lied. Vader spent the next several weeks reading over the writings of this great Sith Lord, much of which was focused on his obsession with cheating death and even creating life. He eventually came to a chapter where Plagueis spoke about a very powerful user of the dark side who, in the future, was able to cheat death.
One night, while meditating in the dark side, I beheld a vision of the distant future. I saw, in a place called Transylvania, a being who is also a master of the dark side, though he does not call it such. I saw that he was able to cheat death, and gain immortality and great power while becoming truly a unique being of the dark side. He is of noble blood, and his name is Count Dracula.
Vader reads on to discover that Plagueis was trying to find a way to use the force to commune with this Lord Dracula, and learn his secret. This is where the book abruptly ends, as Palpatine killed Plagueis at that time, out of fear that this Dracula was to replace him as the apprentice.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-11-19 05:18 [#02253416]
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So then Vader starts trying to figure this out, but you know who comes along and kicks everyone's ass? Batman. Batman does not have any powers, and he doesn't even need them. It doesn't matter if you have powers either, because he will still think of a way to kick your ass.
So, Batman is hanging out in the Batcave when Martian Manhunter calls him up and tells him that the cosmos is off balance and it's because Vader is trying to commune with Dracula. Batman gets Green Lantern to give him a ride to Coruscant where he immediately begins kicking Vader's ass. Batman pwns Vader, then kicks the Emperors ass and ties them both up and leaves them for Gordon. Then he reads the force shit himself, and figures out how to teleport to Transylvania where he immediately kicks Dracula's ass, ties him up, and leaves him for Gordon.
He then puts the lightsaber and amulet in his utility belt and fucks off the end.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-19 05:38 [#02253419]
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Did he fuck off the end of the lightsaber, amulet or utility belt? And if the lightsaber, which end; the glowing part or the handle? Thnx.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-11-19 05:53 [#02253422]
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Let's just say when Batman entered the room where the 3 vampire wives slept, all he had on was his mask and the amulet, and he had some unruly plans for the lightsaber.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-11-19 06:19 [#02253425]
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why can't vader just cripple him into a pretzel with his mind powers, making dracula sniff his own willy before he dies?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-19 06:56 [#02253428]
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All dracula needs is some chicken and watermelon. James Earl Jones will be so distracted that Darth Vader will lose his power to control the force.
Now, Gmork vs. Darth Vader, that could be interesting. One controls the force and one controls the nothing.
I can't believe that out of all the star wars movies, not one person has been fucked with a light saber. That material should really write itself.
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freqy
on 2008-11-19 08:19 [#02253442]
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its obvious, vader in his tie fighter v dracular in bat form
bat has sonar so can seek out vader in the dark, vader gets all confused smashes into lucas's house and chewie who was having tea there runs over and helps beat the smell out of vader for putting han in carbofreeze.
dracular in bat form wins
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-19 08:58 [#02253457]
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But sonar, not to mention wings or lungs, shouldn't work in space due to the vacuum, which makes me wonder why tie fighters always made a NNNEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH sound. Maybe the bat could hold its breath and crawl to that vulnerable part of the death star then gnaw the wiring while darth vader is inside. That would result in a tie though. Actually given the bats smaller body size, maybe it would incinerate and die a microsecond quicker thus making Vader the technical winner.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-11-19 09:39 [#02253464]
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I miss that side of fleetmouse.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2008-11-19 13:41 [#02253520]
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it seems very hard to choose
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-11-21 02:20 [#02254002]
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