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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-05-24 20:32 [#00713492]
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The media, especially the music press, need a "leader" of a certain genre, to have a reference - because most of them don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about.
But there was a time, when there was just RDJ.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-05-24 20:34 [#00713494]
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not really....
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-24 20:37 [#00713496]
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aphex is my fave electronic artist of all time but i don't think he's the best.. he really does have insanely good PR, maybe it's all fallen in his lap so to speak or maybe it's calculated, but the aphex twin marketing is pure genius.. combine that with his musical brilliance (challenge me otherwise on this) and that's why to so many of us he seems like such a god. it also helps that a lot of you don't listen to much else...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-24 20:42 [#00713499]
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well lets see, I think there are a few main reasons for his success above and beyond other great electronic artists!!
First there is his persona... there are so many stories and rumors and all that going on about him, that it just makes him interesting... you hear about SAW85-92 and how he recorded some of it at age 14, and you're interested in hearing it to see if it's any good... and all the other rumors that you hear about when you research about his stuff... so yeah, all this stuff makes him interesting!!
Then, there is his music... personally I think his music is pretty poppy... relative to Autechre say... I think his killer melodies, along with his great production skills make his music poppier then other stuff... now, because of his use of manic percussion and lack of vocals you ain't gonna hear it on the radio, or see it on tv, but still... and really, I think Aphex is really just a step below major popularity... it seems that for anyone getting into IDM, he's the first one to start with, so he's fairly well known...
also, he's been around for ages... a little longer then Autechre I guess, as far as releases go, so it can probably be argued that Autechre were influenced by Aphex Twin, and not the other way around...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-24 20:50 [#00713507]
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it's definitely not all from his music though... he's done an excellent job of marketing himself, whether it has been planned or not, and that has played a major role I think...
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nacmat
on 2003-05-25 04:55 [#00713693]
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come on tits... I am sure we all listen to lots of diferent stuff... maybe not thousands like you but some hundreds at least
we all got here after a long music trip across many varied genres... why do you think some of us just listen to him?
look at the now playing thread... its obvious that the great % of posts are about aphex but there is tons of diferent music there.
Funk_master: your post was a nice summary of many dispersed ideas we all had in our minds and posted in this thread but needed to be put together
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nacmat
on 2003-05-25 04:58 [#00713694]
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so we have his persona, the mistery around him and his aliases, the marketing he uses (his face and logo) his varied and high quality music, his skills for melody, the interests of media itself, his good friends (cunningham, glass...)...
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-05-25 08:31 [#00713805]
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i see him as a normal guy
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nacmat
on 2003-05-25 08:40 [#00713819]
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of course he is a normal guy... but one with a gifted mind
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-25 08:43 [#00713825]
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thats because you're not normal as well! :D
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-05-25 08:51 [#00713840]
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when i was first introduced to him (windowlicker) i was so astounded by this enigma, i wanted to know who or what he was. theres was so much mystery
but now after knowing a little bit more about him that mystery has gone sadly
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nacmat
on 2003-05-25 09:04 [#00713856]
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date of aphex first release known? date of ae first release known? date of uziq first release known? date of boc first release known?
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nacmat
on 2003-05-25 09:13 [#00713871]
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and how can I know what is it what I am listening if the tracks dont appear in my winamp player...just one track called: xltronic vibes vol x
I have the track listing in front of me, but how can I know when the track ends and starts?
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nacmat
on 2003-05-25 09:13 [#00713873]
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shit sorry I mistook the thread
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nacmat
on 2003-05-26 05:49 [#00715068]
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ok, here is another example of what I am talking about richard:
what happened in the bjork concert. all the bjork fans were totally pissed off by his set... and we just love that it happened that way... we were missing his crazyness and the way he is watched as a strange mad man by the rest of the music scene
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-05-26 08:09 [#00715130]
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i haven't anything to say that hasn't already been said but i do think it has to do with the face + the music. but not just his face, it's the mask of his face, smile and all, that catches people attention. then the music just blows your mind!
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snAre
from .oO Ghent Oo. (Belgium) on 2003-05-26 09:53 [#00715222]
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! M A R K E T I N G !
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-26 09:58 [#00715226]
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if his marketing would be capable...he would be the most popular artist on the planet...he's not even close to that
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-05-26 10:02 [#00715232]
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everyone just bought his cds because they thought he was so damn attractive on the window licker cover
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-05-26 10:13 [#00715247]
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His music isn't acceptable enough for everyone to be the most popular on this planet.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-26 10:18 [#00715253]
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definitely not all his music but there are plenty of his tunes that people who are not into electronic music seem to like very much...ofcourse i was exaggerating saying he'd be the most poopular guy, but definitely a lot more people would know about him
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nacmat
on 2003-05-26 10:20 [#00715257]
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if his music were played on radio all time 24/7... then I am sure millions and millions of people would like it
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-26 10:21 [#00715262]
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hmm, i think that would turn me off of him :D
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-05-26 10:22 [#00715265]
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Maybe, I'm not sure. I mean, when I'm at home playign druckqs most of my family members don't know what f*ck's going on. Maybe it's because they're not used to it or so.
I agree that he has off course more accesible material than that, but i'm not sure wether everyone would like it.
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nacmat
on 2003-05-26 10:27 [#00715269]
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"which is difficult, cos idm fans usually look for the unknown artist, the non popular ones... we dont like feeling
fans of a popular band... we like to feel like an elite "
its always down to MUSIC for me (no matter how popular one is)
remember tolstoyed?
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-05-26 10:28 [#00715271]
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Correct, no matter how popular for instance radiohead (a band frequently listened to by me) gets, as long as the music is good, I'll listen to it.
If Britney Spears would make a good song for my taste (now this is very unlikely to happen, maybe it's my taste) then I will listen to it.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-26 10:30 [#00715275]
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hehe, yeah, i had a feeling you might ask that...i mean i would be turned off of his music if i'd be listening to it 24/7...every time i'd turn on the radio and hear his tune...perhaps it would work the first 10 years but i think i'd get tired after that
and i would love to see more apreciation from people for rdjs music-that wouldnt put me off at all!
:D
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