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what is it that attracks so many people?... why is he so far ahead of the rest?... I mean, this days I am having autechre only listening days... I love autechre, many times I think I prefer autechre to richard... but thats not the point, what I am trying to say is: why is he so much more attractive as a phenomenon than the others?. many could have diferent ideas about who is better: him, ae, []pusher, orbital, fsol, the orb, boc, plaid, uziq.... but nobody can deny the fact that he is the one that has caused more fan attraction, more websites, I mean if autechre were in second place or even tied in music skills, they are still far away in websites dedicated, or articles written, or influence made towards other musicians. maybe I am wrong, but what do you think? _________________________________ 2nd thought: _________________________________ he is not much older than me... I was born in 1975 and he was born in 1971 (me thinks)... but look at him and look at me... how did he do so many things in such little time in 1991 he did the analogue bubblebath 1... that woul be like 1995 for me (same age as him in 1991)... well in 1995 I was just a young architecture student in his 2nd year of college... but I had done nothing, but look at what he´s done since then... I have almost done nothing... man... ma I spoiling my time?... I must change. |
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I had a dream last night that I talked on AIM with him. it was interesting. |
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oh he just made it thru to commercial telly thats all, i think :) |
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good pr |
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dont get me wrong... I am not saying that popularity means being better but why is he more popular? |
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no worries nacho there's no reason to believe he's any better than you. we all are experts at different things. besides, what does he know about architecture? ;) |
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No, I think his sheer volume of work and the consistency of quality is what makes him ahead of the rest... plus he's been doing it a loooong time. |
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HIS FACE. He puts it EVERYWHERE. You know him because you know his face... it may contribute to his legendary status. Even people that don't know him might know the ''RDJ face'', or at least be intrigued by that and the his Windowlicker/Drukq mutant people. And yet despite everyone knowing what he looks like, he's such an enigam anyway... a master of the media game, methinks. |
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he's an legend! i remember i read in an interview with one of our domestic dj's and journalist asked him what will he produce in the future; he replied i cant discover anything that RDJ didnt discover already! i got AB4 yesterday - i only heard elephant song before, but the second track totally blew me...it happened every time with every new (to me) release i heard by him...he really is a genius... and another thing...its enough to tell he's amazing if you see him live (whether djing or doing live stuff), he's just better than all the other acts (could be just me tho)... he's totally devoted to music, doing the stuff he likes and there's no way people or media can overlook what he's doing |
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FUCK ''enigam'' = ENIGMA A Man of Mythtery |
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The work by Cunnigham and Des. Republic obviously helps create the "enigma" image... but before all that there was still SAW 1 and Polygon Window, On etc etc... pure quality. |
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he's totally devoted to music, doing the stuff he likes and there's no way people or media can overlook what he's doing that's what's most important; doing what pleases you. |
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nice posts here indeed... I didnt know really what I wanted to talk about exactly, I just felt that I had to give some thought on Richard as a person, as a musician and as social phenomenon. I agree about him being a master of the media game (thanks ophecks)... but why arent autechre masters in that too? the face thing is important maybe...in fact its like an Icon, but I dont think that can mean such a diference, not when we are talking also about a huge duo such as AE, they have done tones of genious music too, even more solid than richard...but even so, he seems to be much more respected, feared and admired |
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richards music has more variety than autechre's... and also, i dont think media takes autechre's music too seriously - they never made any tracks that would suit wider audience tho (like aphex did with saw1 or windowlicker...) + from what i've read their live shows are nothing like the rdj is doing (i cant confirm that tho, as i never saw them live...) |
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i think it also has a lot to do with how accessible richard's music is to the average person - it is a lot easier for a typical person that listens to dance and rave music - to go into a record store and pick up saw85-92 and enjoy it - but if that same person went and picked up LP5 - they probably couldnt stand it - aphex is the pop of orginal electronic music and i think thats what makes him so popular - that plus the huge amounts of publicity behind him |
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ugh - i took too long to type :P |
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Face it, Aphex Twin is better than all the other so called "idm" acts put together |
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i see your point anyway I dont want this to get into an ae vs aphex thread I just gave ae as an example of similar artists in quality or long and solid career... whatever... I know that some of us may not like autechre so much, or in the case of uziq or the pusher or anyother example... about music quality we can just move leaded by our music taste... but there is something we all must agree on, and it is the fact of richard being the king of the idm popularity. which is difficult, cos idm fans usually look for the unknown artist, the non popular ones... we dont like feeling fans of a popular band... we like to feel like an elite (someitmes not always)... but even so we all take richard as the king |
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his face (album covers), his logo and name (i got attracted by his name first before hearing anything by him, already the name "aphex twin" sounds so good and the logo is great too), his personality, his legendary tank and laziness... and seems to be capable to do anything he wants electronicmusically, he can do so much different things (Autechre isn't as much varied as him, BoC is miles and miles and miles away, only Squarepusher could reach but still). and, well, for 7\ vs. Ae, 7\ is easier to get into. (but in record stores, you can find approximately as much Ae than 7\...) |
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another thing i have noticed... richard had more tracks that were stuck in my mind - or that did impression the first time i've heard them (come to daddy, ventolin, windowlicker,...), that never was the case with autechre...i listened to them even before i was into aphex but it was just one of the many electronic acts for me...nothing exceptional, non of the track were stuck in my head...i think this also has to do with people that dont follow electronica and their perception of autechre and RDJ |
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i completely agree with what you're saying...except for this part: "which is difficult, cos idm fans usually look for the unknown artist, the non popular ones... we dont like feeling fans of a popular band... we like to feel like an elite " its always down to MUSIC for me (no matter how popular one is) |
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Atmosphere, humour, darkness, lightness, melody, micro-programming, poppy crossover, originality, production values, obscure aliases, track titles, videos, artwork... the lot! |
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It has got some to do with being accessible. and also with media attention. Reading interviews, with him talking about his vehicle and so on, you just want to know more about this "freak" (not negatively meant). And maybe: which other artist has done so much in such short notice? Maybe it also has something to do with the fact that he has done stuff under different names? Ae have Gescom, but that's totally different music and not only them. I don't know actually, just guessing. |
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I know but note that I wrote at the end: (sometimes, not always) I care about music, and not popularity (as bad or as good)... if not I wouldnt love the beatles but in some way we search for something diferent, something that surprises us.... and things that are already popular can hardly surprise maybe this is the point: even though he is popular, richard still surprises us... he is still inventing the future for us |
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"maybe this is the point: even though he is popular, richard still surprises us... he is still inventing the future for us " this is an excellent point!! |
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i met him 3 times at ATP and the guy is as normal as the rest of us on the surface....... overall he´s got a combination of talent and "nothings ever gonna stop me doing exactly what i want " attitude. While the rest us plod along, unsure of our skills, behaviour with others and all that, RDJ seems to just be 100 percent fucking sure of himself all the time withouit being an arrogant cunt. We can all do it but trip ourselves over with silly little obstacles. Clever marketing helps too |
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"the guy is as normal" "nothings ever gonna stop me doing exactly what i want " attitude" thats why we love him!!! |
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I never went to a live set I never heard him talking in any interview I haven really read many interviews so I cant really have any aproach to him as a person but even so, I am totally caught by his magic |
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The reason RDJ is popular is because he is more than one person. ;) Seriously that whole dead-brother thing is working out for him, he's got the hookup in the spirtual realms as well as the physical realm. |
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its interesting how he has involved his family... who knows what rob´s parent´s names are? we are all much more informed about richard´s life than anyother |
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I think Chris cunninghams videos has a lot to do with it. Before that he was strictly underground... But theres also a little magic involved, ill admit it. Hes charismatic, the devil! |
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i think it`s because his music i so unique. he is the best composer ever, so orginal, so briliant. i think he is mental about music makeing he lives with that. thats why people love him. |
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It's an interesting question. And the anwser is probably a combination of many things. The songs Come To Daddy & Windowlicker definitly got him ALOT of attention from the public (50% because of the music and 50% because of the videos). + He always shows his face (i only know what the guys behind autechre, boc, plaid, squarepusher etc look like because of their pictures on the internet. They never put their faces on their albumsleeves). But richard really brings his personality in the music. There are all these crazy stories/myths about him that get people intruiged and they want to go listen to him (he drives a tank, he lives in an old bank, he once played with sandpaper on a turntable, he forgot to remix a song and just gave away a track of his own... etc etc... we all know the stories. I think they really make people want to hear the music. The music itself isn't much more accesible i think. For the media he's probably also fun to write about (more fun than any other idm-artists... we know nothing about them besides the music. But with richard we know about his dead brother, we know how his parents are called (and what they sound like :-p)... the media just write more about him --> so more people read about him |
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i think he attracts the same ammount of listeners as a lot of contempory artists, or on the fringe at least, because well, he's good, end of. |
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music making just comes extremely naturally to him - as a man with no formal training. designing synths and modifying them etc is a rare thing. i had a dream he worked in the cafe in eastenders last night and thought how nice it was that i'd be able to see more of him extraordinary!! |
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to point 1.: Variety, Excellence, Personality, to point 2.: Dedication |
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i think him being eccentric is only a cover for the media/promotion...because afterall he seems to be a totally normal guy-a nice and friendly person... |
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thats also the impression i got, he must have had a lot of fun with the media so far. thats a good way to deal with the media anyway, you keep them somehow distant from yourself. |
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hmm, you can always beat up the journalist if media bothers you - that will distract other journalists... but yeah, i toatlly agree with you! |
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what other electronica artist cause so much attraction? such a mith? |
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That's myth, sir, not mith. Thankyou. |
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lol... sorry you are right.... |
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i think DJ SPOOKY could be one |
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I have to comment too... The reason I got interested in him was his unsurpassed (at least in that field of music) sense of harmonies and the way he almost never use sampled loops but sounds created by himself. I mean the harmonies in tracks like "Alberto Balsam" and "Flim", melodies that takes out all kinds of emotions from inside me - thats what I like about him and I have yet to hear another artist that can craft such deceptively simple sounding harmonies. |
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some of Richards friends work in english media, the person that did the cartoon in mixmag is his friend, it's a bit of fun, helped by a lot of journalists trying to get paid. You're a journalist, you need to write a page of crap about something, why not promote your friend? |
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I think thats very important to understand aphex impact... his skill with melody, harmony and emotiviness he has travelled across thousands of music landscapes and melodies and shapes... but always wiht an uncomparable harmony sense |
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aphex happened to be at the right place at the right time |
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well... someone had to be. |
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why? |
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he´s been in the right place at the right moment in the last 13 years? in the last 50 or so diferent releases? |
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