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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-05-16 15:08 [#00701488]
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that is to say, healthy-lungers can blow the ball more than halfway up the tube; 7"-12". i can blow it like 2 inches.
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-16 15:10 [#00701494]
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that sucks.
I couldn't help myself.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-05-16 15:11 [#00701497]
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but rreally do you carre?
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-16 15:12 [#00701498]
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Is blowing balls high on your priority list?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-16 18:57 [#00701771]
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Smoking supports the War on Drugs. Think about that all you cig + weed smokes.
(I dont smoke cigs btw)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-16 19:23 [#00701780]
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smoking is gross...
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-05-16 19:52 [#00701811]
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War on Drugs.. pfft.
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mimi
on 2003-05-16 23:16 [#00701935]
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well i am glad to hear that second hand smoke doesn't cause cancer, if that is actually the case anyhow. but let me just say, i reek like smoke for hours afterwards if someone is smoking in my car with all of the windows open while i'm racing down the freeway on a windy day. but, no big deal, it is a friend, i'll live through it. it would piss me off to a great extent to have to come home from WORK and wash/dry my hair, change my clothes, put my previous clothes through the wash...etc. and when it's a coworker...well, i have a hard time being agreeable and productive with a person who causes this, because, i probably don't like them much in the first place.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-05-16 23:27 [#00701938]
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fuck you all who thought it was funny
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-05-16 23:28 [#00701939]
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no wonder i don't come here anymore, most of you suck my big fat hairy one
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-17 07:50 [#00702172]
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I think ultimately, passive smoking isn't particualrly good for your health. The thing that really annoys me is that councils are so eager to accept any research that links passive smoking with cancer as fact and then introduce ridiculous no-smoking policies based round it. When some research is produced that says it doesn't cause cancer they reject it point blank and say that the research is rigged. I just want to know the truth. I don't want to affect other people's health with my smoking. I just don't know whether I am or not.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-05-17 08:58 [#00702211]
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I HATE smoking, its so retarded and a waste of money...why would anyone wanna help support the fuckheads known as altra\philip morris?!
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-05-17 09:16 [#00702228]
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Smoking is a fucking disgusting habit. Second hand smoking DOES cause Cancer, one of my old friends' granddad killed his wife through smoking throughout their marriage...
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-19 02:24 [#00704843]
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Read the article fuckwit. Then decide. Just because one of your cousin's aunties friends who used to live down the road from a girl who went to school with his big big sister died does not make it proof. One of my friends was killed by a black guy. That makes all black guys murderers using your logic, right?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-05-19 02:52 [#00704891]
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It should be noted that this research was part-funded by the tobacco industry.
And if anyone is in any doubt, remember Roy Castle RIP. No more London Marathons for that trumpet-blowing muthafucka.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-19 02:55 [#00704894]
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i didnt like it while people were smoking in the office...its a non smoking area now and im happy
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-19 03:06 [#00704908]
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I don't get the whole roy castle thing. He was BLOWING the trumpet at these clubs. Not inhaling.
Medication, medication, medication is what you need.
It was probably funded by the Tobbaco firms becuase the tobacco firms wanted a fair study into passive smoking. Unlike all the skewed reports all these anti-smoking fascists seem to produce. Also, the British Medical Journal printed the article. Are they on B&H's payroll as well?
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-05-19 03:18 [#00704929]
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Shall I tell you what annoys ME? Dodgy studies "part-funded by tobacco groups" that seem to downplay the link.....surprised? LMFAO
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-19 03:22 [#00704931]
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its fucking smelly. that puts me off.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-05-19 03:25 [#00704935]
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Oh yes, because a tobacco industry-funded study will be neutral and have knowledge and scientific integrity as its aim.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-19 03:37 [#00704941]
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"Medication, medication, medication is what you need."
I just pissed myself!
: )
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-05-19 03:39 [#00704942]
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Nappies, nappies, nappies is what you neeeeeeeeeeed.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-19 03:42 [#00704943]
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I'm not saying that they don't want the research to come to a certain conclusion. Obviously they do. But does that automatically make the results of the study false? This was the largest and longest study into passive smoking ever carried out. And the results are - it causes fucking NOTHING. All these fucking fascists who were proposing wide-scale smoking bans everywhere - pubs, restaurants, etc have had their fucking schadenfreuden grins wiped off their smug faces. You've got to pick on someone else now, you fucking fascist bastards! Passive smoking is no more dangerous than passive farting - fact.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-05-19 03:46 [#00704944]
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Move to Wales Bill, you know you want to.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2681887.stm
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-05-19 03:50 [#00704946]
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And yet soooo blatantly not a fact it's not even funny...do you know how many NON-BIASED studies have been carried out in the last few years that illustrate the link? (Clue, it's more than 1!)
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-05-19 03:54 [#00704949]
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2925633.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1919686.stm
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-05-19 04:01 [#00704955]
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And the link comes from the Times...hmmm, has uncle Rupert got a hidden agenda...? Surely not...!!
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-19 05:13 [#00705013]
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All you against tobacco,how do you feel about other drugs,alcohol ect?
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-19 05:46 [#00705043]
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There's nothing like perceived wisdom, is there?
I may have said this before but THIS IS THE BIGGEST AND LONGEST RESEARCH INTO PASSIVE SMOKING EVER! The other research is redundant - skewed results, manipulated figures, etc. This is THE definitive research and it proves there is NO LINK. NONE WHATSOEVER. This is not a rupert murdoch concoction. This is worldwide news. Look at this if you don't believe me.
There was a time when we thought the sun revolved around us and that the world was flat.
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diablo
on 2003-05-19 05:49 [#00705046]
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I can't believe passive smoking is totally harmless. But I can't believe NY banned smoking in public EVERYWHERE! What is that all about?! Crazy.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-05-19 05:53 [#00705053]
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Biggest and longest ain't necessarily best mofo; its what you do with it.
How do we know this research is valid and are we presented with the research methods used and the raw data?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-05-19 06:35 [#00705096]
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I'm going to start smoking the packs with the "low-birthweight" warning; I can deal with those ;)
(paraphrasing bill hicks)
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-19 06:40 [#00705104]
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i'm going to start smoking the pack with the "smoking causes ignorance" warnings.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-05-19 06:47 [#00705111]
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it does? :O
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-19 06:50 [#00705116]
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obviously
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-19 06:51 [#00705119]
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If you want to trawl through all the medical jargon for further clarification, here it is. Personally, I prefer the soundbites.
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-05-19 06:52 [#00705121]
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i think 2nd hand smoke is real. i get contact buzzes when my friends smoke pot around me so why wouldn't the tobacco affect me too?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-19 07:04 [#00705137]
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i don't believe passive smoking is completely harmless but neither do i understand the big deal some people make of it
personally smokers don't bother me at all, i think it's pretty silly that smoking is banned in more and more places
here in holland they want to try and ban smoking everywhere in the train
i don't get that, it works fine now imo, people who don't want to smoke go to the non-smoking part of the train, people who smoke or people who don't mind others smoking go to the smoking-part of the train
why change that?
nb i don't smoke
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-19 07:07 [#00705140]
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*but neither do i = but i don't
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-05-19 07:10 [#00705143]
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Well, you smokers can bitch about it all you want but at the end of the day, your days of freedom are numbered and I'm crossing them off on the calender with a big fat permanent marker with a big grin on my face and warmth in my heart.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-19 07:14 [#00705149]
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So you're sitting on the fence as usual, morton.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-19 07:26 [#00705159]
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hahaha i knew you would have some comment again, even now that i don't completely disagree with you (i think it's the first time that happens!) cherish this moment hicks!!!
maybe you could point out one other situation where i sat on the fence :)
i'd be surprised, 'cause i don't remember one
btw for you i'll change my opinion: some smokers do bother me, i won't name names of course ;)
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-05-19 07:30 [#00705167]
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what a load of wank
tobacco smoke contains toxins and hazardous chemicals -> inhaling it causes diseases
whats so tough to understand about it... inhaling tar vapours makes you ill as well right... even if someone else inhaled the vapours first...
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-19 08:19 [#00705248]
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Secondary smoke is as harmless as the steam from the piss you are talking.
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-05-19 08:22 [#00705253]
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a way to decide whether this is true is to smoka e a ciggerette with someone, but instead of them hitting it they inhale what you exhale. if the person gets a buzz then you are wrong. if not, then you are right?
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-19 08:26 [#00705258]
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sounds very scientific. Maybe that's where all these anti-smoking pressure groups got their ridiculous ideas from.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-05-19 08:27 [#00705260]
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explain. why?
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-05-19 08:28 [#00705261]
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so you think that's a stupid theory or you think think it's a good idea? im unclear.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-05-19 12:26 [#00705533]
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I certainly hope that these researchers are right, but tbh it sounds more like a huge scam from the tobacco industry.
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-05-20 01:52 [#00706318]
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Perceived wisdom, LOL...if you want skewed data, I suggest you actually take a look into how this "study" was conducted...not much of a scientist are you? One study with contradictory results automatically invalidates all those many others....???? LMFAO
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