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Meaning of life
 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-04-23 01:28 [#00664346]
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That's more what I was getting at, not to leave you with the
impression that I'm in denial and delusional about the real
world.


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-04-23 01:31 [#00664349]
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"i don't think christianity would work without the
promise of
an afterlife. "


mm.. didn't realise quite how thick that statement was.

but a lot of the norms people seem to adopt can be (to a
large extent) explained in the belief of an afterlife or
not.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-23 01:32 [#00664350]
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if i were religious i still wouldn't rely on the god to make
the world a better place... i will cling to the notion of
free will until i drop dead... so i guess if i was religious
i would probably be more of a deist... but really i'm not a
huge fan of western religions at all... the whole
hierarchichal thing irks me... the universe seems to more
closely resemble the circles and balance, and paradox of
eastern pantheisms...


 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-04-23 02:33 [#00664401]
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ah! the eternally perplexing question humankind has been
asking itself since it climbed down from the trees, lost the
tail (sadly) and (apart from george dubya), started looking
a little less like our less civilized, but far more
peace-loving relatives (primates, dummies!). thus, to qote
jesus: "the meaning of life is this: there is none, so make
your own damn meaning and shut your trap!"


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-04-23 02:41 [#00664408]
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basically, yeah

but it's still a fun topic to talk about when you're off
your face, innit


 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-04-23 02:56 [#00664420]
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for further information on the meaning of life, please refer
to track #8 on 'Anticon Presents: Music for the Advancement
of Hip Hop", namely
'Divine Disappointment' by Alias:

my frustration aimed at what I created
has me feeling discombobulated
I hated the boredom and so I restated entertainment for my
well-being now it
seems I made the wrong decision
my project had appeared easy but had no direction in
precision
beginner's luck
only up to recent times do I feel stuck
I'm the only one to blame for things that ran amuck I built
up
a universe that is now building me you see
technological advancement which is the creater now?
and all things to be decided
have not even once touched my hands
my quote unquote followers now constantly fill the stands
On the so-called Sabbath day
for years it's been this way
but these people can't figure out
whetehr it's the first or last day to pray
they seem to think that I'm forgiving of all which means
they have a scapegoat
if they happen to drop the ball
I've been coined various names
None of which to me are flattering
they look to me for a guidance
but to me they do not matter in my eyes
there's nothing I can do to help this situation
when they have internal conflicts with their whole
congregation
they gather every week and speak of me in song these beings
I created in this project gone terribly wrong

you all claim that
you know me
but you really don't ever forgiving
and you say of me in reality
I realy won't
from the day I gave you life
to your last anointment
you have all been nothing but divine dissapointment

so I'm now stuck to figure out
what to actually do at this point and time
these creatures think that there's an afterlife
but they spend their life benign
they killed another creature years ago
that claimed to be my son
so now they mold thier lives
after him and claim that He's the One
The one that will save them, lead them to a new breath
I hate to break it to them: "I have nothing for you after
deat


 

offline manticore from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-04-23 02:58 [#00664423]
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erm. continued:

I hate to break it to them: "I have nothing for you after
death"
so carry on if you wish unknowing
thinking breath is wind blowing
magnifying light bulb is the sun
and tears of rivers flowing
think that every bad thing that happens to you is at my
will
like bankrupcy, adultory, and the reason why others kill
go on to be mislead as you have your entire life
think that all some how reward
for all your pain and strife
"I can't control destiny"
where'd you come up with that notion?
"There's no cure for AIDS"
so don't even bother with that potion
I didn't create the disease to punish others
I didn't even make it
so if you have that frame of mind
you go ahead and break it
I'm sick and tired to feel responsiblity for all of you
ungratefuls
Unwilling to share with the starving while you enjoy all of
your platefuls
even if I had the power to help you
I wouldn't even bother
stop thinking that I love you and
stop calling me your father
I didn't plan on you evolving into this mess
with which I deal
asking for my forgiveness when you lie, cheat and steal
what the hell do you want me to do
try and save yourself
I cant help your marriage, chlldren or status of health
my problem's far away, any of your so-called devastations
like this oncoming war between the so called United Nations
I regret making all of you
You make my blood pressure climb
I wish I didn't make you
but even I cant turn back the hands of time

(chorus)

"paradise of fools!!"



 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-04-23 04:39 [#00664494]
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Everybody has their own subjective meaning of life, but
knowing what others believe is their meaning, is always
interesting, and might even change your life.

One of the goals of my life, but not the meaning (as that is
not 1 thing, but many things), is to be independent.
Not dependent/addicted on/to anything...

Most stuff that is important gets down to the "one with the
nature"-situation.
Live as close to nature as possible, and you'll find true
hapiness.
Not joking. Think about it for a while.
the key to the secret....


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-04-23 04:44 [#00664501]
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The meaning of life is to meet and face people with joy, to
care about the future is more important than to care about
the past cause it is allready done. Avoid hate, anger, and
hostility. Don't be a dork!


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-04-23 04:48 [#00664503]
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Sorry, don't avoid hate and anger. that is wrong. when you
avoid it it just becomes stronger. meet it and face it. yes
that is the way. Try to understand your anguish. accept it
for what it is.
then you will become a true ninja ;)


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-04-23 04:49 [#00664504]
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coyote...."the pursuit to learn the meaning of life" yes!
that is the way!


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-04-23 12:08 [#00664977]
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Your pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your
understanding.
-Kahlil Gibran, mystic, poet, and artist (1883-1931)

Live as close to nature as possible, and you'll find true
happiness. -key_secret

it's heartening to see such genuine, thoughtful discourse on
this issue. people who argue that "there is nothing good
about christianity," however, have a lot of explaining to
do. when they can tell me who christ is, and who he serves,
and what christianity is, then i will be ready to hear how
"there is nothing good about christianity." have many of
our so-called christian leaders failed us? absolutely.
should christ and his message be judged according to their
failures? absolutely not.

as far as christ's teachings are concerned, many people are
convinced that he baked them a cake, and that all they must
do is eat it, and they will enter the kingdom. this is
incorrect. christ communicated the recipe so that we might
each of us bake our own cake, and thereby enter the kingdom.
i hope the humor in this metaphor does not obscure the
sincere meaning.

to me, asserting that our shared reality is a "coincidence"
is a failure to accept responsibility for your existence.
you have nothing to lose but your illusions, your fear.
honestly, you have, here, nothing.

raimons, you have hit a very powerful point. you must not
suppress, repress or deny your emotions. the emotions are
consequences of your beliefs, and only by examining your
beliefs can you grow and change. do you think that you can
be a liar, and not suffer your own self deception? your
emotions are a very important tool of learning. some people
are born patient, and some must learn patience. when you
experience impatience, you follow the emotion to the belief
that is the source of your impatience. back to what
key_secret said: do the flowers in a field experience
impatience? do not be so immodest that you think you cannot
learn from a flower. a flower does not question the source
of its tremendous creative ene


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-04-23 12:11 [#00664982]
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rgy.





 

offline nacmat on 2003-04-23 12:12 [#00664984]
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meaning of life for nacmat:

no meaning... we just exist, total randomness

but what I want from life is:

love and be loved (i would like to start a family)

and also if only I could change a little of this society
with my work

it sounds mainstream but thats what I want


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-04-23 12:18 [#00664988]
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42


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-04-23 12:24 [#00665004]
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I can't believe no-one has got it yet!

life
n. pl. lives (lvz)

The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms
from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in
functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and
response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment
originating from within the organism.
The characteristic state or condition of a living organism.

Living organisms considered as a group: plant life; marine
life.
A living being, especially a person: an earthquake that
claimed hundreds of lives.
The physical, mental, and spiritual experiences that
constitute existence: the artistic life of a writer.

The interval of time between birth and death: She led a
good, long life.
The interval of time between one's birth and the present:
has had hay fever all his life.
A particular segment of one's life: my adolescent life.
The period from an occurrence until death: elected for life;
paralyzed for life.
Slang. A sentence of imprisonment lasting till death.
The time for which something exists or functions: the useful
life of a car.
A spiritual state regarded as a transcending of corporeal
death.
An account of a person's life; a biography.
Human existence, relationships, or activity in general: real
life; everyday life.

A manner of living: led a hard life.
A specific, characteristic manner of existence. Used of
inanimate objects: “Great institutions seem to have a life
of their own, independent of those who run them” (New
Republic).
The activities and interests of a particular area or realm:
musical life in New York.

A source of vitality; an animating force: She's the life of
the show.
Liveliness or vitality; animation: a face that is full of
life.

Something that actually exists regarded as a subject for an
artist: painted from life.
Actual environment or reality; nature.



 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-04-23 12:31 [#00665013]
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ah yes, the meaning of life according to the reference
section of the library! someone better ring all the
priests, philosophers and mystics and let them know they've
been wasting their time... it's all in the britannica!
: )


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-04-23 12:34 [#00665019]
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:)


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-04-23 12:34 [#00665020]
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"What are your thoughts on the meaning of life"

( )


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-04-23 12:39 [#00665037]
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to eat sugar


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-23 12:44 [#00665048]
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to me, asserting that our shared reality is a
"coincidence"
is a failure to accept responsibility for your existence.
you have nothing to lose but your illusions, your fear.
honestly, you have, here, nothing.


this is not wholly true. you do infact have something. you
have life. though your time may be brief and temporary, you
still have time to experience and learn. it is true that
in the end you will have nothing. but this is all the more
reason to relish every waking (and sleeping) moment because
it will be gone all too soon.
I believe my existence is a coincidence and so I choose to
take full advantage of this rare and fortunate event
assuming it will never happen to me again.



 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-04-23 12:47 [#00665055]
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99% of these posts arre total bullshit.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-04-23 12:48 [#00665061]
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what's the 1% of truth?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-23 12:52 [#00665067]
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what i said on page 1


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-04-23 12:57 [#00665072]
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that 99% of these posts arre total bullshit.


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-23 13:28 [#00665102]
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There's no meaning to life, but a life isn't wasted if it's
spent looking at beautiful things.


 

offline uzim on 2003-04-23 13:42 [#00665114]
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the meaning of individual lives is probably to reproduce and
form other lives, at least it seems it is meant this way,
when you look at how important sex is for us - but this is
quite lame, just to reproduce to reproduce to reproduce to
reproduce to reproduce etc. - all of this for what, after
all?


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-23 13:44 [#00665116]
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yer right!

we all know that the meaning of life is. . .

42


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-23 13:44 [#00665118]
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oops, zaphod already posted that...
please forgive my redundant arse


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-04-23 13:59 [#00665142]
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"I firmly believe that our souls are parts of cosmos
temporarily set free.

When we die, the positive energies of our souls are joining
cosmos once again,
adding to the total sum of the energies in cosmos.

While we are in this world, we have a brief moment to
participate as individual forces.
Our deeds are able to stimulate other souls, thus increasing
or decreasing their positive energies.

We can all make a difference.

Once we die, we are no longer able to apply individual
impact.
We have once again returned to the entity known as cosmos.

...Now, isn't it quite obvious, the meaning of life?"

-Thomas Danko Jr (musician)


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-04-23 14:00 [#00665144]
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haha


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-04-23 14:02 [#00665147]
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Your existence is not a "coincidence"...
The coincidence does not exist (in our physical world), it's
just a way of refering to something -you (personaly)- cannot
calculate [how it happened].
There's a reason for every cause.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-04-23 14:06 [#00665148]
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why question a religion when you dont believe in it?

its not for a non-religious person to say.

meaning of life/spirituality for me..

experiences and growing from them



 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-04-23 14:12 [#00665151]
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cool you read my post.
Living close to nature means a lot of things...
I wish more people would know what I am talking about.

If you want to be happy - question yourself (especially
the things you take for granted
!)...
You'll discover many things you thought of as "the way it
is"/normal are just lies.
The thing is once you discover yourself, which very few
people do nowadays, you'll know what to do to be happy.
If you think this sounds weird, well, then you basically
don't get it.


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-04-23 14:13 [#00665155]
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this post was a reply to
plaidzebra [#00664977]


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-04-23 14:44 [#00665197]
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Life is what you make of it, nothing more, nothing less..


 

offline nacmat on 2003-04-23 14:45 [#00665200]
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he said it


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-04-23 17:40 [#00665477]
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the meaning of life lies within the simple process of
figuring out the meaning of life. that is all.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-23 17:48 [#00665492]
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meaning of life?

religions try their hardest to answer this question.

the meaning of life is, IMHO, undefined.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-04-23 17:51 [#00665495]
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religions apply a simplistic, circular argument as to what
the meaning of life is. theirs is the ultimate subjective
approach.
in my view, "meaning" is a human view and therefore is
subjective. life is. it has no meaning.


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-04-23 17:52 [#00665497]
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the question itself implies religion. Atheists need not
answer.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-04-23 17:53 [#00665499]
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believing in a "god" and religion are two seperate things.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-23 17:56 [#00665502]
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i'm not denying there's a meaning. i just don't know what it
is. kinda like how we ponder the existence of
extraterrestrial life.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-04-23 17:57 [#00665504]
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being yourself.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-23 17:58 [#00665506]
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i like that


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-23 18:10 [#00665520]
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i guess it depends on how you define coincidence. i define
coincidence as random happenings. a product of the chaotic
nature of the physical laws of our universe.
when i say i believe my existence is a coincidence i mean to
say that though i may be the product of the physical laws of
nature, i am not the product of the deliberate act of some
higher concious being.



 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-04-23 19:56 [#00665612]
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if there is a "meaning to life" would it necessarily be
communicatable in language? in other words, can it be
comprehended by symbolic communication, or would the true
meaning be approximated outside the very experience of the
meaning of life?


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-04-23 20:00 [#00665619]
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the question presupposes as much as it demands.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-04-23 20:06 [#00665633]
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my question, or "what is the meaning of life?"


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-04-23 20:09 [#00665638]
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if it cannot be communicated in language than it would seem
that meaning is absent, as meaning is generally a subjective
approximation of something, and is usually oriented with
human language.


 


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