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offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-04-20 15:34 [#00660384]
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I don't know, I bought Confield last night, and I think it's
great... the tracks are very emotional in my opinion... Vi
Scose Poise, Cfern, Pen Expers, Uviol, are just gorgeous...
well, I guess pen expers overall is pretty noisey, but the
melody is beautiful...

hehe, I played that on the way home from work in the car...
my sister picked me up... she said it was giving her a
headache, and was stressing her out... she then went on to
say that the music seemed like some problem that needed
fixing... heh, I found that to be kinda cool...


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-20 16:37 [#00660547]
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Confield is still fun to listen to, but I'm bored of Draft.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-04-20 16:59 [#00660575]
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if you aint open for autechre then you are due for
bankruptcy...


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-04-20 17:06 [#00660597]
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At first I thought Draft 4.20 was a bunch of garbled drum
sounds until I heard 6IE.CR, this restored my faith in AE
and made me re-listen to Draft a couple more times. Its a
really great, original album, but I can also agree with
everyone else who says its not an "everyday" listening
album.

The farting noises in Reniform Puls are good for a chuckle.


 

offline Morgoth from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-20 17:16 [#00660616]
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That's the feeling most people get when listening to Ae.

I'm lucky my girlfriend is used to it by now ;-).


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-04-20 18:28 [#00660677]
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I just got my copy of Draft yesterday and have to say I like
it, mabey even more than confield. Of course there are a
few duds in there, but they're more than made up for by
sweet tracks like 6IE.CR, Roundabout, V-Proc, and Reinform
Puls. It's definetly not for everyone, and I can respect
why some would dismiss it as noise, it takes some courage to
get beyond that and hear it's true flava.


 

offline cx from Norway on 2003-04-20 18:49 [#00660701]
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the family and i had a 1 and a half hour drive hiome from
grandma yesterday, and i showed them draft over the car
stereo.
so we listened to the whole album, and my dad, who's a
musician and kinda knows his stuff, told me there was too
little sound overall, and too much repetition.

so i thought to myself, he does have a point.
i mean, how much do you have to give of yourself to like
draft?
do you have to have a mindset that tells you to like it,
maybe you're pretending and you don't know it?
but then i listened to v-proc again and discarded that
thought.

and paco, the music you're describing is called 'catchy',
it's what all 'normal' musicians strive to achieve them most
of, and what i hear from an interview with autechre, they
are trying to not achieve.


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-04-20 19:11 [#00660724]
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You never give me your money
You only give me your funny paper
and in the middle of negotiations
you break down


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$



 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2003-04-20 19:35 [#00660728]
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why are there still threads like this????


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-20 19:47 [#00660736]
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Because of a problem?


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-20 19:57 [#00660738]
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i like all ae old and new,but if i stopped likin it then i
wouldent play it anymore,thus not needin to talk about it
anymore,simple really


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-20 20:02 [#00660744]
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AE are still getting revenue from my purchases


 

offline Frag from New Jersey (United States) on 2003-04-20 20:04 [#00660746]
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It really is just a matter of taste...Not _that_ many people
could be faking it, if you really think that...Personally, I
can't stand it, but I still have a large amount of their
albums in mp3 format...I keep trying to like it, since so
many here do, but I can't...


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-20 20:13 [#00660753]
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if you dont like it fine,dont play it just for others,its
not everybodys cup of tea.but it does seem people love it or
hate it.


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-20 22:42 [#00660820]
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I won't be buying Draft eithor. I don't like any of
Autechre's new music. Incunabula & Tri-Repetea is where it
ends for me. In my opinion confield is crap, but if someone
wants to listen to then what right do I have to complain?
All a matter of opinion.


 

offline mimi on 2003-04-20 22:58 [#00660821]
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hahaha incunabula was BASICALLY their first album.......kind
of a funny way of saying it.


 

offline OK on 2003-04-20 23:19 [#00660831]
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i don't people who like ae are pretending..

but ae's music is liked because of all the wrong reasons


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-04-20 23:25 [#00660834]
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OH WOW i really opened this thread with a valid reply. fnord
modular? well i have one word for you: norwegian neo-folk.
oh but that is several words.

re: ae, i really like older ae. no need to pretend. but with
this newer stuff i don't know. i have had trouble with my
confield (i bought it just a long long time ago and at first
i didn't even have the 'idm'ear to recocnize any sorts of
pattern there, it just sounded like rattle). that makes me
not want to buy draft (also the hype here has made me sick
of it)

i have given up on forcing meself to like their or others
new albums. i listen happily to my old releases and dream
that it would be 1995 right now.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-21 00:42 [#00660870]
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pretending?????....

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

and more...

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

what that concept boils down is the thought "I don't like
this so no-one else possibly can either"....


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2003-04-21 00:53 [#00660875]
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we've got a mind reader on our hands....



 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2003-04-21 01:12 [#00660889]
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..... and his name is OK.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-21 06:09 [#00661187]
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can he bend spoons as well


 

offline AE_King from Australia on 2003-04-21 07:21 [#00661266]
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Who honestly gives a pluck if you don't want to buy ae's new
albums? Go tell your pet flea cos I'm sure it would be a
hell of a lot more interested than us...

ae own the planet, you just don't want to admit it.


 

offline gescom33 from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-21 08:02 [#00661344]
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why do people expect their fave artists to just churn out
the same shit time and time again.if you don't like the new
stuff don't fucking listen to it,sell the stuff you don't
like and start listening to the bollocks that clutters the
charts instead.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-04-21 21:14 [#00662186]
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yes, imagine the annoyance of a message board where there is
disagreement about the music being discussed. the only
alternative to ae, as i see it, it to listen to, um,
whatever is on the charts these days.


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-04-22 01:25 [#00662453]
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gescom33 from Madchester...

Hmmmm....my tiny little mind boggles...

;)

(You're absolutely right, BTW.)


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-22 01:31 [#00662460]
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hey that's my avatar from junktion's site :)
that's funny


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-04-22 01:37 [#00662469]
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He's got good taste...


 

offline nacmat on 2003-04-22 01:54 [#00662477]
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dont agree.
I will buy it

my girlfriend wanted to buy it for me, but she made a slight
mistake (hehe) and bought the gantz graf dvd, I was going to
change it but I think I will keep it and will buy the
draft7.30 when I can...
hehehe

but for sure I will buy it


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-22 02:56 [#00662530]
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Yes, I must admit, I prefer their older stuff too. Garbage
is my favourite release, Brunchusevenmx AND Vltrmx on one
CD for £4?!


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2003-04-22 16:39 [#00663848]
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There is something neat about the older stuff. It is more
straight forward techno in the traditional sense and the
abstractness lies in more subtle nuances. The new stuff is
much more overtly surreal and imo really breaks a lot of
ground. They make some extreme choices on songs like Gantz
Graff that I myself might not make but it is good that they
do and it is listenable. (There are a vast number of noise
artists out there that are anything but listenable and any
concept they were trying to accomplish ends up coming off as
self-indulgent masochism). Some people prefer more
traditional structure while others want to hear the envelope
pushed a little. What I really enjoy and what I would
generally call a great album is one that pulls off a good
transitional mix of the abstract collage stuff and then
occasionally moves into solid grooves while maintaining an
overall sense of consistant composition. I think albums
like Draft do that really well.


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-04-22 16:42 [#00663853]
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well put.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2003-04-22 16:52 [#00663872]
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There is no "emperrors new clothes" effect here.
Just people who enjoy cutting edge electronic music.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2003-04-22 16:59 [#00663883]
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what do you mean by "emperors new clothes" effect?


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-04-22 18:59 [#00664034]
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I haven't been with AE since a little bit after the
Tri-Repetae++ period.

Yet...they still get my $$. Heh, well I gotta put an end to
that.


 

offline gescom33 from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-24 13:53 [#00666971]
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i wanted an avatar......saw it......like it a
lot......cheers by the way........g


 

offline OK on 2003-04-24 22:30 [#00667496]
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with luck wou'll all realize your mistake some day.


 


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