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Draft is probably the first AE release I won't buy (along with the Ganz Graf DVD). Going by the few mp3's I've got of it and how boring and stupid Confield sounded, I doubt that there's a hidden jewel on Draft. I want to like AE, but I just can't pretend, like some of you. Recently it's just been noise. Boring noise that I can do whenever I want on my Nord Modular. The lack of any direction is just a waste of time for the listener. Still hoping for a great AE release in the future. Being the clever lads they are, this probably won't happen. -P |
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fnord modular |
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I really like Draft 7.30. |
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I like Ae's new direction accually. |
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if they aimed to please others first then they Would suck :) thats my autechre. buying it asap. |
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how is it a waste of time for the listener, when the listener is enjoying what he or she hears? |
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cap.iv is currently doing my head in. im gonna get real emotional soon as always happens. i can hear it alright.. |
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im such a tard, i cant believe i dont own it and the plaid mixes yet i love grantz_graf, it definately diff from older ae stuff autechre, you will get my $$ soon |
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it's just a matter of taste... i won't buy Draft 7.30 either but Confield was ganz gut in my opinion! |
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you're right... i AM faking it. oh, the humanity. the shame of it all. oh please, help. help me. i can't handle it. it's too much to bear. really. this is insanity. stop. i'm losing my mind. i am spiraling out of control. into an abyss i fear i shall never return from. the horror. the horror. |
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its all taste for sure but dude, why bother posting something like this? |
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well.. I haven't either.. so buy 2 while your at it ;) |
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You're right, I only pretend to like this atonal noise to pick up hot girls. |
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HA HA ! |
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PRINCO RULES !!!!! :0) |
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"I want to like AE, but I just can't pretend, like some of you." I love draft 7.30 and i'm not pretending. Does it make you feel better to think people who like it are pretending? |
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8-) yeeeeeeeeeeah! |
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he must think it's impossible for anyone on earth to like because he doesn't, and autechre just released it as a "pretend album" for people to pretend to like... it all must be a practical joke! |
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I like to waste my time and listen to things that I don't like, but say I like them so people will think I have eccentric taste. It makes me look smart. Let the intelligent vibes flow. |
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autechre might as well give up on music making right now and thank Paco for the enlightenment. they allready know they won't be to survive without the income generated from his album purchases. |
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Should I be posting here? I havent heard it yet. :/ |
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there's supposed to be an "able" in there somewhere.. |
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Listening to autechre makes me look cool and elitist! |
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you mean you can actually "listen" to these round, plastic, discs?! |
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Mostly I just put them in the CD rack so that visitors can browse through them with a puzzled expression on their face. |
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I know what he means. Draft 7.30 is a bit of a let down. They were really heading somewhere with LP5 and Confield had a certain vibe running through it, but I think Draft sounds a bit too Alien. I dunno, maybe my opinion will change, but I'm sure no-one will disagree that they should do more tracks like the first one off Peel Session. They can still make it dynamic, and ahead of it's time. The trouble with Draft is that even though all the tracks must have been put together maticulously, A lot do sound like random noise. Surripere and 6ie.cr are excellent though. |
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maybe their intention was for it to sound like random noise, but you have to actually sit down, give it a chance, and listen carefully in order to recognize the greatness of their subtle human intervention in the alien world of draft 7.30. |
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If Ae isnt getting your $$ then who is then? The Boogie Man?! |
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i can understand how somebody might not like a ae, but wtf is up with this treand of whiners who are no longer satisfied with expressing their dislike of ae, but must now make comments like "but I just can't pretend, like some of you. " ae seem to trigger a lot of people and they can't handle others' appreciation of it. ridiculous. shut up already. |
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"maybe their intention was for it to sound like random noise, but you have to actually sit down, give it a chance" If I sit down and listen to it for a few times, I'll probably start to learn how the clicking and clipping is going to be the next second. What is the point to learn yourself tracks that don't evoke any feelings at all? When I put on something like Tri Rep for the first time I thought "Fuck yeah! This is awesome!". Ganz Graf and the Draft mp3's don't give me anything at all. I don't want to sit down and learn how the tracks go just to be able to enjoy them after severe brainwash. the music should give you a sense of wonder and amazement immediately. This is difficult to explain :) -P |
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all taste man not trying to impose anything |
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I want to like AE, but I just can't pretend, like some of you. What the fuck is that supposed to mean? |
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"the music should give you a sense of wonder and amazement immediately." well it did with me, sorry to hear it doesnt with you... oh well. |
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so what, so you don't think its good music. whoopie-fucking-do. it must be their fault - it could NEVER be that their evolution as an artist is further than your evolution as a listener, naaah.. now make new topics on all the other albums you don't like. |
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Paco: can we hear some of your nord modular-music that sounds like autechre then? :) fun synth btw. |
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i think it's a mistake to assume that others are pretending to like music that one does not like (forgetting the subjectivity of experience is, after all, common), but it's perhaps a bigger mistake to react emotionally to those sorts of comments. why waste your energy getting angry, or even just irritated? if you believe it is human nature, then you will act it out. that said, i will probably not be buying draft, either, having heard the direction of confield and gantz graf. autechre has begun to remind me of academic music; so concerned with the counterintuitive and non-referential, it ignores the qualities which make music, for me, worth pursuing. i hear tracks which are grinding digital noise, with incoherent yet deliberate twists and turns, with no point but the lack of point, with simple, undeveloped melodic motifs drifting around, and then read others comment about how "lush" and "organic" and wonderful the tracks are. i do understand why some individuals might conclude that the people who so highly praise these dry, grey compositions might be fooling themselves. then again, i remember when lp5 came out and many longtime, faithful fans declared that is was an unlistenable morass of noise, yet lp5 is still my favorite lp. |
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alright, maybe im missing something completely im not sure i understand how melody = emotion. seems these are just blanket statements. "Well, obviously something with melody is much more "emotional" than things without because i let some odd years of music theory be beaten into my head tricking my head that YESSIR melody equals emotion nothing else matters it has to have MELODY AND TONES OTHERWISE ITS NOT EMOTION" despite the fact the difference between tones and "noise" as one calls it are very few. so i cant get emotion out of rhythmic sounds? is that against the law? am i breaking some sort of metaphysical rule designed as part of the universe from the very start? the difference between good and bad music is a wave-shape away, apparently. (and yes, i do like melodic music, plaid being next in line and they spew out the nice tones like nobodies business) |
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autechre got my money and will continue to do so...forever!!!!!!!!! they have done no wrong so far. |
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the idea that there would be people faking their liking of ae is hilarious, though. i'll give you that much. made me chuckle at least. "oh what shite music this is, but i'll pretend to like it for mb purposes" |
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like confield, draft 7.30 took me awhile to understand. it wasnt untill i put it on a few nites ago, whilst i was in the right mood, and more than a little stoned, that i fully appreiciated it. Now i cant get enough. if it keeps growing on me at this rate i will have to go to the doctors and get it surgically removed, lest it consumes me whole. (of course, i dont really think its any good at all, im just saying this so u all think im cool) |
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i like draft 7.30 better than confield however i cant see myself listening to either of these albums too often. they are like a spectacle to me. i find them interesting and amazing but a little too abrasive for everyday listening. |
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I like to listen to draft 7.18 only when it is dipped in hot chocolate and mink sauce. |
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Hey Paco, I not only got Draft 7.30, but the new Gescom EP as well. So I gave your share, compliments of my extra purchase. So :P (And BTW, I enjoy both albums, without the need for drugs. All eyes on me!) :) |
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i can see what pacos saying i bought draft 730, its a good headfukc, but basically i listened to it like 3 times, and its been in my rack since. whereas something like hard noraml daddy i always listen to. i mean its really hard to get into, i think they spend so much time getting that draft/confield metal sound that when they do, they think 'fuck it' and just have the same loop again and again, thats always been ae's problem, i like the tracks that have subtle progressions like drane. but the stuff on draft just seem like repetitive shit, the same machine malfunctionaing again and again doing yer head in |
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yea i bought draft 4.20 the other day, but i haven't been able to listen to it much because i have been really sick for 2 weeks. its not the type of music you want to listen to when your head feels like its gonna explode and you can't breath through your nose. im sure once i start feeling better it will grow on me, just like confield. gotta be in the right mood. |
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LOL, my ex accused me of listening to IDM just so people would think I was different... |
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Give her a listen of Merzbow and then make a tatoo on her forehead saying "I LISTENED TO MERZBOW (WEIRD ELECTRIC NOISE)" |
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here's my ae experience so far: I bought tri-repetae++, my first autechre album, and found it extremely boring at first, but it did sort of creep into my brain and grow on me. I bought my second autechre album, confield, and loved it straight away. it's completely engrossing, much looser and more natural sounding. I guess there's no accounting for taste. |
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That's pretty close to what I meant by faking it. I'm sure people here listen to the album a couple of times, put it away and then they're like "yeah, I got Draft yesterday, it's fucking awesome!" -P PS. I'm still curious as to what neetta was trying to say (1st reply). |
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music is almost as pointless as reproduction. |
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