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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-04-07 12:01 [#00637034]
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they have everything to do with promoting his artistic expressions... and making money. If he really wanted more easy money though, don't you think he'de accept one of the offers he's gotten for millions of dollars to push a product or just show his face in an add?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-07 12:02 [#00637035]
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*sticks both hands down cabbog's throat, tears his head open and roars "IS THERE A SOUL IN THERE?!""
Laser: he has a vested interest in 8 mile, you know, between starring in the joint and doing half of the soundtrack. also, you'll be hardpressed to find artists who don't make their own merchandise.
i agree with mr. corn, he's a major icon but he's no one's pawn but his own (i think he forces himself to do things he doesn't have to do, but technically i really think he could do whatever he wants at this point--like radiohead, for a very unexpected comparison).
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-07 12:04 [#00637038]
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I think he'll have to as well, he's played the same card a few too many times now.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-07 12:06 [#00637046]
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too true. as blown away as i am by his technical skills as a rapper and to some degree as a co-producer, i never put on any of his albums cos most of the songs are just about how much people hates and how he doesn't care. it gets pretty old.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-07 12:07 [#00637048]
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"they have everything to do with promoting his artistic expressions"
...or....his artistic expressions have something to do with selling t-shirts... it depends how you look at it I guess.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-04-07 12:09 [#00637050]
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It'll be interesting to see if he really has that kind of depth to be able to expand his technical horizons as such... I think he could if he really wanted to, and with the help of Dre anythings possible
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-04-07 12:10 [#00637053]
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You win.
Jarworski : And it's fresh every time. If he weren't able to put a different spin on it, he wouldn't have the sales or admiration he does. I mean, you could say the same thing about Trent Reznor --a very unexpected but viable comparison.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-07 12:13 [#00637060]
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Fuck that man, I don't listen to his music cause I don't need to hear three fucking albums about what a drunk bitch his mother was. You don't hear Korn singing about how painful school was on their new albu.... oh wait. You do. Never mind.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-07 12:17 [#00637071]
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i'd LOVE to see it. i still see eminem's hunger--look at any of his mixtape songs and collaborations post-eminem show--and he hasn't released a "bad" album yet. i think he needs to get past the celebrity elements of his life and start focusing on other issues. i'm not expecting him to go "conscious", nor would i ever want him to do that, but i can see where he could branch off into other discussions that he's started to touch on in some songs. i love when he brings up the fact that he would only have a fraction of the sales and popularity if he had the same skills but was black. that needs to be elaborated on more because so many of eminem's fans don't really get into Hip-Hop With Capital Letters. let's see, what else... oh yea i like it when he talks about the government, eg: "renagade" (w/ jay-z), "white america", and "love me" (w/ 50 cent and obie trice). there's more; i think he's forgetting he has other stuff to talk about cos he's so fucked up from the fame. if you look at him in tv interviews and broadcast performances he's always really nervous and uneasy. he wasn't built to be one of the world's top 10 most famous people, which is something he's still trying, largely in vein, to deal with through his lyrics.
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2003-04-07 13:59 [#00637223]
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hey corngrower, is you icon Hunter S Thompson?
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nacmat
on 2003-04-07 16:34 [#00637402]
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cuntychuck said: ********************************** I wouldnt bother telling them what good music is either. Because it's
just fucking hopeless. Why do you bring this topic up nacmat? you remind me more and more of some random geek on a
fucking popmag board **********************************
I dont understand your humour and if it was not a joke, then I think you are narrow minded
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 16:36 [#00637405]
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i used to like on of his songs, i think it was with his group tho hehe, i really dont know much about him...
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NPN
from Nowhere (Turkmenistan) on 2003-04-07 17:16 [#00637444]
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I'm sure your boys Ae said they liked him.
He's a talented MC but he relies too heavily on shock tactics.
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mimi
on 2003-04-07 21:16 [#00637703]
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i think eminem is great. i don't know if i have heard another wildly popular artist that is half as bad ass as him in a long time.
anyways, i don't really agree that he is all style and no substance however...he's got his moments (my personal favorites on the eminem show being "white america," "superman" and track 5, but i forget what it's called...). i think he's definitely got somethin to say; hopefully he becomes even more articulate with it.
i like his first album the best (how can you deny the charms of all those fucked voices he does?), and 8 mile was a rotten movie....but he really hasn't released a shitty record yet. that's pretty rare.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-07 21:18 [#00637708]
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"superman" is so trite.. "white america" i like but it has its share of cringeworthy, self-obsessed moments.
now, "till i collapse" is a song with substance.
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mimi
on 2003-04-07 21:31 [#00637734]
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oh, sure, "superman" is nothing groundbreaking but i think its good anyways.
he raps about himself, yeah...i suppose you could call him self-obsessed, but it really doesn't bother me at all, so i probably wouldn't use such a strong term.
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mimi
on 2003-04-07 21:32 [#00637735]
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i mean this isn't fiona apple we are talking about here...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-07 21:33 [#00637737]
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fiona's probably even more self-obsessed ;)
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mimi
on 2003-04-07 21:34 [#00637740]
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my thoughts exactly
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-04-08 03:43 [#00638212]
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but why make a thread like this? why ffs? this is a electronica board not a fucking POPMAGAZINE BOARD... honestly i could'nt care less about you liking eminem, but i think these threads are destroying all the good on the msgb..please think before you post. and yes, i am an IDM/braindance fan, don't call me narrowminded just because i don't praise you for liking eminem or any other popular commercialized artist.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-08 03:52 [#00638229]
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funny. i thought you had grown up a bit in the last couploe of weeks
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-04-08 03:53 [#00638231]
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u are all about me.
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nacmat
on 2003-04-08 16:19 [#00639436]
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cuntychuck, for some reason we seem not to get on well
I hope I make posts you like more in the future, but if you dont like them, whats the point in saying it everytime? we assume you dont like them, as it has been your opinion on my last threads, so I think there is no need in saying it again. you could just ignore me... (only my opinion)
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-04-08 16:37 [#00639467]
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well, i have a purpose of my posts, to ignore it would be to throw that away.
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nacmat
on 2003-04-08 16:44 [#00639472]
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what is it that you dont like about me?
to explain: "I love eminem" was in my opinion a good thread as I knew it would cause controversy (75 posts here so far, so it could be considered an interesting thread for at least 50 people)
as I said I expected controversy cos I know he is not popular among idm lovers, but the fact is that i like his last album, so I wanted to know what people thought of that...
but I never expected that a poster could be as bothered as you seem to be with my thread... and neither did I expect such a hard criticism
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-04-08 16:47 [#00639478]
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think about how you make this messageboard look for newcomers for instance - seeing the list - I love eminem - some champions league football stuff, and starwars.... great impression, i think i would turn my head away if i were an IDM fan.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-04-08 16:47 [#00639479]
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anyways, this is an electronic music board, what on this earth has eminem to do with it?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-08 16:48 [#00639483]
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cunty, you should really check watmm, i think you'd like that site much more :)
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-04-08 16:49 [#00639484]
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iam only doing this because i care.
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zetre
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-04-08 16:51 [#00639486]
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Renegade by Jay-Z and Eminem is SICK! Write that on your idm smorgasboard, punk!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-08 16:52 [#00639488]
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hehe, ok here, i'll include some electronic music :)
nacmat are you going to jelinek gig on april 13th?
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nacmat
on 2003-04-08 16:55 [#00639493]
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ok... as I said it is clear that you just dont like me, and I understand that.
I really like this thread, and the champions we do and the football threads too... and the polls.... if you think all of these are bad for this MB, there is no way I can help you, cos I will go on posting in that kind of threads.
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nacmat
on 2003-04-08 16:56 [#00639494]
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where is it? in spain?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-08 16:56 [#00639495]
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la casa encenida, you know it?
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-04-08 16:58 [#00639498]
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well - you don't understand my post's then.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-08 17:05 [#00639507]
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btwm thats madrid :) you lucky!
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nacmat
on 2003-04-08 17:08 [#00639509]
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nops, more info?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-08 17:10 [#00639511]
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www.lacasaencendida.com
you must attend if you can, you wont be sorry
im thinking of going to bologna to see him on friday, not sure about it yet...
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nacmat
on 2003-04-08 17:12 [#00639514]
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i teke notes
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-08 17:20 [#00639537]
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A REAL IDM fan wouldn't turn up his nose at a topic like this, there's lots of interesting things to say about Eminem. I'd hope an ''IDM fan'' would have a mind open enough to at least recognize that.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-04-08 17:26 [#00639552]
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im not saying he is not allowed to like it here, you get me wrong, im saying that i think it's crap to post it here.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-08 17:28 [#00639557]
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And I'm saying it's NOT crap to post it here. It's very relevant.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-04-08 17:29 [#00639559]
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that's just like... your 'opinion' man?...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-22 08:46 [#00873298]
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hehe the struggle continues.. will eminem record a boondocks dis track? he came to blows with a puppet last year (triumph the insult comic dog), i wouldn't put it past him.
look at the comic strip at the top (today only)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-09-22 08:48 [#00873301]
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Eminem, whatr can I say about him....?
Some of his tracks are hella fun when your drunk. Other than that I dislike his music and his attitude even more so.
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nacmat
on 2003-09-22 08:51 [#00873306]
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I dont know his attitude... but his music I like (I havent bought any of his cds though, I burnt them)
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Jaysuz Jones
from Wasaga Beach (Canada) on 2003-09-22 08:54 [#00873308]
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I don't TOO !
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nacmat
on 2003-09-22 09:01 [#00873323]
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its easy to find eminem haters in this forum... but hey its just music taste... no big deal really
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rez
from here on 2003-09-22 11:18 [#00873482]
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i think i hate everything about eminem; his voice, his film, his attitude, ...
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-09-22 11:22 [#00873486]
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you gotta stop go and see his movies
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