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rephlexual
from Norwich (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-12 03:50 [#00591298]
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well maybe FSOL could be classified as techno/IDM crossover, but LFO and orbital are definitely pure techno
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rephlexual
from Norwich (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-12 03:51 [#00591300]
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if orbital are on, then 808 state should be on
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-03-12 03:51 [#00591301]
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umm.. we have a very different idae about techno then..
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rephlexual
from Norwich (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-12 03:52 [#00591303]
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an a guy called gerald too
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rephlexual
from Norwich (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-12 03:52 [#00591306]
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an=and
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 03:57 [#00591312]
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fsol: electronic music orbital: electronic music
ok for 808 state, baby ford and drexcya too.
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 03:57 [#00591313]
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dont you worry.
woofer ironlung and nacmat will listen to all the requests you all make... and we will decide wiich artists enter the list of 60 that will fight to be the other 12 in the final stage.
the other 12 got their cualification thanks to last years results (that were the result of your votes) we think thats fair enough and if there are new interesting artists that we all like and we didnt consider last year they have their oporutnity too...
so dont worry about what is IDM or not... we will decide that... just make your requests... they will all be listened, remember we can choose till 60 artists so I am sure pretty much any of your requests will manage to fight in the precualification stage... then 12 of those (voted for you) will pass to the finals
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 03:57 [#00591314]
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.1 Two Lone Swordsmen .2 Venetian Snare .3 Bochum Welt .4 D'Arcangelo .5 Passarani .6 Susumu Yokota .7 Bola .8 Yega .9 MuM 10. Chris Clark 11. Mira Calix 12. The Orb 13. Plone 14. Arovane 15. Oval 16. DMX crew 17. Leila 18. Phonecia 19. Richard Devine 20. Alder & Elius 21. Drexcya 22. Baby Ford 23. 808 State
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-03-12 03:58 [#00591316]
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i personally think many artists of that list are more, much more technoish than fsol or orbital..
ah but this is just stupid. lets have tea.
<- is a silly girl
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rephlexual
from Norwich (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-12 03:59 [#00591318]
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sorry, i wasnt actually suggesting that 808state should go on your list, i was just making a point :)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:03 [#00591324]
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60 artits aren't too much nacmat? maybe it would be better to make qualifications with less partecipants for a more interesting and close battle, 30 or 40 maybe could be enough.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:04 [#00591325]
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808 state are ok, don't worry
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:04 [#00591326]
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woofer:
those obtaining the better positions in last years competitions:
these were the first 8 in woofers last year championship
aphex squarepusher autechre boc plaid uziq chemical brothers (will not compete this year) f.s.o.l
and these were the first 15 in nacmats league
570 Richard D James 450 Squarepusher 438 Autechre 421 BOC 245 µ-ziq 215 Plaid 120 Global Goon 110 Bogdan Raczinsky 110 Luke Vibert 102 Ovuca 101 Amon Tobin 98 Mouse On Mars 98 Future Sound Of London 87 Cylob 86 Orbital
as fsol was 8 in your comp I think they must be in
but its just 12, so I think that:
98 Mouse On Mars 87 Cylob 86 Orbital
shall go to the precualification stage
though its hard for me to see cylob not being in the first 12...
but if you want we can change a little those first 12, I dont know what you think
shall we respect exactly last years results? so orbital and cylob are out?
or shall we modify a little those first 12 due to the new releases this years have been made and that made us change opinion?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-12 04:04 [#00591328]
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I reckon FSOL should be there...
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:09 [#00591333]
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at firt I said to make it 48 prestage I just said 60 in case people made lots of requests.
how to manage it?:
6 groups in which only the first 2 cualify
depending on how many we put on those groups:
6 per group: 36 8 per group: 48 10 per group: 60
its only in case they make ltots of requests... so that nobody feels that his request has not been listened
but 6 groups cualifying the first 2 (2x6=12 the second 12) works pretty nicely
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:10 [#00591334]
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.1 Two Lone Swordsmen .2 Venetian Snare .3 Bochum Welt .4 D'Arcangelo .5 Passarani .6 Susumu Yokota .7 Bola .8 Yega .9 MuM 10. Chris Clark 11. Mira Calix 12. The Orb 13. Plone 14. Arovane 15. Oval 16. DMX crew 17. Leila 18. Phonecia 19. Richard Devine 20. Alder & Elius 21. Drexcya 22. Baby Ford 23. 808 State 24. Speedy J 25. Phonem 26. Fingernail
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:10 [#00591335]
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amon tobin shall be on the first 12? before cylob and mouse on mars or orbital?
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:11 [#00591339]
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agree with you, mouse on mars, orbital and cylob can go to qualifications.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:13 [#00591343]
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he won against MoM and Cylob in your league so he deserves his qualification imo.
101 Amon Tobin 98 Mouse On Mars 98 Future Sound Of London 87 Cylob 86 Orbital
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:13 [#00591344]
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.1 Two Lone Swordsmen .2 Venetian Snare .3 Bochum Welt .4 D'Arcangelo .5 Passarani .6 Susumu Yokota .7 Bola .8 Yega .9 MuM 10. Chris Clark 11. Mira Calix 12. The Orb 13. Plone 14. Arovane 15. Oval 16. DMX crew 17. Leila 18. Phonecia 19. Richard Devine 20. Alder & Elius 21. Drexcya 22. Baby Ford 23. 808 State 24. Speedy J 25. Phonem 26. Fingernail 27. Orbital 28. Mouse on Mars 29. Cylob
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:14 [#00591346]
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01. Aphex Twin (The last winner) 02. Squarepusher 03. Autechre 04. Boards of Canada 05. Plaid 06. µziq 07. Future Sound of London 08. Global Goon 09. Bogdan Raczinsky 10. Luke Vibert 11. Ovuca/Astrobotnia 12. Amon Tobin
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:14 [#00591347]
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so is this ok with you woofer?
first 12:
570 Richard D James 450 Squarepusher 438 Autechre 421 BOC 245 µ-ziq 215 Plaid 120 Global Goon 110 Bogdan Raczinsky 110 Luke Vibert 102 Ovuca 101 Amon Tobin 98 Future Sound Of London
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:15 [#00591348]
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ups sorry... too late
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rephlexual
from Norwich (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-12 04:17 [#00591349]
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what are the number next to yours nacmat?
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:17 [#00591350]
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ok ok and fsol in 7th place?
they where 7th in your comp and 13th in mine
what do you think? do we do the average or what do we do?
positions are also important
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:18 [#00591352]
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just copied and pasted from last years counting votes list
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:18 [#00591353]
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.1 Two Lone Swordsmen .2 Venetian Snare .3 Bochum Welt .4 D'Arcangelo .5 Passarani .6 Susumu Yokota .7 Bola .8 Yega .9 MuM 10. Chris Clark 11. Mira Calix 12. The Orb 13. Plone 14. Arovane 15. Oval 16. DMX crew 17. Leila 18. Phonecia 19. Richard Devine 20. Alder & Elius 21. Drexcya 22. Baby Ford 23. 808 State 24. Speedy J 25. Phonem 26. Fingernail 27. Orbital 28. Mouse on Mars 29. Cylob 30. Brothomstates 31. Nightmares on Wax
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:19 [#00591355]
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the average is a good idea, imo.
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rephlexual
from Norwich (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-12 04:21 [#00591359]
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when can we vote?
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:23 [#00591362]
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in a few days we hope to have the 6 groups prepared... we must give people time to make thir requests
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:23 [#00591363]
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please, everybody give a good name for play in qualifications of this competition... i'm finishing my resources ;)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:24 [#00591364]
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so between 7th and 13th :
fsol in 10 th place?
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rephlexual
from Norwich (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-12 04:25 [#00591366]
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call it 'IDM world cup'
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:25 [#00591368]
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ok, i agree
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-12 04:26 [#00591369]
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put jan jelinek for qualifications...
please :)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:27 [#00591371]
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then woofer:
this are the great 12: (and in this order)
01. Aphex Twin (The last winner) 02. Squarepusher 03. Autechre 04. Boards of Canada 05. Plaid 06. µziq 07. Global Goon 08. Bogdan Raczinsky 09. Luke Vibert 10. Future Sound of London 11. Ovuca/Astrobotnia 12. Amon Tobin
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:28 [#00591372]
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the right name should be: *** Xltronic Championship 2003 *** (2nd edition)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 04:28 [#00591373]
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ok, cool.
now i go to have my deserved lunch, cya later ;)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-12 04:30 [#00591374]
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you have lunch in the morning in italy? :)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:30 [#00591375]
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see you later
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-12 04:31 [#00591377]
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ohh, and buon' apetito
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:33 [#00591379]
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we add jan jelinek to the list.
.1 Two Lone Swordsmen .2 Venetian Snare .3 Bochum Welt .4 D'Arcangelo .5 Passarani .6 Susumu Yokota .7 Bola .8 Yega .9 MuM 10. Chris Clark 11. Mira Calix 12. The Orb 13. Plone 14. Arovane 15. Oval 16. DMX crew 17. Leila 18. Phonecia 19. Richard Devine 20. Alder & Elius 21. Drexcya 22. Baby Ford 23. 808 State 24. Speedy J 25. Phonem 26. Fingernail 27. Orbital 28. Mouse on Mars 29. Cylob 30. Brothomstates 31. Nightmares on Wax 32. jan jelinek waiting to be confirmed:
1: Pierre Bastien Mecanoid 2: Axiome 3: Matmos
more requests??
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:34 [#00591381]
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remember we can go till 48 or even 60 (this would be too much though)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-12 04:55 [#00591400]
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what about:
1 Two Lone Swordsmen .2 Venetian Snare .3 Bochum Welt .4 D'Arcangelo .5 Passarani .6 Susumu Yokota .7 Bola .8 Yega .9 MuM 10. Chris Clark 11. Mira Calix 12. The Orb 13. Plone 14. Arovane 15. Oval 16. DMX crew 17. Leila 18. Phonecia 19. Richard Devine 20. Alder & Elius 21. Drexcya 22. Baby Ford 23. 808 State 24. Speedy J 25. Phonem 26. Fingernail 27. Orbital 28. Mouse on Mars 29. Cylob 30. Brothomstates 31. Nightmares on Wax 32. jan jelinek 33. Matmos (many of these may not be IDM so you tell me and we can put some of them out)
these next are from the idm league of last year... all these next cualified in the first 40 so it means I have left out the last 10 of the league
waiting to be confirmed: (artists can be added or deleted from this list)
funkstorung pole prefuse 73 LFO four tet pan sonic photek a guy called gerald proem brothomstates cex plastikman monolake
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 06:37 [#00591502]
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.1 Two Lone Swordsmen .2 Venetian Snare .3 Bochum Welt .4 D'Arcangelo .5 Passarani .6 Susumu Yokota .7 Bola .8 Yega .9 MuM 10. Chris Clark 11. Mira Calix 12. The Orb 13. Plone 14. Arovane 15. Oval 16. DMX crew 17. Leila 18. Phonecia 19. Richard Devine 20. Alder & Elius 21. Drexcya 22. Baby Ford 23. 808 State 24. Speedy J 25. Phonem 26. Fingernail 27. Orbital 28. Mouse on Mars 29. Cylob 30. Brothomstates 31. Nightmares on Wax 32. Photek 33. Cex 34. Plastikman
are waiting: Matmos, Mecanoid, prefuse 73, a guy called gerald, etc...
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Maybe is better to stop partecipants to 36... last names are really unknown for most of the person of xltronic community. they haven't any chance to win a match here, imo.
i think this competition is funnier if we keep high level of partecipants.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 06:37 [#00591504]
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i never hear jan jelinek, is he good?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-12 06:40 [#00591506]
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hmm, i love his stuff (some other people seem to like him) if you're going to check him out-try the album personal rock - but you can check all he done (under all his aliases) ;)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 06:44 [#00591509]
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Nacmat: I was thinking... long championship become boring for most of the persons, imo. Maybe it would be better to change qualifications system and use your "league" system for choose the top 10 who will go in the finals or something similiar.
I mean: We should try to finish qualifications quickly for start the real competitions with all the bests.
Nacmat, Ironlung, which are your opinions?
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 06:45 [#00591510]
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your electronic culture is always impressive tolstoyed :)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-12 06:49 [#00591511]
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example:
we could make only one topic for qualification and make ppl vote for their 5 artists (from the lists), in the right order. we can give 5 point to the first, 4 to the second... etc...
then we will select the best 10 between all votes.
this could be a fast mode to select the bests and then go directly to prepare the real "Xltronic championship 2003"
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