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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-26 16:51 [#00572275]
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ive been betwen 2 and 3 i will do it seriously from now on hey just thinking maybe sometimes you just dont want to be lucid yeah?
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-02-26 16:51 [#00572277]
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Jupitah, Definitely...There is too much weird stuff going on in life for one to completey dismiss a theory...if that makes sense
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-26 16:52 [#00572283]
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It teeters between 2 and 3. @ isn't bad either but i have trouble getting excited. I get overly excited that i wanna do this or that and i lose stability. I need to know how to manage the right mind frame. I am obsessed with flying BTW!! It never ever gets old. It's amazing how the mind can emulate such a feeling!
LDing is truly such a wonderful and beautiful gift!
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-26 16:53 [#00572286]
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perversion x100'000
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-02-26 16:54 [#00572289]
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Really is flying that cool? I can't remember ever having a flying dream....Sounds really cool!
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-26 16:55 [#00572292]
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im still sure i was really flying god i need that stuff back *puts the joint down*
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-26 16:57 [#00572298]
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Cool doesn't quite describe it right. I mean you can feel the wind. And those gravity drops like when you go down a hill real fast. It's so great! I could do it everyday for the rest of my life and it would never get old.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-26 16:58 [#00572299]
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that'll be my new pre-sleep mantra. "clarity X 1000" :)
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-26 16:58 [#00572300]
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oh yeah Dia, as i told, i was persuaded to run out of my window and jump to fly..
thats incredible, and i can remember the details of the streets..
one funny thing is that i always dreamed i fly during the night, i mean it was dark in my dreams. really like i was the only one flying and everybody else was sleeping..
awesome dude you have to try it
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-26 16:59 [#00572302]
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I have also read that things like pot and alcohol will decrease you chances of LD depending on usage.
My friend emailed me today about a herb that you smoke that helps dream clarity. I am going to copy and paste what he wrote BRB.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:00 [#00572305]
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flying is wonderful, cause in your dream you're flying, but it's (for me) symbolic for spiritual freedom, an overcoming of all fears.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-26 17:00 [#00572307]
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The dream herb is all right, its exactly the thing you want if you have lucid dreams.... here is the details.... its called Calea Zacatechichi
MILD EUPHORIA Especially when smoked in a large-enough quantity, Calea Z can produce a REALLY mild cannabis-like euphoria, but without the apathy. It's not the same thing, so don't just buy a ton of Calea Z. to smoke because 'budz' is illegal. You will probably not get the same effect just by drinking the tea, since the stuff tastes so terrible that the psychological effect of the bad taste offsets the euphoric feeling one might otherwise encounter.
MENTAL CLARITY Strangely enough, I've found that using Calea in ANY form tends to clear the mind. It alters the perception of time so that it appears that time is passing more slowly, and it makes one feel more 'in control' of things.
VIVID DREAMS This should be obvious, since this is a Lucid Dreaming Forum. Now you won't AUTOMATICALLY become lucid in your dreams, but your chances of lucidity are greatly increased. Furthermore, your dreams can seem so realistic (in some cases) that they are actually MORE enjoyable than a normal lucid dream where the level of clarity is not as high. The level of clarity, or continuity produced by Calea Z. is due to the fact that the 'Memory Continuity Facilitator' function is turned ON by Calea Z. and therefore MCV jumps (jumping from one time/place to another time/place suddenly in a dream) are not as likely.
SIDE EFFECTS None noted, unless you have an allergy to the stuff. There are no reports (or suspicions by scientists) of ill effects resulting from the use, long term, or short term, of this herb.
Good stuff, last night I tried a little bit and I can rememebr EVERYTHING about the dream... it was weird, as I was walking to work I was thinking to myself that I was still dreaming, and I had the old, am I a man dreaming I was a butterfly or a butterfly dreaming I was a man thing......
but that was just a little drop, I think with more the experienc
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:01 [#00572311]
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I apologize for my lack of a better word(cool)...Im at school and I have lost all creativity...sorry about that
But yeah if I ever have a LD I shall definitely give it a shot
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:03 [#00572314]
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sense made
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-26 17:03 [#00572315]
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Also i think taking vitamin B helps increase overall chances of an LD but don't go over the suggested daily dose or it could cause brain damage.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-26 17:04 [#00572317]
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can i find calea z in a lucid dream ?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-26 17:04 [#00572318]
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Don't apologize goofball! It's just that i wanted to stress how fucking unbelievable it appears to me!
*anticipates sleeping tonight
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:05 [#00572319]
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is LD commonly used as an abreviation? because it means lethal dose.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-26 17:06 [#00572323]
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yes, i think im up for less weed smoking and more lucid dreaming, kinda feel i need it for my creativity tho
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-26 17:06 [#00572324]
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Actually i have done drugs in dreams. Drugs that don't exsist and have had really really odd experiences.
Ask a dream character where to find a specific object/person and you will usually be able to.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:06 [#00572325]
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t mckenna said many a times that after smoking dmt once, he was able to smoke "virtual dmt" in his dreams many times, with effects of equal intensity (dmt is said to create the alien abudction experience for many)
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-26 17:07 [#00572326]
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calea z lethal dose x1000 :)
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:07 [#00572328]
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i've eaten mushooms in my dream before and everything from there on out was something undescribable, but it was far better than any mushroom trip.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-26 17:08 [#00572329]
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Yeah LD is used commonly. It is also used in reference to various LD's
MILDS WILDS TILDS and so on.
You'll run across that alot on LD msg boards especially that second one i posted
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:09 [#00572330]
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haha jupitah can one have an LD of LD's
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-26 17:09 [#00572331]
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can you sleep during lucid dreams? cos im writing a story with a boy who is able to do that, and gets much more relaxed if he dreams in his dreamscape
i found the idea cool
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-26 17:09 [#00572332]
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I smoked a light blue powered substance that smelt fruity. I got all sorts of faded and i felt out of it and aware at the same time. I remember geekin out in the dream. Odd i say.... odd indeed!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-26 17:10 [#00572333]
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lol :P
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-26 17:12 [#00572334]
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I have slept in an LD before. I also woke up from that dream still inside the LD which was confusing because my dream mom was trying to explain that i wasn't dreaming. Fuckin dream characters! So then i eventually woke up.
Nothing like waking up mulitple times before you wake up!
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:14 [#00572337]
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*anticipates sleeping tonight
Yeah seriously virginpusher I can't wait to start a dream diary...I have some pretty wacked dreams sometimes though...Like the end of the world and that kinda nonsense
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:15 [#00572338]
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kind of off topic but how does one make the font italic?
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-26 17:16 [#00572340]
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i was serious my character is a disturbed red hair boy who hardly can relax during his sleep, cos surrounded by violent nightmares but has got mental powers and learn to use them to travel through his dreams, that actually are other dimensions.
i find it sweet to imagine him getting asleep in a wonderfull dreamscape.
also he can avoid the nightmares, paralysis when he is with his sister (symbol of his innocence) and reach those calm places.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:16 [#00572341]
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lol! unidentified dream-realm chemcial catalysts, it's great. whatever takes you where you need to be!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-26 17:17 [#00572342]
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Interestingly enough there has been an increase of armageddon related dreams and dreams in which Christ visits people. It has been happening the world round.
I will find that article and print the link. It's interesting. I have to go travel now but i hope this stays alive!
Happy LDing All!
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:17 [#00572344]
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i love it so far.
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:18 [#00572345]
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hey when you finish the story I want a copy okay?
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-26 17:19 [#00572347]
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im sure it will help me with that story thank you alot virginpusher you really made my day with that thread
i already thought about that before, but forget and didnt find it very important, but im an idiot, thats exactly the things i need to know myself more and get into writing deeper again
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-26 17:20 [#00572349]
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yay sure :D
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-26 17:21 [#00572351]
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i set my alarm 2 hours before i need to get up, maybe earlier, so that i can then go back to sleep and enjoy another fucked up dream! sometimes lucid, sometimes not, but always memorable...
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-02-26 17:23 [#00572353]
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Thanks looking forward to it!
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-26 17:23 [#00572354]
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ok good night then ive put a block of paper beside my bed ready to jump on it 2morrow see you and thanx again
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-26 18:36 [#00572408]
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virginpusher posted i think like 80 times in this threa so far.
GOD DAMN WOMAN!!!!!
anyways, yeah i have to agree with you.
falling is the coolest thing.
this one time, well, i have always just been running or doing someting in a car or what not, but OUT OF CONTROL, and went over a bridge, fell. etc.
and you always get that "free falling" feeling.
WELL I PINPOINTED IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it was so badass.
i was falling, i dont know where, looked lke new york city, i dont know but it was just some big ass city, i kept falling, and had that feeling in my head (pinpointed to inner ears)
so anyways, i realied i was dreaming and closed my eyes, and kept falling.
it's like, right before i hit the ground, i closed my eyes, realized it was a dream, and kept going.
it was pitch black.
but i had that feeling.
i had that feeling for so fucking long you have no idea.
i kept going, deeper, deepr.
it felt as if i had awoken, but kept my eyes closed, but that weird falling feeling was still going.
it was incredible, by far one of the best things ive ever done in a dream.
i pinpointed it (b/c i had that feeling so long) to someplace in the inner ear.
my theory is, (as a somewhat accoustical engineer) that since the brain resonates at subsonic frequencies (~ 10Hz and less,) that you were actually just picking up on those ultra minu'te frequencies.
hard to explain to peple who dont understand resonance and the effect on internal organs and energy transforms, but i honestly beleive this is a way for the brain to perceive it.
i dont know, maybe im just a lil too woozy to be posting ATM....
it's sad, i cant really do too much anymore LD wise (guess what else LD stands for, LOL ) - anyways, i wake up at 6am everymorning for work or skool, so it's really hard to sleep in (which was the only time i've ever been able to LD, was waking up, then quickly falling back asleep)
and i cant sleep in
if i wake up, go to the bathroom, and come back and lie dow
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-26 20:38 [#00572452]
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OK ITA BEENE AWHILE IAND IM PRETT UCKEDUOFONTEDANDFDRUNKRIHGTOW
AO L O L
LDRAWFT 7,1930
,30 ID GETNITB4!!!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-26 20:39 [#00572453]
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280p.63.68.4:21 VEUCE1nICETRY!
loca_host1172/2 127,9,1,1
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-27 15:05 [#00573543]
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honestly,
did i kill this thread or something?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-27 15:06 [#00573545]
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what the fuck was i typing last night
::: decodes it for the 4th time :::
nope still don't know what i was trying to get across
gg 5th.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-27 15:08 [#00573547]
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no you paranoid, i tried last night to LD, but i shouldnt have smoke, the weed is really not a good help
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 15:44 [#00573581]
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does listening to music help you lucid dream? I've only recently had dreams where i know i'm dreaming and it seems to happen when i put some ambient music on (usually SAWII)
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rarndaraki
from from from from (United States) on 2003-02-27 16:28 [#00573627]
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i read the info on lucid dreaming for a few hours last night, drank some milk before bed, went to sleep saying "im in a dream" and all that stuff, and no lucid dream. I came really fuckin close though, i was having a dream and woke myself up to much and it was wierd cause then i was paralyzed for a few minutes. i will try again tonight, once i get this down im gonna try and meditate into a LD.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-27 17:35 [#00573698]
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seems like something you have to be devoted to for a long time.
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