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i want to hear that max tundra album but the cover looks\makes me never want to hear it in my whole life, worst cover ever. anyways, i still dont get why the trail of dead album is that good, id give it like a 7\7.5 out of 10, at the drive in are waaay better anyways. but the books are great too. i think they had a lot of great stuff on the list but they missed gybe, exhaust, ganz graf, daedelus, vsnares, dj shadow and some others i forget |
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id be interested to hear your best of '02. did you post one somewhere? |
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all i'm waiting on is for "winter in the belly of a snake" to get shipped to me (i preordered that mofo from bn.com in november, wtf?!) and for me to find time to listen to the new hrvatski album (i downloaded it but i'll buy it if it's as dope as people claim). right now the mighty blackalicious and talib kweli are battling it out for the top spot. |
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i havent heard that playthroughs album but it sounds great from description. now obviusly those particularly the hiphop albums were placed lower is because theyre umm less "original" shall i say. now obviously the talib kweli, blackalicious are solid albums but they arent anything else. also realize that this isnt really what i think exactly but more what i think about how they chose playthroughs that high on the list and put the others lower. another thing we alo must realize is that they are bias to more independent\abstract albums thus grading the other albums harder and rating lower as well as not giving most hiphop that great of reviews. |
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that blackalicious song chemistry calastenics(?) is great, we listened to it in biology class (because it was somewhat related to the period table etc.)a few weeks ago it was great heh. |
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titsworth, id also be interested in your top __ albums of 02, mainly the top 10 though if that would be possible. |
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well here's the thing, i actually downloaded and listened to the album at least twice, and while i "liked" it, i didn't get the same thing out of it that pitchfork (claim they) did. to me it seems like they're just getting off on the concept of an album that's just tones, despite the fact that cats have been making experimental tone records since the 60s (and a lot of them have been a lot better; there's a cool radio show that highlights music like this on WMUC, univ. of maryland college park.. love that show). anyway it was one of my least fave albums of the year, just cos it wasn't that interesting. and i see what you're saying about kwe and blackalicious, in fact that's the point of this thread.. to talk about pitchfork's biases and general bullshit. personally i think both albums are really creative w/o going overboard, which some underground hip-hop artists are prone to doing (to the detriment of their album). |
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i have a top 20 albums in the works just wait a few days... for now, these are my fave singles of the year (to qualify they had to be released to radio or video outlets.. i don't just mean "best songs") singles of the year, no order: truth hurts f/ rakim - addictive j-live - satisfied? clipse - grindin' eminem - lose yourself common f/ mary j. blige - come close nas f/ jadakiss & ludacris - made you look (remix) huh i didn't realize they were all hip-hop.. not one "excellent" rock single released this year, interesting. |
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B U M P for Mr. Pants =0) |
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eminem ahah so its not just candies |
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Another fun science song is Mammal by They Might Be Giants. Biology teachers should play this one whenever circulation is studied! "So the warm blood flows lacking nuclei through the large 4-chambered heart... maintaining the very high metabolism rate they have..." I have that song if anyone wants to snag it off me later on Inverted's opennap server. Prolly be on by 6:00 EST |
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Pitchfork Media is a wretched source of information for any intelligent advocate of music. Their opinions are extremely biased and trendy. They overlook many important, relevent artists, all the while praising mediocre realeases. Pitchfork Media scarsely skims the surface of interesting music today. |
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pitchfork gave nine inch nails' 'the fragile' 1.9, tool's 'lateralus' a 2.0, and sasha's 'airdrawndagger' a 2.something.... after reading those, i figured they were just for comedic purposes only. |
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Xenotactics: exactly; glad you realize that. too many people here are fooled by pitchfork for some reason. so anyway, i was off in my original guess for what they would give the massive attack album (i figured they'd give it a high rating just to show they don't slag off ALL artists whose last album was praised as a masterpiece), but the theory of it still stands: total bullshit. i guess it wasn't massive attack's turn to get excused from their plan to giving bad reviews to excellent but popular artists. again: fuck pitchfork. if you want a laugh, read the onion. |
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Pitchfork didn't even rank Front 242 in the 100 most important artists of the eighties. I find that pretty absurd, as to Geography is more than 20 years old, and still sounds damned fresh. |
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DJ Krush - Rating: 4.2 ("trance"? wtf? and the xenophobic haiku and manga references, not to mention the cliched anticon propz..) Cat Power - Rating: 8.9 (i predicted a lowly 8.8 for this indie goddess... insightful comparison to liz phair.. NOT. and the whining for a version of the album with less songs is so typical of music reviewers who don't have to worry about actually buying cd's...) man, again... fuck the fork. |
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same feelings about that krush review. |
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however annoying and angry they make me, for some reason, i still go back for more. why IS that? :) |
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it might be because they're one of the few places that reviews the music you like. |
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whats with this radiohead thing....did you even read the pitchfork reviews for radiohead? most are 9's and 10s, except for that electronic tribute album i cant complain about people for what they think about an album. its their opinion. thats why reviews in general are shit overall, since when it REALLY comes down to it, its just a matter of personal opinion. i mean, if every review was subjective to peoples taste it would just be "well, this here album could appeal to some, and maybe not to others. i rate this album 1-10, depending on your taste" there, that takes care of about every single album released in the entire world |
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mm, no. take into account production and songwriting qualities, that type of jazz. there is something to review in everything. |
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thats completely subjective. i know someone who likes lo fi muddled stuff and thinks its better than high end "quality" production. its just a matter of what you think sounds better. and we all hear things differently. and as i just said, when it "really" comes down to it, its just personal opinion. |
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fuck your utopian politically correct bullshit. |
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yes it is. and i'm right, and everyone else is wrong! :P |
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its just a god damn review site. but hey, if you want to argue about some stupid review site that you all hate because they have different opinions than you, then go for it. have fun! |
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I like pitchfork. I agree with most of their reviews. You don't like their reviews, start your own music critique site. |
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Yeah they are xenophobic twats, especially to us Brits. Just read the review of |
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"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture." |
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. "So I set about on my quest to create my own private France. I didn't bathe for a week. I peed on the sidewalk. I ate parts of a duck I didn't even know existed. I made myself laugh at old Jerry Lewis movies. I wore a beret and spat at tourists. I hung around fancy art museums all day. I drank expensive wine. I made all my friends call me "Mathieu." Finally, when I felt like I'd fully immersed myself in the finer points of French culture, I popped 36 Erreurs back into my stereo, figuring that if Mathieu LeMay didn't like it, nobody would." |
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When I first read that quote it was attributed to Elvis Costello, but a quick search reveals that a number of people claim those words. Re. Windowlicker review: What's a Hot Pocket? |
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Even I'M a little pissed off about that. Those pitchfucks. |
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That may not all be true about the French, but the bit about MC Solaar certainly is in my experience. |
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I haven't the first fucking idea. And what's this shit about haggis?? |
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I'm not sure they're being xenophobic there. You may not always like what they say about albums but at least they are honest and back up their arguments. And they aren't filled with buzzwords and hyperbole. |
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The only balanced reviews I have found are at absorb.org. Pitchfork (mostly Ryan Schreiber actually) seems to hate stuff for odd reasons, and the comments at Boomkat are full of hyperbole. |
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Yeah I didn't mean it in that way... just stereotypical. |
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fuck those stuck-up racist cunts and their bad taste in music. seems like every artist or album i love gets panned at pitchfork, and every trendy, sound-alike rock band or white rapper gets praised. |
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i wouldnt be surprised if they get payed to write good reviews about shit albums |
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titsworth I miss lecoeur where is she? |
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what, you didn't miss me? ;) dobbin, you're probably right. |
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well yes... I really did, but now you are here... and though you have been like 2 days out, she isnt here since 16th so its longer... |
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true.. well, maybe she'll pop up soon :) |
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why would the new autechre get bad reviews from them? confield got 8.8, that's a fabulous score. I was thinking about applying for a job there, they said they needed hiphop writers a while back. maybe they still do. they like to play the "sounds like" game quite a bit, and they're quick to rant about a genre's problems instead of the album's problems. i do hate pitchfork most of the time but i think they're still a considerable resource as far as opinionated websites go. as much as i get pissed at them i keep going out of habit. |
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yea they need hip-hop writers cos right now all the people reviewing hip-hop are indie rock fans, straight up. their "rap reviews" are a joke, literally -- they have me rolling on the floor laughing everytime. as for why autechre will get a bad review, read page 1 of this thread to get an insight into pitchfork's methodology for giving bad reviews.. but yea i'm pretty much in the same seat as you, right down to considering applying to review some joints since they need my help pretty badly. that said, i doubt they'd hire me (i can't play their snobby games, i love music) and as for the last few months i've decided not to apply cos i wouldn't be able to sleep at night, they suck so badly over there. |
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herro nacho =0) a lil birdy told me you were asking about me! i hope you're doing well......it's been beastly weather over here, snow up to my eyeballs.......i wanna stay home and bang on ze drums all day......ehhehehe |
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b u m p *trashes MF pitchfork* t hee =o) |
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I agree with AMG for almost everything except Drukqs and Think Tank |
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I agree with the majority of reviews on pitchfork but some of em I completely disagree with, giving blur - think tank a 9.0...Id give it like a 5.5, it has no flow and half the tracks are weak, oh well. Its just one person's opinion against another and I can't see how some of you can say pitchfork has "bad taste." Since when were you(not talking of anyone specifically) the know it all of what music is good. A person can't have good or bad taste in music, they can like\not like certain things but its not good or bad. Of course people can be more open about what music they like but thats for a different topic. On another note, I also disagree that they praise all trendy bands, thats really not true, they usually hammer the bands that are trendy and they do review a lot of interesting and unique albums. And of course they don't review everything because its literallt impossible to. thats enough for me for now. |
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Their review of Pet Sounds is FUCKING AWFUL. I am willing to personally beat the fudge out of whoever wrote it. |
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*watches you tear'em apart* |
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