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Thaks Joyrex & Mike P etc... appreciate the info! |
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This is one of the more interesting topic who I read in the last weeks on this mb. Great work, thanx to everybody for questions and answers. I hope to read other info soon. |
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I second that, a very very good thread. Thanks titsworth, Joyrex and Mike P! :) |
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It's at times like this that i rrealise just how feble my aphex twin knowledge is. but i don't mind. |
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Damn good tread. Nearly as good as any I've started ;-) |
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eyes bleed'n .. cheers @_@ |
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what about the laptop he left on a plane in Scotland... he´s never heard the stuff on the web so it was probably wiped or maybe it´s gathering time-delay potency! Hey, joyrex.. was that dancer a long-haired dude with a beard? May have seen him dance at RDJs ambient set in Dublin 1999.... he´s a nuttah |
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RDJ + SP + leaving MP3 player/laptops on planes = total bollocks :) Paul (at least in 91) is totally bald; there is a pic on him in the Aphex section on watmm, kind of sepia coloured one... row 6 (from the top), one before the last (from left to right). This was a magazine pic of him sent to me ages ago. I've never seen the long haired guy...might be Paul, but I doubt it. |
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why do you think that about the mp3 player? |
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I dunno...Richard (especially nowadays) is probably VERY careful about his music, as he knows many humans are out to get it any way they can, and for him to a) lose an MP3 player with HIS music on it - think about it, I doubt he listens to only his music) and then b) say he lost it in a magazine he KNOWS the fans will read) I think he was just winding us all up with that statement. |
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kewl did someone found this mp3 player?? |
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What you mean just feeding the fans with more stuff to gossip about, such as... "Wow, imagine finding that... what a great Christmas present that would be etc!" I read in the nme interview i think that Grant apparently warned him about owning such an item. - More lies or a group conspiracy? |
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It's a good point though, you're probably right. Squarepusher would have gone f'ing berserk - i know i would if in their position! |
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there is something almost zen-like and fullfilling about deleting some of your hard-grafted tracks...... believe me, i know! *sniff |
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Indeed - I highly doubt Rich, Grant or any of those guys fuck about with MP3 players - they'd sooner use MD or their own laptops to listen to their own music (especially on a plane) |
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Maybe even portable DATs with headphones :) Keys: Do you mean intentionally? I managed to lose what I consider to be my best "commericial" which I still regret. |
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true, why take the extra step of converting your music to cd audio and THEN to mp3.. why not just listen to cd-r's or convert directly from master tape to MD |
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I found some interesting mp3 called chastic1, chastic2, chastic3 and chastic4. Chastic 3 is the "famous" q-chastic CAT002, but with an inusual enough good quality audio (very strage). Chastic1,2 and 4 are unknown tracks but they could be fakes, it doesn't seem the chastic style, imo. I hope to finish download of track3 and 4 soon. \/\/. |
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The QChastic track is available on CD - On the ART1 Compilation...a joint release between Rephlex & ART (another early IDM.Dance label)....it crops up on EBay quite a lot... So that probably explains the good quality of that MP3 track, Wooofer... CAT002 the EP is just too perfect a part of the Aphex legend to actually exist...a lot of people have been looking for a long time for this record... BTW that ART comp has also got the SOIT-PP & BLUE CALX (as on SAWII) tracks...more very early AFX stuff... |
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do you have a good quality mp3 of soit PP? |
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yeah..I think so...I'll stick it on Elusives server if you want it... |
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cheers may tee |
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i think most people would :D |
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what about Phild? |
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phlid's already on the ftp in good quality (again thanks to jand) |
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The version of CAT002 (Q-Chastic) that is on the ART2 compilation is TOTALLY different than the one that appears on CAT002 (the test pressing). The tracks you found Woofer are fakes, made by someone else. |
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how do you know? i thought there never was a test pressing of q-chastic. |
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There was - it was intended to be a double 10" that was pressed onto double 12" and the area from the edge to the 10" region is smooth. (one track per side) Alan Perry used to have one, and Grant (in his interview I did with him) says the track is not the same as the one on the ART2 compilation. Far, far less than 100 were pressed. |
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i believe you, i'm just surprised cos everything besides this has pointed to it not existing outside of a DAT or a hard drive. i mean mike p knows rdj really well and in his email he said that he's never heard it or seen it, and he's been to rdj's house and rephlex vault(s). plus if it existed in any form it should hypothetically be online and on ebay. MFM and AB5 are limited and they're on. funny world. |
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i ment as in what about phild on the list of unreleased stuff... |
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I thought it was an intended 2x7". I suppose 10" makes more sense though... |
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I've stuck em in the Jand dir...SOIT PP & QCHASTIC...from the ART comp...enjoy.. They are hiqual VBR MP3 encodes so should be a lot cleaner than the 128Kbs encodes out there... |
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Yes, Joyrex do you have any additional knowledge to the Soit PP track on the ART2 compilation? |
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Other than it was done by RDJ, no. Phlid is released - sort of - it came with a magazine on a cassette called 'Secret Tracks 2' (the name of the mag escapes me at the moment and I can't be arsed to look it up). Tits: RDJ told me the DAT for CAT002 were at his parent's house in (_____) (sorry, not going to divulge that, that's personal information) in storage. Since CAT002 was created around the formation of Rephlex Records (and Mike met Rich after he had already formed Rephlex) there is a chance Mike never got to hear it. Of course, this is just speculation, and Q-Chastic IS bollocks - after all, why in the world do a double 10" pressing for 4 tracks? I always thought that was weird. The whole 7" thing was a mistake (a 7 and a 10" are easy to mistake, especially considering that it was cut on a 12" and all anyone had to go by was how much vinyl wasn't etched from the leading edge inward). There are lots of RDJ stuff that is out there that is NOT on the net - and I'm not talking about live shows. That goes for almost any artist - BOC, AE, Squarepusher, you name it. All depends on who has the material, and who they give it to and if those people are as trustworthy as the initial source. |
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i don't live in the uk, names of cities and towns would be useless to me anyway.. don't you find it strange how mike would neverh ave found q-chastic among rdj's other releases at his house or in the vaults? you're right tho about unreleased material. it can and usually does exist in a void between the artist's collection and public domain (the internet). and usually the people who've heard it, which tend to be those who know the artists, are completely silent about what they've heard. of the limited amount of this sort of music i've heard, i haven't told anyone. maybe some day, but not anytime soon. back to rdj tho, he seems fond of cassette tapes (i guess he's probably upgraded to cd-r's and mp3's now?). the SAW 85-92 original tapes, MFM, etc. i bet there're tapes straight on till '96 at the earliest (perhaps still to today). |
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The magazine was either Melody Maker or Select, I think it was Select because I remember them having a "Secret Tracks" tape free once. |
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yeah, It was Select... |
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Yes, i agree with you about fakes, but the track "cat002" has a really good quality compared with the common version. |
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I used to subscribe to Select. From September 1994 to the very last issue January 2001 I had almost every copy. It was a great magazine that got worse all the time, unfortunately. |
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The losing of the mp3 player is true... Long time before this story hit the press, my mate had booked afx to play up in glasgow. Supposedly he turned up with a really sour looking face as he had lost his mp3 player with all the music he was going to Dj with...(much easier to turn up at a gig with something that slips into your pocket than a laptop) and had to go out and buy some replacement records. Which mostly turned out to be ambient.... cue a lot of up for it scots (waiting for some manic drill and bass) rapidly turning angry as aphex played long beatless tracks. |
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Hmmm.... Joyrex? , splodgechops? What do you say bout that? |
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This is one of the most facinating topics ive seen for a while. Its interesting how much people close to rich know about stuff, like cat numbers,etc I just wish I'd seen the vault for a day..(and had a listen of course). |
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cirrus logic, i appreciate your invaluable insight, but it is filled with glaring brain wrongs. Firstly, i was at said gig, and yes he did play the full version of Gwarek 2, which i assume is the beatless track you are referring. This was months and months before drukqs was released and i 'just knew' that it was an afx track and secondly me and me mates thought it sounded fuckin smart, hey, i even busted out a few 'ambient moves' just for good measure. The rest of the set was a torrid implosion of ragga/gabba, black and fucking decker cunt core, hard as fucking nails so it was, i remeber it vividly. And i spoke with rdj after the gig and asked him if he was playing 'live' he admitted to doing so quite a bit lately but not really that night because he had just bought a brand new laptop and hadnt got round to putting all his proggies on it yet. So basically he had his laptop anyway, which would have stored all them mp3's and more, the only thing i agree with is the fact that he did in fact 'clowned it up' and lost the player, why would he bullshit, these things do happen and converse to current belief rdj is in fact a human being, like the rest of us, not a floaty space baby all covered in diamonds and god dust. |
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At this gig he just played ambient and people were getting agro waiting for some beats that never came.. I think this was around the same time he did that gig in London with the large record of ambient and just played both sides and that was his dj set.... early 2000? Now of course the losing mp3 player is true...but if that really contained drukqs tracks etc ahhh who gives a sh** |
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hmmmmm, im not sure we are talking about the same gig, the ultra hardcore noisefest i attended was at the art school, early 2000, and as i said apart from the pleasant and welcome interlude of what turned out to be Gwarek2, it was straight back to hardcore 200+bpm, he played some of the best ragga i ever did hear that night, oh and he played what turned out to be 54 cymru beats, so im not sure who's feeding you this misinformation but the set that night was blinding, maybe your mates couldnt handle the ambient interlude, and to be fair i did see some monkeys looking about not knowing WHAT to do with themselves when he played gwarek2, but it sounded amazing, and thats all that counts. |
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great great thread guys... very very interesting... I only wish I knew about RDJ since the early 90's when he started releasing stuff so I could've followed this stuff, and bought the releases as they came out... ah well, better late then never I guess... |
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I find it difficult to believe that Richard would use an MP3 player of all things to do a DJ gig with, let alone his laptop (had he gotten the Sony VAIO by then?). Bitch/Cirrus: Was that the show at the Glasgow School? |
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yip, glasgow art school, early 2000 replete with kosmik kommando. did you ever get the bootleg of that gig joyrex? |
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Last i saw him at the phlex party in brick lane that got shut down, he was using one of those really small vaios..... |
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No, unfortunately I did not - some chap who contacted me was supposed to hook me up with it (did send me the funny Tony Blair Clip Rich played though), but never followed through with the full show. Shame. |
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