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From what I've heard/seen, the movie looks really good, funny and informative at the same time, as most of his movies are. I love how his movies make you laugh but then when you stop and think about and realize it's real your like, "hey... thats not funny..." |
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but see, if you can be so free to express yourself, why can't Conformist be just as free? but anyway: is the movie really that good? this is the first i've heard of Micheal Moore.. |
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quote me saying something to the effect that i don't want conformist to speak his mind.. the stuff i said that apparently sparked his anger was actually me trying to engage him in debate, not shushing him. yea it was a loaded question but i wanted him to think about how important politics are and how people shouldn't give up on politics because of politicians. elastica: go to michaelmoore.com, he's very fascinating. a jester and a truthspeaker in one. and yes the movie is all that and a bag of chips. so is his movie roger & me, about the economic collapse of his hometown of flint, michigan. |
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we watched roger & me in my economics class my senior year of high school, good shit indeed |
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i rented it a few years ago but spring of this year we watched it in my american capitalism class.. everyone loved it. it's a very universal documentary (as is his new one!). |
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lol dude, you just can't let it go, can you? nobody is impressed by EITHER of your bickering. LET IT DIE AND MOVE ON. |
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roger & me is a great film, hopefully i can catch bowling for columbine soon. |
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i really wish they'd release a dvd of roger & me, the pbs follow-up specials, and any deleted and extended scenes & media coverage of the documentary |
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two: who's trying to impress anyone? seems like it's just you.. |
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how fragile is your ego? you just can't seem to stop. Conformist hasn't even said anything again and yet you keep going and going and going about it. move on dude, it's not that important. |
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i'm just responding to what you and elastic are saying. if it's not that important, why did you resurrect the topic? you're right tho, it's not worth discussing any further. |
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it seems to me he just clarifies himself everytime someone else (like you) brings it up/tries to bash him... I don't understand why that makes you so mad |
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no one cares. |
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obviously you do |
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i don't, you shouldn't, get over it, move on. kthx and bye. |
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I just saw it, excellent film, I really want to see roger and me now and read stupid white men. has he done any other films or books? |
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im at his site nevermind. :) i'll try to check all these out sometime |
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i just saw this tonight and i loved it! especially when they were talking about the africanized bees "you can tell the difference by measuring certain body parts" |
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this thread is extremely hypocritical, elastic, read your posts, you are the one keeping the argument alive! sorry, if this will start even greater arguments but I had to say it. titsworth is being extremely mature about it all, i commend you. |
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didn't bother reading the thread. just did a search for it coz I'm going to see the movie tonight (in about 2 1/2 hours) so I can add some more nonsense to this thread (just read the last post which summarizes it any i think) |
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right, bumped this golden oldie :P because I've just seen it.. I thought it was wonderful - very funny and painful at the same time. the part about columbine itself was very well timed - really hit me in the stomach. I remember Zeus saying in another thread about this film that it made him angry - I can see why.. made me think differently about my life too. we had a dutch professor of American Studies do an introduction. he said that most Dutch people feel less safe than most American people, while the chance of one of us (the Dutch) getting murdered, is more than ten times as small. this fear also boils down to the media overhere, scaring us.. like Moore says.. I did think showing the picture of the little dead girl to Heston was a bit over the top - especially the shot of Moore standing there, with the picture.. : s |
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truth hurts. poor heston. |
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there are some cool movie clips including 'a brief history of america' and the manson interview.......you can download now.... www.michaelmoore.com |
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i enjoyed that manson interview. it was like, "hey, it's that dumb ass attnention-hungry manson... oh wait, he sounds half intellegent." |
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yeah, manson is a very intelligent guy.. |
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still have yet to see it.... |
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huh, just saw it that charlton heston is one scarry guy i dont think im going to visit states any time soon :) |
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saw his movie bout General Motors last night .. that was rather depressing. |
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it doesnt open!? |
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Michael Moore is a hypocrite, a liar and a fraud - no different than most of the things he rails against. He's gaining wealth and power by exploiting and playing off the ignorance of the masses. |
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Michael Moore is a government agent. |
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It wouldn't suprise me. |
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Explain why he's a hypocrite. |
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there was a previous thread about this. he read one article, written by a hardcore conservative using loaded language, and was convinced. "your belief system ain't louder than my car system." |
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I have a question realting to the B.F.C. movie to you americans that might happen to read this: In the movie an interesting thread is pulled about wether it's "Fear" that is behind the disproportionately high figures of murders per capita in the US. Do you americans actually feel any fear right now? I'm talking mostly of these "orange alerts" and the so called "credible sources" that warns of ever more terrifying terrorattacks. One more... Did any of you feel that Iraq as a country could actually be a real threat to the US as a country? Thanks for replies. |
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Damn! I didn't mean to post 3 times... What happened?? |
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yea, we live in a culture of fear imposed by the government and their bitch the media. (what, is this surprising? do some of you still believe in a free press? how sweet.) to elaborate on this |
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read |
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im not against michael moore either, i quite like his material. it just puts things into perspective, that link. |
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that's the thing i just described above, disassemble. it's good to hear the other side but if you actually changed your mind based on that article i feel bad for you. |
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of course i didnt. wasnt "im not against michael more either, i quite like his material" self explanatory? |
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well it doesn't put anything in perspective, that's why i said that |
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hm interesting. I didn't need Michael Moore's movie to let me know some of the things going on in America. And it's obvious that movie is full of propaganda... but that's what it's suppose to be. Showing you the other side of America that isn't shown on CNN. I really like Bowling for Columbine but I don't base my opinions on it. |
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Maybe you couldn't wait and hit the 'Reply' button three times, or just reloaded the confirmation page? |
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-And you're not much different either. |
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i know a flimsy argument when i see one! i also know the difference between having weak points (or no points to stand on) and just not giving a FUCK about the other person enough to debate them. |
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Come off it tits. |
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i dont know if this was covered in that "truth about bowling for columbine" link... but he contradicted himself a few times... like when he said (or implied is more like it, as much of what he was "saying" was) poverty wasn't a big difference between canada and the US first of all, it simply is there are no ghettos in canada he said somehting like "oh, but the unemployment rate is twice as high in canada, so it cant be the poverty thing!" then a few minutes later hes in a canadian 'ghetto' showing us how nice it is (clean with a playground and all) then he was like "but canadians are as gunloving as americans... there are 8 MILLION guns in canada!" wow thats an awful big number mike... he never actually compares it to the number of guns per capita in teh US, but he does say earlier in the movie, during that little cartoon of american history, that the white folks bought "a quater of a million guns" when the ran out into the suburbs so theres obviously a huge difference between the number of firearms per capita in the us and canada, and obviously a huge difference in the level of poverty... his movie was pretty misleading on those points, and you dont even have to look outside of his movie to see that |
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from what i understand, street violence isn't prevalent in canada like it is in the poorest areas of our cities. i believe that's the point he's making by showing canadian "ghettos." he wasn't saying there's no poverty, just that it's not violent poverty like it is here, if you follow what i'm saying. |
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