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offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 16:08 [#00378481]
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you just need to listen to some decent hip hop


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-09-04 16:08 [#00378482]
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Yeah, whereas Boom Bip is very much out there, listen I have
to leave now, see ya tomorrow, bye.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-04 16:08 [#00378483]
Points: 3349 Status: Lurker



I'm lazy ! Can't be arsed to get into rap/hip hop/rnb. I try
and listen to as much as possible but lately I've gotten
fixed on electronica/braindance/idm/whatever and my
knowledge in jazz and classics has been pretty stagnant for
a while. Too much fecking music - too little time auugggh.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-09-04 16:08 [#00378485]
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I think you do, but whatever works for you is OK with me.


 

offline jthm from in my garage (United States) on 2002-09-04 16:09 [#00378486]
Points: 248 Status: Regular



rap sucks there is no talent involved whatsoever



 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2002-09-04 16:09 [#00378487]
Points: 1385 Status: Lurker



give us some shoot outs everyone............WHATS UP
TYRON!!!!! FLOSSIN


 

offline jthm from in my garage (United States) on 2002-09-04 16:09 [#00378489]
Points: 248 Status: Regular



al you have to do is swear alot


 

offline jthm from in my garage (United States) on 2002-09-04 16:10 [#00378492]
Points: 248 Status: Regular



but thats just my opinion



 

offline jthm from in my garage (United States) on 2002-09-04 16:11 [#00378493]
Points: 248 Status: Regular



?



 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-04 16:12 [#00378495]
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untrue the origins or rap are quite noble. political and
social commentary and whatnot. Now it seems to me that it's
all "Yo man gonna fuck that ho then Imma gonna cap you in
the face. You better reco'nise yo" but then again I'm pretty
uneducated in the rap ball court...


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-09-04 16:20 [#00378517]
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"ahhh laserbeak thats so sweet......"
thank you

"why don't they save the rain forrest too"
That would be nice but this is a different subject. To my
understanding ghettorap originally comes from people who are
fed up with the situation in the ghettos. I don't think the
whole glorification of being a gangster and killing people
has a positive effect on the condition these people live in.
It makes more sence to do something positive

"WORLD PEACE!!!!!!! hehe"
you're very "cool" for trying to mock me...


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 16:25 [#00378545]
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"rap sucks there is no talent involved whatsoever"

that's quite possibly one of the stupidest things i've ever
heard. you are therefore, stupid.


 

offline USACID from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-09-04 18:06 [#00378697]
Points: 788 Status: Lurker



i hate:

pdiddy,
jayz,
m&m,
any new girly singers (J. love hewitt)
j lo
madonna,
i hate metallica now,
can't finish them all now

POD sucks, that boy band L/park etc etc

crap crap crap


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-04 19:07 [#00378843]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker



what's this "ghetto rap" stuff? there are more rappers who
live in the ghettos than anywhere else, but the thing is
you've never heard their music because THEY ARE IN THE
GHETTO. unless you yourself live in the ghetto, and hate
your own kind i suppose, the only rappers you've ever
heard.... don't live in ghettos. they live in mansions
unless you listen to underground hip-hop, and you don't
because you wouldn't be making threads like this if you
did.

hip-hop heads don't hate "ghetto rappers". they hate jiggy
rappers and thugs. "ghetto rappers" is what people who don't
know anything about hip-hop hate.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-04 19:12 [#00378858]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker



i'm so glad meho got to this thread before me, he always
represents for hip-hop. thanks miho. i agree with everything
you said, as per usual. and like jonesy said, some of these
punks on this thread don't deserve a rational explanation
just a big old "fuck y'all".


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-04 19:13 [#00378862]
Points: 3349 Status: Lurker



judging music one doesn't know is pretty lame..


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-09-04 19:18 [#00378874]
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Shit! theres alot of ignorance here today!?!?!


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2002-09-04 19:22 [#00378881]
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your generalizations show your ignorance and some of these
posts are borderline racist.
there is good music in virtually all genres and if you base
your whole opinion of a genre on what you see on mtv then
you are really missing out on some good music.

variety is the spice of life and i like my life 5 star
spicy.


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 19:37 [#00378900]
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TonyFish I agree

I HATE "RAP" (meaning gangsta rap)
All this gangsta "i'm gonna fuck yo momma an' bus' a cap in
yo' ass" is unadulterated commercial crap. Just a teenage
fashion craze. I'm amazed that the "rappers" don't feel like
utter juveniles spouting their bullshit.

I love hiphop and rapping is a worthy component of a hiphop
or electro/breakdance track.



 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-04 19:44 [#00378906]
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Loogie: name a popular rapper now who talks about busting a
cap in the listener's ass and busting a nut in the
listener's mother. go ahead, take your time. just one name.


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 19:46 [#00378907]
Points: 1371 Status: Lurker



You saying you think their jive talk is... umm... cool?


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-09-04 19:48 [#00378910]
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No... he said
"name a popular rapper now who talks about busting a
cap in the listener's ass and busting a nut in the
listener's mother. go ahead, take your time. just one name.
"

=)



 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 19:57 [#00378933]
Points: 1371 Status: Lurker



Nope. Beats me. Don't know any names.
Don't know any names of modern rappers full stop.

Your point being


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-04 19:58 [#00378937]
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my point being that you're talking out of your ass. you
can't even name one example to back up your poorly
constructed point; i gave you a chance to validate it but
you can't. so you don't know what you're talking about.


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 20:06 [#00378955]
Points: 1371 Status: Lurker



You're saying that rappers don't say similar things?!
my example was made up admitadly, but will probably appear
in a record next week

I don't names of modern rappers... wtf has that got to do
with anything?! Do you not have pirate radio in the US
I can assure you, similar lyrics are common place

I grew up listening to T La Rock and MC Shan, and rapping
was good but you're too young to remember such class acts.



 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-04 20:17 [#00378979]
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loogie please don't distort what I said. I said that that
was general impression I got from one or two videos but
thats it. I have next to no knowledge about rap and would
never dismiss any genre without having explored it fully
before hand. And even then should i hate all that I heard it
would still be nothing but a matter of opinion...


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-04 20:18 [#00378983]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker



i'm saying that you're 10+ years off. you're thinking of NWA
and Ice-T which was a long time ago. basically i'm calling
you out on a poorly constructed argument; if you're going to
criticize the popular rap of 2002 then at least say
something relevant to it. i can't stand a lot of what's
popular but even i've heard enough of it to know it's a far
cry from threats of murder and rape. you think white girls
like that stuff? think again. the stuff that comes out now
has to have lyrics that appeal to the pop audience, and no..
that doesn't entail "i'm gonna fuck yo momma an' bus' a cap
in
yo' ass".


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 20:22 [#00378996]
Points: 1371 Status: Lurker



The overall point I was trying to make is that I like
rapping as part of hiphop
but hate the predominantly bad attitude rap around these
days...



 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 20:23 [#00378998]
Points: 1371 Status: Lurker



sure it's not all bad attitude, but it's still prolific
agreed?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-04 20:34 [#00379021]
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you mean negativism? in america, mtv and urban radio play
rap that talks about 1) lovey dovey stuff 2) repping crews
(eg: labels, groups, posses) 3) repping yourself as the best
in the game 4) talking about your material wealth and 5)
getting high 6) women are scum 7) lastly and least often,
social commentary.

depends on your POV of those 7 things.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-04 20:39 [#00379040]
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The popular hip hop that they play on MTV and radio make my
blood boil. I feel sick to my stomach when it comes on.

But I know it's just the tip of the iceberg... there's good
hip hop. It isn't my thing, I don't listen to it but I
respect it, and there's more to that genre than just money,
drugs, chicks and bustin' caps.

I know shit about hip hop, but even I can see all the
ignorance in this topic.


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 20:43 [#00379046]
Points: 1371 Status: Lurker



Being negative in rapping isn't bad, it's just like singing
the blues really.

I dislike the thuggism, as per one of your previous posts.

My main gripes with modern "rap" is that:
1. it's rarely accompanied by a funky electro beat (but
hey, times change).
2. the thuggism, and the subsequent endorsement by the likes
of MTV etc that this is hip and trendy


 

offline electro from detroit on 2002-09-04 21:00 [#00379076]
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can we just put ja rule in a human size blender hit the
button?
please
just for me?



 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 21:02 [#00379078]
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yes, do it
can't stand his fucking voice


 

offline Asche XL on 2002-09-04 21:02 [#00379080]
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I SAID IT ONCE, AND ILL SAY IT AGAIN. YOU PEOPLE HATE

EEEVVVERRRYTHHHINNNGGG


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-04 21:06 [#00379091]
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i think there are some awesome beats in hip-hop right now,
but it was better a year ago than it is today. thuggism has
always been a part of hip-hop. mtv has always been a part of
hip-hop, even pete rock and c.l. smooth.


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 21:10 [#00379097]
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is that an anagram of KMFDM?


 

offline GIR from Easton on 2002-09-04 21:13 [#00379100]
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this might be a bit offtopic...but parappa is true gangsta
gangsta.


 

offline GIR from Easton on 2002-09-04 21:16 [#00379104]
Points: 828 Status: Addict



how bout trying some fun rap?

Deltron 3030?

i wouldnt say nelly or them are ghetto

just white boy rap


 

offline Vit C from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 21:17 [#00379106]
Points: 866 Status: Regular



Yea ...Stalls for time whilst trying to recall guys name
Louis Theroux went to a ghetto when he made the docu about
rappers. He looked shit scared most of that show.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-09-04 21:59 [#00379172]
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Deltron 3030 is AMAZING!

i would suggest anyone who hasn't checked Deltron out, d/l
some from slsk (if it's working this minute =b)



 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-04 22:01 [#00379173]
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ok


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 22:01 [#00379175]
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soulseek seems to have disappeared :(


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-04 22:01 [#00379176]
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any tracks in particular ?


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 22:14 [#00379204]
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If you hate outkast, then i have no love for you. None at
all. Not even a little bit. Not a smidgen.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-04 22:59 [#00379319]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker



and, um.. don't forget to BUY deltron 3030 if you end up
liking it. del's not exactly jay-z or eminem when it comes
to sales.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2002-09-04 23:05 [#00379329]
Points: 10965 Status: Regular



there is even good "thug" rap.

quasimoto for example raps about "busting caps" and "looking
under some girls dress" and "stabbin a nigga in the chest
with a pitch-fork" and that album (the unseen) is one of the
best hip hop albums to surface in the last couple years.

he also raps about stopping the "black on black" cuz "that
shit is worse than a klan attack"

so i am making 2 points.
1 generalizing that all rap sux only shows close-mindedness
and ignorance.
2 just because someone raps about shooting people doesn't
mean they are pro violence. often they are rapping about
what they know and/or grew up with. and often, they are
rapping in character (eminem does this). if guns and
shooting were a major part of your life it would probably
influence your music.

and,
rappers aren't the only ones writing about murder.
here are a couple non rap artists that write about killing
people and/or fucking them.
1. bob marley
2. johnny cash
3. trent reznor
4. jon lennon
5. roger waters
6. marylin manson
7. Astrobotnia (part 1)
thats all i can come up with off the top of my head.

so is it the "thug" lyrics that you hate or just that its
black people singing them?



 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2002-09-04 23:07 [#00379339]
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electro.
this message is following up an arguably quite racist
comment of yours.
this is what i mean by ignorance.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-04 23:08 [#00379340]
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what is rock & roll but sex and violence? i think "rap" has
been given a bad rap. :)

i love tons of "thug" hip-hop. it can be done really well or
it can be very sloppy and insultingly juvenile. my taste in
hip-hop just isn't limited to thug rap but everything has
its place.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-09-04 23:18 [#00379359]
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yipes TF......i have been off chatting and didn't notice
your question!

sometracks off Deltron:

- Battle Song

- Madness

- Mastermind

- The News (A Wholly Owned Subsidiary Of Microsoft Inc.)

- Things You Can Do

- Virus

sheesh just d/l the whole album and BUY it if you like it.
it was hard for me to find tho.......ordered it from 75Ark
finally!


 


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