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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-05-11 20:29 [#00215340]
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you just need piece of pussy to enjoy life, that's all. put that in your hash pipe and smoke it.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-11 20:29 [#00215341]
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hehe... :)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-11 20:30 [#00215342]
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agreed!!! :)
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-05-11 20:31 [#00215343]
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i need my fix now =)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-11 20:34 [#00215344]
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funkmaster, why is the drugs that are bad? ain't their fucking fault they are abused by addicts is it?? you say "agreed!" to PUSSY...but would a rape victim be bad because some sex-addict felt moved to forcibly fuck her? i doubt it --- same principle
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-11 20:38 [#00215348]
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man, I'm not trying to push my views on you, and you're not going to convince me that drugs are ok... I'm just stating that I think drugs are bad news... it's my opinion... if you don't agree, well it's too bad...
and man, rape is always an extremely bad thing to do... there is no excuse... if you assumed that I was saying that a rape victim would be bad in that situation because I agreed with Albertobalsalm, then you my friend are wrong... I did not say that... and I did not imply that either...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-11 20:45 [#00215351]
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i said that i doubted you would find a rape victim to be bad--- have another read... i was trying to make you see the ignorance of your statement "drugs are bad"... i never saw a drug pick up a gun and shoot someone in the head -- so why apply a human condition onto drugs? and where do you draw the line with drugs? do you drink soda? put sugar or salt on your food? if so, you take drugs -- is it just drugs the government say are bad that you "think" are bad? pray, tell all....
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-11 20:45 [#00215352]
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"get high on life!! "
please, you are sounding like christians now =)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-11 20:52 [#00215356]
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hmmm, yes, it's still the person that makes the mistake to take too much drugs... but, to relate this to guns... guns by themselves never kill anything right? And so, couldn't you imply from this that it's the desire to kill that kills people with guns? Well, what would be wrong then with letting a 5 year old play with guns? What reason would they have to desire to kill themselves, or others? But, mistakes do happen, and you obviously wouldn't let a 5 year old play with guns because a mistake could easily happen, and the gun could be shot off and the kid, or someone else could get killed... well, mistakes happen, and with drugs they are just as likely to happen, no matter how educated you are on drugs... I think drugs are an unneccary risk, and I just don't have a desire to put my life at risk in that way... if you do, then go ahead... just be careful...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-11 20:52 [#00215357]
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hey, Recycle said it first here... :)
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-05-11 20:55 [#00215359]
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girls can get high on me if they'd like.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-11 20:58 [#00215361]
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and no, I think all drugs are bad for you... in some way... some more so then others... I do drink coffee, but I know it's bad for my system the amounts of coffee I drink, but I still don't believe I'll ever overdose on caffeine from drinking the amounts of coffee I do drink... maybe you'll come back at me and say it's hypocritcal of me, but I still think drugs like cocaine and heroine are TOTALLY different from caffeine... with cocaine and heroine you're putting your life on the line every time you use them pretty much, with caffeine it's not like that... and yes, I do know that some drugs like marijuana are not close to being as harmful as cocaine or heroine, but still, I don't have a desire to use them... and I still think marijuana, like caffeine, has a negative affect on the body, and is still bad, but not as bad...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-11 21:16 [#00215371]
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I've said it before, I believe in most things in moderation....and no wise cracks about bestiality etc!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-11 21:18 [#00215376]
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so you are saying that the guns aren't bad,even if a 5year-old picked one up (being the responsibility of the gunowner) and drilled a hole in the head of another child? therefore, guns are dangerous if in irresponsible hands....same as drugs. banning something because irresponsible people can't handle them is not a real solution -- it is a lazy, ill-thought out answer.
and if you think marijuana is bad physically, why are so many doctors in favour of its decriminalisation? do you have any evidence or is it just an implanted "instinct"? drugs is a blanket term used by the ignorant to disguise their lack of intelligence and/or knowledge
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-11 21:21 [#00215378]
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Bestiality is good tho!
Oh wait... did I say that out loud?
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urb
from Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-05-11 21:31 [#00215385]
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only in moderation
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-11 21:50 [#00215393]
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well, whatever floats your boat..
YOU SICKO ERRRRRR!
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-05-11 21:57 [#00215396]
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that blows
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MO2
from Minneapolis, MN (United States) on 2002-05-11 22:04 [#00215397]
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marlowe....so true... Ophecks, you say you don't preach about drugs, but every time the topic comes up....well, you preach...although I respect the fact that you stay away from that shit.... it's just nice to try to see what the fuss is all about...
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-11 22:24 [#00215402]
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I don't see anything wrong with using a bit of drugs. I like LSD, and consider it one of the only illegal drugs I still use, along with MDMA. I don't smoke pot. I don't smoke hash. I don't use mushrooms. I don't do anything hard.
I hate drug dealers. I hate those people that like to smoke as much pot as possible, and then argue its for medicinal purposes. I hate drug culture.
This is where I stand.
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Phatbert 000
from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-05-11 22:40 [#00215404]
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Yeah, drug dealers are almost always horrible cunts. Legalize hash and the most widely available drug's dealers are gone. Less hassle :-)
erm, couldn't think of anything else to say about drugs that hasn't already been said.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-11 22:59 [#00215415]
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yeah i stand pretty much where you stand taxi -- so budge up, you're squashing me ;)
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-11 22:59 [#00215417]
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You canot overdose on marijuana techincly but you can get to high that you start breathing all weird and your heart races, far from an overdose, just too high.
Ophecks: hhaa.. I thought it was
Drugs Drugs Drugs, Which are good which are bad? Ask your dealer not your dad.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-11 23:04 [#00215424]
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I heard it was 15pounds within a 24hr period to overdose. An ammount which is baisically impossible for just about anyone.
Marlowe; Alright... this time you win... but next time!!! Next time I will be mine!!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-11 23:05 [#00215425]
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Ummm. yeah... I mean... next round will be mine... I even did the HTML formatting. You'd think I would get it right, wouldn't you?
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-11 23:09 [#00215431]
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I agree with the Funkmaster, drugs are dangerous full stop! You fools that do drugs are dicing with death!
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-11 23:12 [#00215432]
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if you smoke a joint, its 100% harmless man.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-11 23:16 [#00215434]
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I don't want to sound mean when I say this, but I think using absolutes in talking about drugs is an indication of ignorance.
Of course, I wouldn't touch a lot of the harder drugs with a really long stick. But marijuana used in moderation is harmless. Even when abused the only negative side affect really is that the user doesn't do anything other than sit around and watch movies. Not really much of a life, but not dangerous to any degree.
Honestly, I feel that alcohol is far more dangerous than a lot of light drugs. How many people die per year from alcohol related incedences (drunk driving, public violence, poisoning, etc), and then look at the ammount of people who die from Marijuanna, Hash, Mushrooms, LSD, Ecstacy, etc.
But like I said, I don't really like drugs.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-11 23:17 [#00215435]
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Drugs are bad - no matter what!
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-11 23:19 [#00215438]
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Taxidermist: thanks for the great comment, because we hardly have anyone on this site that will say something like that without enjoying drugs.
Im tellin ya, its the misconceptions about drugs that hurt people more than anything. Half truths and such.
I used to touch the hard drugs on an hourly basis, being an addict for so long, and eating LSD like candy and all the rest.... so many different drugs to try..... so many..... 100's.
Thats in the past, now I smoke some pot, and drink, thats it. Thats my choice, I could care less what anyone else did. Its not my body.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-11 23:19 [#00215439]
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Are you a medical professional?
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-11 23:20 [#00215440]
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Jedi Chris thats pretty ignornat.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-11 23:22 [#00215442]
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Jedi Chris: do you want to know how much information ive read from actual books and reports NOT on the internet? I was taught that one part of rehabilitation was to read about what I was doing with my life, and a large percentage of the internet is misconceptions and half truths and ignorant opinions such as yours.
They have proven the most effective way to let kids know drugs may be bad, or can be without moderation is by letting them know all the facts, instead of going "ALL DRUGS ARE BAD". Thats ridiculous.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-11 23:23 [#00215445]
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chris get out of the pulpit would you?
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-11 23:24 [#00215447]
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When you know someone who has died from drug abuse, then I am entitled to such an opinion. So don't lecture me about ignorance Reflex!!! To think that it is cool to use any sort of drug, even in moderation is stupid. Using the idea of moderation to justifying having a good time is ridiculous - what happens when you enjoy yourself too much! Let me tell you what - it'll be too late! Corn mouth's friend was lucky!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-11 23:26 [#00215448]
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It doesn't take a medical professional to figure that out... just a little common sence. Besides. Most health professionals will agree with what I have said there. A lot of that little rant I gave above was me paraphrasing what I have heard from health professionals on the matter.
I really dislike government control over drugs... or anything for that matter.
I would just like to add that in Canada, harm reduction clubs and growth of Marijuana for medicinal purposes is, for all intents and porposes, legal. This I feel is a good thing, altho there are a lot of assholes out there who get something like a small headache and then say that the smoke pot just to kill the pain.
Once again, I am going to clarify that I do not smoke pot, or use most drugs.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-11 23:33 [#00215451]
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I accept what you are saying Taxidermist, but I wouldn't think for one moment that any of the people here who do drugs, are doing so for medicinal purposes!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-11 23:33 [#00215452]
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chris :-
contrary to whatever school/govt. propaganda you have been exposed to, not EVERYONE takes drugs to be cool -- whole tribes base ancient rituals around the imbibing of a certain drug at a certain time of the year -- there are lots and lots of people who take psychoactives to explore outer reaches of consciousness - they aren't hanging around schools saying "this is cool -- take this peyote button or you'll be out of fashion" - there are people who take hash for pain relief -=- prescribed by doctors, who ARE medical professionals.
you are using old and tired arguments mainly put forth by ignorant swine, brainwashed mothers and other beasts of burden
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-11 23:36 [#00215455]
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I haven't heard anyone here justify their use of Marijuana as being medicinal either. I just think that recreation use of light drugs is harmless. Not productive at all, but not dangerous.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-11 23:37 [#00215456]
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So do you think I am stupid for my 'not doing drugs' behaviour?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-11 23:38 [#00215460]
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chris :-
people who smoke a joint and feel relaxed - you can class that as being a medical purpose
people who take psychoactives to explore themselves - you can class that as being a medical purpose
before you accuse me of twisting your words, i am not -- i am just using a different yet legitimate definition...people take drugs for lots of reasons, and when someone comes along and starts preaching at them, they tend to get annoyed -- maybe even hostile -- so why not just admit that you aren't in a situation to comment? so someone you knew died of drug abuse? single case -- anyone who tries to apply a specific case to a general argument is ignorant in the ways of logical thought...
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-11 23:39 [#00215461]
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Will you guys stop reading into this all so much?
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-11 23:41 [#00215464]
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We should agree to disagree on this matter I think?
OK?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-11 23:41 [#00215466]
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that would make a hypocrite, since i stopped taking drugs about 3 years ago. it is your "all drugs are bad" stance that riles me - i dont give a fuck if you don't take drugs - im not about to judge you on that score if that's what you're hoping for...you just come off sounding like some ardent 12 year-old whos just been to one of those "smoking kills" lectures that they lay on little kids.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-11 23:43 [#00215468]
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You can think whatever you want to think....this is just one of those matters where we are not going to agree with each other!
Sorry!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-11 23:44 [#00215469]
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Hey, have you guys checked out this topic here? Its rad!!
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-11 23:51 [#00215478]
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Just read it. You are right!
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-12 00:33 [#00215525]
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Jedi Chris: phh what do you know? one person died from drugs you know? I can think of atleast 7 or 8 that have died and are in the process of doing drugs and dyin from it.
you do sound like a misinformed kid who just went to a smoking kills lecture like marlowe said.. I think it was him.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-12 00:38 [#00215540]
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yeah it was me
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-12 00:48 [#00215559]
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Fuck you!
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