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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 01:53 [#00215734]
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weren't trying, but were.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-12 01:53 [#00215735]
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but you see, i genuinely want you to be informed and to research the subject -- i believe if people actively researched things, rather than rely on biased and corrupt media/government/corporate sources, then the power base COULD shift -- its empowerment of the people -- i dont want hatred, i want people to think hell! i think i'll go down the bookshop and buy some books on the subject, or some such -- just so they have several frames of reference to help them make a decision, or to inform a draft of an opinion
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 01:55 [#00215738]
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it's a bit much to ask someone to be well informed on issues they care nothing for, but if you aren't going to inform yourself on the topic of "drugs" then don't say they are bad. simply sit back and admit you don't know.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-12 01:56 [#00215741]
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I'm not going to change my mind on this subject, and if my opinion on the subject annoys anyone or offends then I am sorry - but thats just the way I feel!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:57 [#00215742]
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but I think they are, which is all I've been saying... I never claimed to be an expert...
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 01:57 [#00215743]
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how can you say drugs are bad for the body? some are in large doses, some are not. dmt, the most powerful psychedelic known, is produced in your brain.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-12 01:58 [#00215745]
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Here's a final thought on the matter. Is my life, or anyone else's any worse off for not getting involved in drugs?
(Please no arguments...)
:)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:58 [#00215746]
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I agree man... but like jupitah said, it's a bit much to ask people to try and be well informed on issue they're not interested in... but, anything I am interested in I do research...
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 01:58 [#00215747]
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well, it's good to know that there is yet another person with an opinion based on... what do you base it on?
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 01:59 [#00215751]
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no one asked you to do drugs, what are you talking about?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-12 01:59 [#00215754]
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because I do... look, I don't want to argue anymore... or "discuss" :)... you don't think they are that bad in moderation, and I do... so we have a difference of opinion, lets just end it at that...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-12 02:00 [#00215755]
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well, I'm not totally clueless about drugs...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-12 02:01 [#00215756]
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anyways, I'm finished with this topic... :)
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 02:01 [#00215758]
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continue. or should i take your word for it?
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-12 02:02 [#00215762]
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I'm finished with this topic too!
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-05-12 02:03 [#00215763]
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Of course most drugs are bad for the body, they do have physical side effects, in case you weren't aware of it.
I get high all the time, but I'm not about to tell myself it's not bad for me. That's what is called a self-reinforcing dilusion.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 02:05 [#00215769]
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yeah some do, but so does salt. it so happens that the most powerful psychedelic known is not however. in fact, it's in your blood right now. so to say that drugs are bad for the body is a simplification. too much water is bad for the body.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-12 02:05 [#00215770]
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What's that all about? Is my life, or anyone else's worse off because I forgot to wank off this morning?
I don't like people posting saying "please close this topic" and posting saying "please no arguments." It makes you sound conceited, if you weren't aware.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-05-12 02:06 [#00215773]
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I'm glad to see that you agree with me then.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-12 02:10 [#00215782]
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yeah -- the body is only a temporary domain -- why cling onto it like a scared kitten? live a little - take a chance -- so you might die a couple of years early? whats 10 years in a universe 15 billion years old? smoking a joint isn't gonna turn you into a raving drug fiend; the chances are you won't smoke a joint and then feel the urge to smoke a crack-pipe....one can either sit in their bedroom jacking off to princess leah, or one can go out and search for adventure, a life of chance, quick wittedness -- who knows, you might be high on acid and suddenly reach nirvand or pranayama! then you will laugh at yourself for being so mundane! walking thru the stinking rush hour traffic damages your body -- drinking cocacola damages your body -- eating candy damages your body -- jerking off makes you go blind! -- like bill hicks said "non-smokers die too" (i quit smoking in october im pleased to say - i quit coffee two weeks ago, and i am quitting chocolate bars and coke too -- weening myself off it)
anyways, i am interested in my health - i work out, i do martial arts, but even bruce lee smoke dope and see how quick he was!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-12 02:11 [#00215785]
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I feel it is possible to take life too seriously. But I don't think thats what I meant when I was talking about over reacting.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 02:12 [#00215788]
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ahah! so are you also of the opinion that we are all as old as the universe?
never thought of jerkin it to princess leah, will have to keep that in mind.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 02:14 [#00215794]
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ok, but for the record i don't think i overreacted. thats a matter of opinion though. i just wanted to know the reasoning behind the anti-drug views.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-12 02:24 [#00215817]
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I'm an expert on drugs...
jands 2 laws of drugs (all you really need to know..)...
#1.. Drugs are OK to use sensibly... #2...It's fucking hard to use Drugs sensibly...
there's a test at the end of the week so you better all remember this..;)...
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 02:25 [#00215820]
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open notes? this is complex.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-12 02:26 [#00215821]
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i come here to avoid studying for tests, and this is what you give me?!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-12 11:40 [#00216193]
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I didn't think i'd see *you* guys arguing quite like this. I'm not going to write off drugs completely and have no problems with the users (just so happens the users I know are loser twats) but as someone said, if you want to do drugs, your call, its your life. I personally am never (hopefully) going to go near any pill form drugs etc since my mother is allergic to loads of drugs (but that's hoping any spliffs won't be spiked)
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-12 11:49 [#00216201]
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funkmaster: yeah, I do know a few people that died from drugs, and you know since I was in the life for years, YES it does make me much more well informed than you. this isnt a privelage its the way it is. it doesnt make me better, it means I know more.
Its hard to know first hand about something if youve never been apart of it before.
Jedi Chris: its all the same man, you just get up on your soap box and tell people DRUGS ARE BAD and im sure everyone will appreciate you for what you have to say. Which is next to... nothing?
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-12 15:21 [#00216360]
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Don't get coming back here and trying to start arguing again, 'cos it aint gonna happen!
I refuse to get drawn into this discussion with you again!
:)
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-05-12 16:00 [#00216393]
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Well I read this entire thing (some 180 posts) and I'll say one thing.
Corn_Mouth: I feel sorry for your girlfriend, and you for the panic.
I feel more sorry for anyone whose never listened to (or should I experienced) SAW II on LSD.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-12 16:22 [#00216405]
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yeah i dig that last comment, Xanatos
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-05-12 16:26 [#00216408]
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Have some JUNGLE!!!
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-05-12 19:00 [#00216527]
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I agree--drugs aren't necessary. I don't even take OTC medication unless I'm really, really sick.
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-05-12 19:22 [#00216561]
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"I don't even take OTC medication unless I'm really, really
sick."
I'm the same way. I feel that its important that people don't distinguish it as legal drugs -- good! illegal drugs -- bad! I don't know if anyone can tell the difference of right and wrong for you, but I'm sure as hell that the government can't. (That sentance was a bit convoluted but you know what I mean)
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zzligg
from Allen,TX (United States) on 2002-05-12 19:25 [#00216568]
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I've been clean for a little over 4 months now, but it took me dying (i actually flatlined) to realize i had a problem. Drugs destroyed everything i once held dear and now i'm having to rebuild everything from the ground up. After my OD i quit and i feel much better than i ever have.
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corn_mouth
from santiago (Chile) on 2002-05-12 23:13 [#00216919]
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i can´t believe this thread went this long...For all of you who actually cared about the "initial message", well, i thank your concern, my girl´s alright now. I´m gonna have to take better care of her in the future. Regardless of all the opinions here stated, i just wanted to say thanx guys.
;)
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-12 23:15 [#00216923]
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awwwwww ;)
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-12 23:18 [#00216931]
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I'm glad she is OK
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-12 23:32 [#00216947]
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yes, I really am glad she's ok as well...
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-05-12 23:37 [#00216953]
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are you limiting her to the amount/if any of the drugs she takes?
don't let her do drugs! god damn... be a nice boy friend and take care of her before it's too late. however, i hope you & her regret this coz it's a shame something like this has to bring one couple closer. did it? is it?
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-13 11:48 [#00217680]
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quoth...he can't take care of her and stop her from taking drugs...(this is from experience) he can't save her, he can only be the understanding b/friend and be there for her when she needs him, she needs to come to her own senses and help herself, just encourage her and let her know that it is possible, above all, give her space!!!!!!!!!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-13 12:44 [#00217777]
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Are you talking about DMT?
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