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offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2024-11-15 21:29 [#02639442]
Points: 6514 Status: Lurker



>> there still is some sensible people running the system
and
institutions
listen to what you are saying
they are not fucking priests, then can be sacked, they
should always (like the rest of us) be in fear of being
sacked


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2024-11-15 21:32 [#02639443]
Points: 6514 Status: Lurker



the entire civil service in UK needs to be sacked
every single NGO, charity, human rights whatever,WHISPERED
INTO NOTHING



 

offline Cliff Glitchard from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2024-11-16 01:47 [#02639449]
Points: 4158 Status: Lurker | Followup to dariusgriffin: #02639438



“they're trying to appeal to right wing people who are
not their base”

I’m struggling to see where there was any attempt to
appeal to the right? The msm certainly wasn’t portraying
that. A warmongering Liz Cheney’s endorsement was about as
powerful as Cardi B’s.

The downturn in votes for Harris compared with Biden’s win
only adds to the speculation the Dems cheated 2020. What
with Biden’s record vote coming in almost half the
counties that Obama won, whilst also losing key swing
states.

Kamala Harris had a run for president in 20, before 4 years
as VP. Then tried to hide from any meaningful scrutiny on
policies.

Nothing about her was ever trying to appease the right.



 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2024-11-16 02:10 [#02639450]
Points: 1997 Status: Regular | Followup to dariusgriffin: #02639438



But the Dems are those things, or are California and San
Fransisco just aberrations?


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-11-16 03:33 [#02639451]
Points: 3638 Status: Lurker



wolfslice is from frisco and he's a woke gay nonbinary
transracial communist drag queen gamer but I think he votes
libertarian


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-11-16 03:34 [#02639452]
Points: 3638 Status: Lurker



sorry, they them


 

offline kei9 from Argentina on 2024-11-16 20:26 [#02639453]
Points: 425 Status: Lurker



LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-11-17 02:08 [#02639454]
Points: 4880 Status: Regular | Followup to Tony Danza: #02639451



get it straight man. I'm a otherkin-adjacent muslim furry.

An acquaintance told me recently his wife is "anti-natalist"
and I literally laughed out loud in his face at just the
term. But now I'm an anti-natalist as well, for clout.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-11-17 10:42 [#02639462]
Points: 12385 Status: Lurker | Followup to Cliff Glitchard: #02639449



I'm sorry but you're quite literally being crazy if you
think electoral fraud in the order of 20 million votes is
the more likely explanation and I beseech you to get out of
whatever bizarre social media bubble you've embedded
yourself into.

A Democratic strategist says they warned key Harris
surrogates and top-level officials at the Democratic
National Committee that campaigning with Liz Cheney — and
making the campaign’s closing argument about how many
Republicans were supporting Harris — was highly unlikely
to motivate any new swing voters, and risked dissuading
already-despondent, infrequent Democratic voters who had
supported Biden in 2020. The strategist says they also
attempted to have big donors and battleground state party
chairs convey the same argument to the Harris campaign.

Another Democratic operative close to Harrisworld says they
sent memos and data to Harris campaign staffers underscoring
how, among other things, Republican voters, believe it or
not, vote Republican — and that the data over the past
year screamed that Democrats instead needed to reassure and
energize the liberal base and Dem-leaning working class in
battleground states. “We were told, basically, to get
lost, no thank you,” says the operative.


https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/har
ris-cheney-democrats-campaign-trump-election-2024-123515880
5/



 

offline Cliff Glitchard from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2024-11-17 17:32 [#02639473]
Points: 4158 Status: Lurker



I’m not on any social media to be in a bubble.
Also there wasn’t a 20m voter swing. It’s far less, but
besides the point, as I never suggested that was the case.
Merely the down turn adds to the speculation, in which only
needed narrow wins in key swing states to win the electoral
college.

It does make me laugh you credit a social media bubble for
opinion, while posting a rolling stone article.

Didn’t seem to be an issue prior to the election within
that media bubble, who were busy claiming Harris ran the
perfect campaign.



 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-11-17 18:51 [#02639477]
Points: 4880 Status: Regular



I've never once seen darius compose a direct response
argument where she *didn't* lump the opposing viewpoint in
with some fringe strawman ideology that was never really
part of the base argument.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-11-17 20:44 [#02639479]
Points: 12385 Status: Lurker | Followup to Cliff Glitchard: #02639473



yeah dude sorry i'm taking into account the social context
of public discourse, i know sociology is entirely foreign to
libertarians

It does make me laugh you credit a social media bubble
for
opinion, while posting a rolling stone article.

it's a pretty mainstream culture magazine so i don't really
know what you mean by that. i'm also not really seeing what
would be controversial about the reporting in this
particular article.

Didn’t seem to be an issue prior to the election
within
that media bubble, who were busy claiming Harris ran the
perfect campaign.

i wouldn't know, i don't read lib media or particularly care
about them. anything you can point me to?


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-11-17 20:48 [#02639480]
Points: 12385 Status: Lurker



oh and you're absolutely right, i hadn't looked at more
recent numbers and it's more like a 7.5 mil difference. that
doesn't really make the fraud theory less mad though, let's
be serious.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-11-17 22:25 [#02639482]
Points: 3638 Status: Lurker | Followup to Wolfslice: #02639477



darius insists that my criticisms of neocon meddling in
Ukraine are because I want Putin to put trans women in
concentration camps. The Moar You Know


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-11-19 16:49 [#02639494]
Points: 7836 Status: Regular | Followup to Tony Danza: #02639482 | Show recordbag



day one!

we all know elections go about:
money and power/status

you vote who you expect to give you more.
thats why trump won.
simple as that.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-11-19 16:50 [#02639495]
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oh yeah and lobbyism


 


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