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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 11:00 [#00184022]
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i got 'another green world' , 'muics for films' and 'ambient 1-music for airports' which is lush, in all i saved 18 quid on those!!!. aprt from music for airports, which is just lush, i dont know much about eno, so spending 3.99 on a cd isnt much of a gamble!! music for films is good-dark moody and beutiful. have been intrigued by eno ever since i heard his collaborations on bowies 'low' and 'heroes'....
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-19 11:03 [#00184024]
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Where are the Eno albums for £3.99 Jonesy?
I liked the use of "An Ending (Ascent)" in the NSPCC adverts. Very effective.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 11:04 [#00184027]
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check out Eno's Shutov Assembly: one of the best ambient albums i've heard (and bear in mind that I tend to consider the term "ambient" as an insult)
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 11:06 [#00184031]
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is that a colaboration meho? what year was that? ceri-i found more of a selection of eno in the sale in the 'eno' section....going through all the sale trash can be a ball ache.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 11:06 [#00184032]
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Meho: I LOVE ambient music!!!
Ceri: HMV
Ken: I've got Music for Airports on vinyl but its a bit crackly and I can't play it when I go to bed so I'll pick that up. I saw Here Come the Warmjets. Does anyone rate this?
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 11:09 [#00184034]
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the piano track off music for airports is gorgeous-is here come the warm jets an eno album?? phil collins drums on 'another green world'!!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 11:10 [#00184038]
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Yeah it is. Phil Collins? Oh dear. We'll forgive Mr Eno that one.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 11:11 [#00184043]
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Ken: no, it's a solo effort and all the better for that, a collection of stuff done between i think '86 and '90. One of the best of his albums I've heard
Jonesy: well, me too when it's good but most of it is cheesy crap.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 11:13 [#00184046]
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i know- i had a dilemna parting with my four quid i can tell you. luckily its not on the same level as his future abominations....
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 11:15 [#00184048]
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I thought it was an album proper from before then?! Maybe not then.
Yeah Meho, they've flooded the market with ambient/chill out compilations for late 20s/early 30s white collar workers who buy their furniture from Ikea.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 11:18 [#00184052]
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haha!!! its as though the government are telling everybody THAT THEY NEED TO CHILL OUT!! ITS THE LATEST CRAZE!!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 11:20 [#00184054]
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yeah, but i don't even consider that ambient, was talking more about Eno/ Paul Schutze/ Bill Laswell/ Mick harris style... I like some of it but a lot of it is just like watching hardcore porn but with no penetration and no cumshot and with no erotic atmosphere whatsoever
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 11:20 [#00184055]
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They put some really good stuff on them (always the same tracks) but it cheapens them. Its all repackaged for easy consumption and for a high income young market. Its so cynical.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 11:22 [#00184056]
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I'm intrigued about your erotic atmosphere fixation. What constitutes an erotic atmosphere. Surely wah-wah peddle guitar music is enough no?
By the way, what music do they have on contemporary porn films?
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 11:26 [#00184058]
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do they still have the 'kenny karkin' style saxaphone on the go over a slowed down drum machine beat-or do they play hectic voodoo jazz, ala miles davis, bitches brew era??
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 11:28 [#00184059]
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who the fucks 'kenny karkin'?? i meant some other saxaphone player called kenny...he did 'air on a g-strig' (hahahahaha)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 11:32 [#00184061]
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Kenny G?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 11:33 [#00184063]
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Actually, I used that comparison just for fun... But I dunno, erotic for me means something disturbing (but in a good way), something that moves you on the unconscious level, something that shakes your civilisation-build habits.. Erotic music? Eh, well, the only thing I can think of is noise, japanese (Merzbow, Filament etc.) and other (john zorn for instance) because of its obvious physical impact... As for the contemporary porn soundtracks, well, I have to say it was better in the seventies with that mixture of disco and wah-wah driven rock, most of today's stuff has awful music: the last one I've watched (just this morning) has some awful dance/ ambient music in it... atrocious.
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afxanna
from malmö (Sweden) on 2002-04-19 11:39 [#00184065]
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ha interasting topic ..........my favourit joydivision tunes are transmission, love will tear us apart and shadowlands.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 11:42 [#00184066]
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yeah kenny g-thats the one
'the last one i watched, just this morning'!!-hahah!, meho, you must have right arm the size of hamburg!!
hello there afxanna-there are two versions of love will tear us apart, i prefer the alternative mix (the one that isnt on substance)-has a great sythnth part in the middle....
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 11:45 [#00184067]
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well, you have to have a hobby, don't you?
I actually always avoided Joy Division precisely because of "Love will tear us apart", always been too cheesy for me, I never had much patience for that goth mourning mood. But Now I knoe better...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 11:47 [#00184068]
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speaking of Kenny G, anyone knows Mos Def's song "Rock 'n' Roll"? Fantastic music and fantastic lyrics, among others things he says: "Kenny G ain't got no soul, John Coltrane is Rock and Roll"!!! And it all ends in a punk thrash!!! A genius!!!
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 11:49 [#00184069]
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is that you in the piccie meho or is it that godflesh geezer again???
how much porn do you own? is it on the same scale as bill hicks?? (rear entry volumes one-forty)...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 11:51 [#00184070]
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Yeah I know. "You may dig on the Rolling Stones but they didn't come up with that shit on their own".
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 11:52 [#00184071]
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yeah, that's justin again, but I'll upload my pic in a minute, solely for your pleasure. Well, my porn collection is humble: about 8GB of pics, some CDs of DiVX stuff (I ve just had a computer for 2 months) and about 100-150 magazines...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 11:54 [#00184072]
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yeah, yeah and the one that says: "I don't need no Korn to get it on".
href="http://www.urbansmarts.com/reviews/albums/elpfandam.h BTW, new El-P's album is almost out, check the link: ovdebodibrate
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 11:55 [#00184073]
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whoops, I shouldn't mess with html if I can't make it work:
http://www.urbansmarts.com/reviews/albums/elpfandam.htm
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 11:57 [#00184076]
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100-150!!! I think I only ever bought four and threw them away. Where the fuck do you hide 150?!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 12:03 [#00184078]
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I live in a large house and I keep my room messy on purpose. And my mother died 12 years ago so that reduced my problems with parents looking for improper content in my room to 50%
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 12:03 [#00184079]
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meho-you ever thought of opening a museum??
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 12:08 [#00184083]
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no, no, it's not such an enviable collection. I know a guy with a largest record collection in my coutry (a famous music journalist as the fate would have it) and he also has the largest collection of snuff porn. Not something he brags about around, neither something I'd wish having but that is something that you could talk about in terms of collectors value. Mine collection is really very amateurish...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 12:08 [#00184084]
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Didn't Stalin have a huge collection of porn?
Not comparing you to Stalin dude!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 12:10 [#00184089]
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I read that snuff films had never been found (by the relevant authorities).
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 12:10 [#00184090]
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Ha, ha... Not that I thought you were. I wouldn't know, never heard that but that would make him even more mythical in my eyes... Likewise: Hitler was a vegeterian, at least he called himself one and at the same time ate sausages and red meat...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 12:11 [#00184091]
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what do you exactly mean? That officially they don't exist?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 12:14 [#00184094]
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I was flicking through a book by feminits against the anti-porn lobby. In one essay about snuff films it alluded to the fact that they were like some kind of urban myth. That no one ever saw one, including the police/obscene publications squad.
Are we talking films with real deaths in or just ones with child abuse and shit?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 12:14 [#00184095]
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I decided that instead uploading my own pic again, I'll put this lovely skinny girl up.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 12:15 [#00184096]
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yeah, i heard that they didnt officially exist-in that none had ever been officially relased-we're talikg torture/executions, right?? have you ever seen one of these meho? i heard that the ones that claim to be official are in fact fake? (not a government cover-up type skam i can assure you...)
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 12:17 [#00184100]
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Deaths, man, killings, although Rape/ abuse fits in the same category as far as I am concerned. well, I never really saw one either but saw a lot of ads for that shit and that film "Hardcore", with George Scott was pretty convincing
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-19 12:18 [#00184102]
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eeeuuurrgh-i heard some preety fucked stories about one...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 12:19 [#00184104]
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I mean, who knows, but I really believe that there are people willing to pay to see that and that there are people willing to make money off it. What with all those video compilations of various accidental death scenes and executions: no sexual content there, but still shuff enough
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 12:20 [#00184106]
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There'd be no point killing someone for real when it can be faked so easily.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 12:23 [#00184111]
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That sounds reasonable, but then again you could argue that there is no need for hardcore porn when you can act things out easily and still there it is. I dunno...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 12:24 [#00184113]
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Yeah but you can't fake penetrative sex.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 12:30 [#00184119]
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likewise, successfully faking slitting someone's throat or chopping their fingers off and their appropriate reactions demand certain production standards that I'm not sure these people have. I dunno, I would love to believe snuff is just a myth but so far, I believe it exists...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 12:36 [#00184125]
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I've always wondered if Animal Farm exists are whether its just fallacy. I've heard tens of people who've talked about it but no one that has seen it. I know bestiality videos exist (I'm not that naive) but they're not very common.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 12:42 [#00184132]
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yeah, hemm, I have a lot of photo-stories with animals in my magazines and have watched a video (a very good porn film actually) where this guy fucks a horse (err, a she-horse actually, is it a mare?) and I always wondered how come they never stop to wonder about hygiene issues? I have a lot of pics of women sucking on horse and donkey dicks, being fucked by dogs, and there's one where a woman is fucked (I should prolly say "has sex with" but to hell with PCness) by a Boar. I mean, just imagine how dirty that must be
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-19 12:43 [#00184133]
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IOne has really to admire the way I turn each and every thread into discussion on porn
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 12:45 [#00184135]
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How can these people do this? They can't be paid that much money surely. Thankfully I've never been corrupted by scenes of bestiality, despite my country of origin.
I read a statistic once that 9% of people who live in rural areas have performed a sexual act with an animal. That's a fair few.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-19 12:46 [#00184136]
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Yeah, you're always corrupting me. I'm a good clean Catholic boy you know.
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