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get real. obama is not a centrist. |
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I guess he could seem vaguely leftist if all the info you're getting actually comes from your extreme right-wing sources. |
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he's a democrat. so there's only extreme sources? i guess left wing sources just are in a special category then huh |
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reading a paper for ten years, i've learned that this paper, is surprisingly objective with portraying the news. and i think most papers are. the only way in which a paper shows partisanship is the selection of stories. fox news doesn't mean anything, ignore it. cnn is just an information overload, ignore it. there's maybe good television news programs in the US, on PBS, i don't know. but i suggest you read a paper. |
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ok so.. where are you from? |
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Your sources are Jean-Marie Le Pen, leader of the main far-right nationalist party in France, Ian Paisley, Christian fundamentalist who launched a "Save Ulster from Sodomy" campaign, and Glenn Beck. A democrat is not a socialist. |
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yeah both sides are blatantly bias. i tend to only watch fox when my pops has it on. I.m just annoyed that people defend obama as if the right wing majority are trying to lynch him or something. checks and balances. the media should report what dirty business ANY prez does. |
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it doesnt mean i agree with everything they say or do. all that stuff in the original post was just to support the bizarre facts surrounding the EU. |
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That's what I'm trying to say: both sides are not blatantly bias. Just the extremes, like Fox news. If you only watch these crappy shows the least that can happen is that you get so paranoid as you are that you think objective information doesn't exist, but it exists to to a much greater agree than you now know. |
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The European Parliament exists mostly of reasonable politicians trying to get to solutions. Besides that majority there's some nutjobs that just complain. Simply put. Actually that's the same in the US. (Though the Republican party now seems to be held hostage by nutjobs). |
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so whenever fox refers to obama as some sort of newborn hitler, this has to do with checks and balances? you better check your own checks and balances, because they appear to be somewhat out of balance. this has nothing to do with checks and balances. this is radicalists calling moderates radical. (why did i still post when i'm certain this is all but trolling....fuck me) |
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I'm scared to check my balance, it is loooow! |
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fuck off. not everybody calls obama hitler and goes along with the tea party movemnt. too much black or white thinking going on. |
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the truth is probably in the middle: he's a little bit of Hitler. Mussolini maybe |
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o, i completely agree. if moderate republicans have to run for their money and go independent, things are fucked indeed. it would be checks and balances if there were some sort of cooperation between the reps and the dems. instead, the reps chose the strategy to completely avoid any cooperation whatsoever, in the hopes it would make the dems look bad and they can win the elections in november. |
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i hate to say it, but the fundamentals of the dutch healthcare system were actually introduced by the germans during the occupation. so hitler-care is not that farfetched as it is intended to be. (the new obama-care draws a couple aspects from the dutch version) |
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I think the bottom line is that Western Society has got to change, we will need 3 more Earths to have the resources to keep up with our planet alone at the rate Americans and Europeans live. I think the constitution has some good ideas, but they need to evolve with the times, i think keeping at least Panentheism, Deism, some sort of creator involved can be accepted in a Resource Based Economy. |
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we have to stop eating meat, or eat a lot less of it. without artificial manure earth wouldn't have been able to go from supporting 3 billion people to the 6 billion it has now. many more technical innovation have to be done to support the projected 9 billion people that will be here in the year 2050. actually the solution is less people.. we should all multiply less but this is a whole different discussion. we were talking about politics, you crazy krillin ;) |
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Harvard Law School's effect on Europe. Pivoting off the subject the jury hasn't forgotten they've progressed Defato Skull and bones. |
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i buy my meat at whole foods. saving the planet, one dead farm animal at a time. |
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Bush Jr used the middle east as a way to enlarge the enormous ego and influence people to buy houses Now the enormous ego syndrome involves cliff bars and being the chairman of the board. |
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Relax charlie you cant feed your self or even find water for that matter. |
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ohhh, you comfy dilettante, i will have the last laugh when the system collapses!! |
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end of the world nuts are just as bad as religious nuts. smug, paranoid people who want disaster just so they can be proven right to have spent their life preparing for the 3-6 months they'll survive after the collapse |
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Ah yes people and people and nuts and people. |
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Q: where do nuts come from A: THE STORE i'd rather spend decades living it up, go out fast, then spend decades preparing and last an extra three months. what'd you do, anyways? cower in your bunker and feel smug? |
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Firstly if i was JD I would mock you for the stunning grammatical faux-pas. |
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*than |
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Free dumb you Matryoshka doll |
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, you dumb doll. |
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We already have a Resource Based Economy - it's just that a lot of the time we use a proxy called money. |
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and then we use a proxy to money called a credit card.... the less visceral it becomes, the more it turns into a shared dream/delusion. |
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It's actually really fucking scary how totally dependent we are on oil... Electricity, fuel, plastic materials - not only do we need oil to transport, process and package our fuels - but a lot of fertilizer is made from oil, ultimately. As it stands, without oil, we are 100% fucked. I'm all game to see the human population go down, actually. Don't want anyone to die, but I reckon everyone would be a lot happier if there was more land per person. Land = freedom. (or we could start living in space. Actually yeah, that would be even more fun) You get annoying urban hippie kids saying that we should have a sustainable society - that's impossible - we'll always need to mine stuff (hope so, cos that's my job!). But it's certainly true that humanity can't carry on forever like it is doing right now. Hopefully we'll be able to keep innovating to improve our situation. |
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we could always power planes with nuclear reactors instead of oil. |
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I'd love to see it. I really wanna see thorium power get big too (assuming it's an actual possibility). Fuck yeah, technology! |
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Ha, an ex of mine was one of those 2012 nutters. What an absolute retard cunt she was. Ugly as shit too, what was I doing... |
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i was there for y2k. i think i've mentioned it here, before: i sat there, watching the ball drop at times square, and waited for the power to fail. it didn't. my cable modem didn't even disconnect. humanity's been around for hundreds of generations, it'd be presumptuous to think ours is the last, even if it is an exciting daydream to engage in. |
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The Persians do this as well. However the Persians allow the debt to be transferred without permission. For example if Bruce gives a ten thousand dollar loan to Ryan and Ryan gives the loan to Albert without asking Bruce has a right to get pissed according to western thought. A Persian might argue that it's Ryan decision and ultimately him who get's to decide who makes a difference. |
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afraid i'm not sure what your point is, though i do agree ryan should be held responsible for money he's borrowed, rather than being able to pass the buck to albert. it's ryan's job to hold albert responsible. |
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A stereotypical example but at this point Albert owes Bruce. A broker paradigm if you will where the individual doesn't decide Is it god or or the greater good. |
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ok, i think i get you now: bruce is a nation/creditor, ryan is the visa card/bank, and albert is the consumer/citizen. i offer my own take: albert works a crap job shoveling pig shit. the TV shows him how rich people live. via this highly contrived, five-minute view of a stranger's life, he mistakenly assumes they're much happier than he is. ryan calls him on the phone and says: you can live like these people now, pay for it later. ryan works a fantastic job suckering idiots. he encourages albert to get into debt by misrepresenting the happiness shiny new material possessions bring. if michael jordan wears these shoes, wearing them can make you michael jordan! since they cost three months' salary, you have to rack up some debt... but never mind that, MICHAEL JORDAN! the shoes arrive, and albert feels like hot shit, for all of three days. then depression sits in. he still has a job shoveling pig shit. ryan calls him again and tells him about the shoes kanye west wears.... eventually, the banks take albert's shit, and eat through it like worms. steve is ryan's boss. he spends plenty paying ryan enough to forget human decency, but he makes even more himself. just as ryan suckers albert, steve suckers bruce. his company moves millions every day, so people take his word. internally, though, it's barely held-together. they only pay back out when they have to, when threatened, and otherwise pocket the rest. when/if it all collapses, they have an up-to-date escape plan. bruce is an ant to the rest of the grasshopper bullshit going on. |
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Bruce works a construction job for several years and saves up a ten thousand dollars. Ryan also works on the construction site but had an accident and is now out of work Ryan has a brother Albert who is actually much better off but wants to move back to Afghanistan , Bruce in act of goodwill gives ten thousand dollars to Ryan to help him now that he is out of work Ryan decides that his brother Albert is more needy and gives the loan to Albert Albert now owes Bruce and must return to Iran at some point to pay off the loan Possible lies and ulterior motives omitted. |
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It's interesting, not least because of his earlier life and because he doesn't seem like a nutjob, or even a religious zealot. Rarlier in his life he would almost certainly have explained this away, had someone else had his experience, as a hallucination brought on by being close to death. No matter how much the other person claimed it was real, he would have thought it only felt real to them. Yet, because he felt it first hand, he does not for a second doubt the validity of it. |
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I'm pretty sure I was well baked when I wrote most of that, but I think the basic jist was that if there were a global elite they could certainly benefit from encouraging polarization and use it to their advantage. It is funny considering my analogy how many people signed petitions for their states to secede after the last election though. |
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