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Sorry about saying the Ableton sucked I shouldn't have said anything in the first place because Im sure that ableton Has tons and tons of potential but im not will to take the time to get used to it when I already have gotten used to fl studio. And Im a kinda Techno Genre going on you tell me what genre I am |
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ableton sucks rdj did drukqs on Fruity Loops |
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Really thats kick ass :D |
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check out Crossover for Mac. allows you to run Windows software straight from OSX - no need to dual boot etc. FLoops apparently works. |
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don't listen to 7Pd he's full of piss and wind |
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he's right |
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Wtf? 7pd? haha Crossover sounds interesting |
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Who uses Fl studio here? |
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I do, and the new version that will be out in a couple of months will be quite a step up, again. the playlist has been reworked for more flexibility. it's no longer just pattern based like trackers. more a mix of non linear editing and patterns. lots of music is released that's made in FL. Spor, Benga, 9th wonder, concord dawn, skream,... and the list goes on. not that I like all those artists but I really wouldn't underestimate it. even venetian snares used trackers at one time. or maybe still does. don't listen to what some morons say "go ableton, fl sucks" or "logic sounds better". if you see anyone saying that you can simply ignore them. they don't know anything. use what you like and use it to it's full potential. |
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russelcunt |
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lol |
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Thank you! |
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We used to be 'friends'. i wonder what happened.. i'd love to know! |
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Go on then!! |
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I even once made you an avatar! |
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you made that same avatar.. for someone else!! *runs away crying* |
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*runs away confused* |
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Every program with a graphical interface limits you. The purest digital music making is done by programming. FL Studio and Ableton both suck. |
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true, but negative. What do you mean the purest digital music? I usually mess with samples so a program like ableton is plenty. No need to try and overcomplicate something. Suprised nobody mentioned sweet programs like Audiomulch or Plogue Bidule |
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Actually i retract that last post, because Ableton is very limited, unless your using it to make mixes or something. Because to make tracks that go in the direction you want them to, hardware sequencers, or programming something yourself digitally IS the best way. I've not had the experience of these "purer" methods yet so i can't elaborate. But programs that allow you to create and route your own graphic envornments like Plogue Bidule or Max are useful when you're not a math head or electronic know it all. |
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Are you trying to piss me off? I heard your music blows. |
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how is Ableton limited? did you ever press Tab after booting the program? you can do almost anything with it. |
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lol no i only press a b c d after booting teh program |
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why do I even bother posting in this thread. I must be bored. |
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press moar bottonzz Jackie By the way What the fuck is Pure Digital Music? Isn't music made with only a computer as pure as it gets? Programming your music is something you could do inside this PDM world, just like using software like ableton and fstudio. So... what is it? You, Troutmask, of all interesting people, seems to know, and pioneering it. |
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Ok this is going more towards a flame war, so i'll just stop bothering with you all and stick to hauling at every remark Troutmask makes on this board. And russeldust, i love you dude, you know that. I'll not be a dick to you any more. Can you forgive me? |
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if you render music down to numbers and codes then its going to sound like a math soup. i prefer music |
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are talking about ocean waves again |
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*are we |
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I forgive you of course! I did tell you to fuck off afterall. *manhug* Robbie: Rogue waves are fascinating |
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i wanna post in this thread but its just so boring. dunno what to say |
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*manhug* water under the bridge |
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Nope. I was merely correcting your enormously false post. |
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Programming your own electronic musical interfaces is better, if you wish to have one. This is from the SuperCollider man pages... Dynamism: Most graphical synthesis environments use statically allocated unit generators. In SuperCollider, the user can create structures which spawn events dynamically and in a nested fashion. Patches can be built dynamically and parameterized not just by floating point numbers from a static score, but by other graphs of unit generators as well. Or you can construct patches algorithmically on the fly. This kind of fluidity is not possible in a language with statically allocated unit generators. Brevity: In SuperCollider, symmetries in a patch can be exploited by either multichannel expansion or programmatic patch building. For example, the following short program generates a patch of 49 unit generators. In a graphical program this might require a significant amount of time and space to wire up. Another advantage is that the size of the patch below can be easily expanded or contracted just by changing a few constants. ( { // 10 voices of a random sine percussion sound : s = Mix.ar(Array.fill(10, { Resonz.ar(Dust.ar(0.2, 50), 200 + 3000.0.rand, 0.003)}) ); // reverb predelay time : z = DelayN.ar(s, 0.048); // 7 length modulated comb delays in parallel : y = Mix.ar(Array.fill(7,{ CombL.ar(z, 0.1, LFNoise1.kr(0.1.rand, 0.04, 0.05), 15) })); // two parallel chains of 4 allpass delays (8 total) : 4.do({ y = AllpassN.ar(y, 0.050, [0.050.rand, 0.050.rand], 1) }); // add original sound to reverb and play it : s+(0.2*y) }.play ) Graphical synthesis environments are becoming a dime a dozen. What separates SuperCollider from such graphical environments may not be as obvious as one would believe; the appearance differences are radical, but in the end, inconsequential. The true advantage that SuperCollider holds above any graphical synthesis environment is that the composer need not conform to the standards presented by the user environment. |
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i dunno man, have fun :) |
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lol |
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regarding to Troutmask... Thats some technical shit right there I think I'l stick with the more simple stuff for now =] oh yeah isnieZot Great music man I still haven't been able to get drums beat very well are you using a bongo? it sounds "fuller" I like your stuff What VST's do you use? |
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Hahaha leave this board please, angsty untallented show off. You really think facts lay in that patch of random code that you got off SuperCollider webpage? I'm sorry man, but that really is uninteresting at all. What Cylob did and his music system, THAT is interesting. Not what you're doing. So just keep your 'facts' to yourself, virgin. |
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he is right though and you're wrong. you don't get what digital means until you start programming. Using a commercially built DAW = meh |
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I use Absynth 3, oddity, Asynth as my main vst's. all legal btw. and for compressors I use Blockfish allot. it's free and it's good. |
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if you're gonna start out with PD, Csound , max and all that shit you can simple forget about making music. you'll be spending more time patching something the goes: "vlblipep" elzk"fiozà 090390902939" DUN UDN DUNDUDUENDNDU" FART! instead making music. |
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I'm thinking of donating for asynth... is the CPU usage much improved with the SSE enabled version? |
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Absolutely it does. You simply could never build the intellect to understand it. |
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So when Aphex Twin writes his own code and software, he's a visionary, but when anyone else does it, they're pretentious electronic music snobs? Maybe you have that stigma because people who have visions that go beyond shitty DAW software's capabilities need to use programming languages to achieve them. That's why everyone does it. People like Merzbow use SuperCollider, sure. But so does Cylob and Peter Gabriel. Aphex Twin used SuperCollider for a while also (Richard D James Album). Arguing against an entire method of composition because you have such an ill-informed stigma regarding its users is just childish. |
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have you ever made a bad track ? no seriously i love every single track you ever posted on xlt. do you have any site where you host more of them ? |
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Why don't you listen for yourself. www.myspace.com/brokenheartsonice I've heard your music, and can say with confidence that it is a boring, stupid, typical, uninspiring acid allusion. Do you know how many times I've walked through downtown Manhattan on a typical Wednesday night hearing your exact timbres, drum programming, and synth sounds coming from the 24 year old DJs working their night jobs? Call me talentless if you want - I really don't care. But don't do it unless you're willing to be called a copycat - an imitator - because that's what you are. |
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// play a mixture of pink noise and an 800 Hz sine tone { SinOsc.ar(800, 0, 0.1) + PinkNoise.ar(0.01) }.play; // modulate the sine frequency and the noise amplitude with another sine // whose frequency depends on the horizontal cursor position { var x = SinOsc.ar(MouseX.kr(1, 100)); SinOsc.ar(300 * x + 800, 0, 0.1) + PinkNoise.ar(0.1 * x + 0.1) }.play; // list iteration: create a collection of indices multiplied by their values [1, 2, 5, 10, -3].collect { |item, i| item * i } // factorial function f = { |x| if(x == 0) { 1 } { f.(x-1) * x } } |
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Ugh i really don't care man, but you just call me a copy cat because you don't have any legs to stand on against my opinions, so you just call my music copy cat and boring because it's some genre that happened to already exist, you uninteresting scumbag. You don't even allow anyone here to have opinions, and when these opinions are about your ways of making music, you just attack whatever you can. It's really like a religion you are trying to push on to everyone, and i quite have a hate for people like that. They never respect anyone else's opinions, nor do they know the difference. Showing off your music like it's God's creation and hiding behind all the good comments that people give you or maybe magazine's or radioshows or something. You have no idea that there's a place for any type of music for any type of person, copy cat style or not. I don't need intellect to know what makes good music, i make it with whatever the hell i can. I compose, with hardware and software with my own plugins. Jeez just look at you, while i was at work earning golden cash, you couldn't help yourself but bouncing your sweaty little fingers all over your little laptop. You're disgusting, you dumb fucking asswank. You have no respect for anyone but yourself, and you won't ever. I compose whatever i enjoy to compose, you just program shit to show off your skills whenever you want, and that's that, i allow you. It are simply my opinions against your ways of making music, that works you up like a horny pussy. And really, your music doesn't sound fresh to me, in my opinion. I'll just mark that, in case your intellect doesn't have room for that to understand. Now everyone, do this guy a favor, and call me a copy cat. Now! Give this virgin something to wank about tonight, like he won some kind of fight or something. Fucking non social childish pillock. |
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"Do you know how many times I've walked through downtown Manhattan on a typical Wednesday night hearing your exact timbres, drum programming, and synth sounds coming from the 24 year old DJs working their night jobs?" And what kind of sexless, pleasureless tomb would I have to visit to hear your exact music, programming and synth sounds being played? |
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you are very very far to be rich |
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