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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-09-03 14:25 [#01323579]
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If the terrorists/revolutionaries really wanted to get attention why didnt they blow up a toilet paper factory? I hear they're rare in Russia and I don't know about you, but I really enjoy whiping my ass. Now if somebody controlled all the means for me to whipe my ass, I would listen up to whatever it was they were angry about and try to make it better.
Blowing up school kids is just plain mean.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 14:28 [#01323583]
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i didnt said that killing childresn would be good, did i ? no.
i said that russians are guilty, not terrorists. its not middle east- its not religion war. its all about not letting these small countries to be independent.
not that im with the terrorists, but i can see that for these people is the only way to fight now.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-09-03 14:30 [#01323585]
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The FBI still insists they never fired a shot at Waco despite numerous eye-witness testimony and video evidence. The site was alllowed to burn to the ground and then was bulldosed after the charred bodies were collected. The bodies were littered with bullet holes, but since they were so badly charrred the ballistics tests werent possible and it was decided by the government investigators that they all committed suicide.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-09-03 14:30 [#01323586]
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umm, a Norwegian team actually headed up the recovery and there is a lot of documented video footage of the wreckage. The cause of the sinking was a torpedo which exploded in the tube and ripped a hole in the side of the sub. The front section of the Kursk was sawn off prior to lifting at the request of the Russian government, which the Norwegians thought was strange, but nothing more than a face saving exercise for coverage by it's own media.
It was a nuclear sub, with radioactive material still submerged...which is the purpose of the dome.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 14:34 [#01323589]
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my dear lee. what you say is the version from TV and maybe from some press services. we know that torpedo exploded - but why it exploded ? it was "just uncontrolled explosion" ? the part that was left under water could give more detailed infos, but you wont know this till you die- coz goverment will not let anyone to see this. this is the natural way of hiding information, which is very very often in this country.
with all respect to your knowledge, lee - it seems you need to learn more about russian goverment.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-09-03 14:37 [#01323590]
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Or you need to spend less time with wild conspiracy theories. They fucked up back with teh torpedo explosion on the Kursk, but I genuinely can see no other reason for a cover up than the government being ashamed to admit to its own people that the flagship of their naval fleet had a fucked design.
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Zhuzha
on 2004-09-03 14:38 [#01323591]
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hyakusen, you are too much xenophopic, so your posts look really funny :) "the russians are so terrible !!!! they are MONSTERS !!! (BIG EYES!!!!) UAUAUAUAUUAAAQ !
Ha-ha-ha ! I know russians pretty well because I live near them and I think they as nice as all other nations. Of course,
there are some xenophopic fools between russian like you but
i do not pay much attention to them. I just do not understand why are you at this forum. i usually discuss music with people. you know aphex, autechre and bjork are very popular in evil russia, heh
actually i prefer to speak about music, do you like elisabeth esselink ?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 14:43 [#01323592]
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now that youve made fool of youself with your utter stupid post that contained phrases like " they have
saved the europe from fascism, napoleon and mongols." or "I think the best thing for Chechnya would be some EU or NATO
protectorate but not full independence.' you want me to chat about music ? right, ok for me.
i dont like solex. oh, and im not stupid, unless you think that everyone that think different than you are stupid.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-09-03 14:47 [#01323593]
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anyone who would kill children like that deserves the most slow agonizing death possible!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-09-03 14:51 [#01323598]
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Even if the killers are children?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-09-03 14:52 [#01323599]
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Cretin.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-09-03 14:53 [#01323600]
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Cretin.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 14:53 [#01323601]
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Kretyn.
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Zhuzha
on 2004-09-03 14:53 [#01323602]
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and, dear hyakusen, i never said i would like to see all chechens under russian control, i have just said the Chechnya under russian or EU control is better than Chechnya under
radical islamic control. I hope you agree with that ?
and about WWII please try to read about it.. preferably in german.. so it's a chance you'll start to think.... you, brainwashed man...
And try to think - Stalin did a lot of bad things to Poland, fascists did even much more bad things and russian soldiers
did a lot of good things, liberating Poland from fascism, do
you remember all the nazi concentration camps ? But for some strange reason you hate CURRENT russian nation for Stalin's bad things. Maybe you should consult at the psichiatrist ?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-09-03 14:54 [#01323603]
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Chretien.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 14:58 [#01323605]
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you are stupid, what can i say - american soldiers were the ones that entered camps, youve made another massacre- Katyn. have you heard about it ? or it is forbidden to speak about it where you live ?
germans attacked us by the 1st of september. russians attacked us from another sit by 17th of september.
it was attack, with massacres, field battles, killing civils, and destroying polish national symbols ( flags, everything )
where the fuck you see liberation here ?????
after all these years, you cant still admit you attacked poland , not liberated. shame , shame on you shame on you.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-09-03 14:58 [#01323606]
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Creatine.
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Zhuzha
on 2004-09-03 15:11 [#01323609]
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ok I already see (and you too as well) we will not change our opinions, but anyway i would like to examine your brain little more. please explain why do you think " they have
saved the europe from fascism, napoleon and mongols." phrase is stupid ? I don't think it is stupid. russian have lost a lot of people doing that, so why do you not respect them for it ? if you think it's not true (saving europe) please write your opinion
and the other phrase: "think the best thing for Chechnya would be some EU or NATO protectorate but not full independence" i think i have already explained WHY. I have told - "this time" I did not say "at all".
So please do not stick on this phrase but try to answer to my whole opinion
Thank you for the solex
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troubleworks
from Moscow (Russia) on 2004-09-03 15:12 [#01323610]
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Stop making an entertainment factor out of yourself, hyakusen.
> for these people is the only way to fight now.
So you justify terrorism. Awesome :D
> it was attack, with massacres, field battles, killing civils, and destroying polish national symbols ( flags, everything )
I bet some potatoes and hats got hurt, too. This is indeed terrible.
But what you're describing there is simply war. It happens always and everywhere when military forces enter a civilian region. And now, please, would you let me pretend that I'm you: HAVE YOU NOT HEARD YOUR GOVERNMENT KILLED 1.000.000.000.000.000 OF ITS OWN PEOPLE DURING WWII? YOU HAVE A LOT TO LEARN THEN!
As we see, the period of German & Russian occupation taught you Polaks little — if a nazi like you keeps walking the land 50 years after it has happened.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-03 15:13 [#01323611]
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god this hostage situation fucking sucked.
why can't people just not hurt each other?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-09-03 15:13 [#01323612]
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hyakusen is a dumbass!
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troubleworks
from Moscow (Russia) on 2004-09-03 15:17 [#01323613]
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Because they're all fucking RUSSIAN, DID YOU GET IT NOT YET?
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hobbes
from age on 2004-09-03 15:18 [#01323614]
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blimey someone is touchy.
satan sucks, i agree.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-09-03 15:20 [#01323615]
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...a MILDLY AMUSING dumbass mind you.
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Zhuzha
on 2004-09-03 15:25 [#01323616]
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"where the fuck you see liberation here ?????" i see the liberation in 1944. the nazi regime's plans were to include the Poland's territory in "Great Germany". They did not think about the presenting of poles. After the soviet liberation, the Stalin's regime allowed
pole communists to be the rulers of their country under the USSR influence. So, what is worse ? And why do you hate CURRENT russians ? :)
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 15:25 [#01323618]
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this is rad fuckin RADDD. troubleworks - are you fckin blind ? t happens always and everywhere when military forces enter a civilian region. what you described as WAR, the girl called Zhuzha called as LIBERATION !!! thats why i tried to explain the difference - during liberation people and potatoes are not hurt.
and i do not justify- i think that after years and years of killing poor chechens for oil they have nothing to do but kill innocent russians as well. every stick has wtwo ends, remember.
Zhuzha - ask someone to examine your ass, ok ? anyway, none russian saved europe from nazis, it were allies who saved europe, and russians were not allies at all. before war stalin and fuhrer signed a pact , where thay splited poland in two halfs- one for germany, one for rusia. russian tanks and soldiers were standing at the one part of Wisla ( the river ) while , at the other part Germans were destroying Warsaw ( fuhrer wanted the city to be wiped out ). i dont need to explain that russians and germans were at war at this time, so yeah, standing and watching =- liberation. cool. russians killed polish officers in Katyn- over 300 of them. mass graves are well known. russian army left poland yet in 92. not too long ago, cool liberation. after war weve had 50 years of russian communism, control, cool liberation.
im tired of giving you historical facts, get yourself a book, will you ? stupid twat.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 15:27 [#01323619]
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you suck, you suck, oh my god. first lets take the country and kill people, then, let them live under our influence. THATS JUST FUCKIN GREAT !
After the soviet liberation, you should say, AFTER SOVIET ATTACK. OK ? CLEAR ?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 15:28 [#01323620]
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cant stand it. how the fuck you can liberate what you attacked a while before. you were liberating us from yourself ? stupid stupid stupid.
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troubleworks
from Moscow (Russia) on 2004-09-03 15:30 [#01323621]
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Go to Germany. Buy a history book. Stop making things up.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 15:32 [#01323624]
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i didnt maked anything. it seems that were arguing coz we know two versions of europe history- you have the one printed by those who attacked, i have the one printed by defenders. simple.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 15:34 [#01323625]
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if you think that im making things up - how can we discuss ? we simply cant, theres no discuss when there are different versions of history.
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troubleworks
from Moscow (Russia) on 2004-09-03 15:35 [#01323626]
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No.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-09-03 15:36 [#01323628]
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hyakusen, you are an idiot
and a curse for this board
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 15:39 [#01323630]
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thank you. you too, btw.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-03 15:39 [#01323631]
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The bloke is from Poland, he may be prone to being unguarded with some of his statements, but I trust him to know his own country's history rather than a German version of it.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 15:42 [#01323635]
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and you are the curse of your fathers ass.
dog_b - you can be sure of that, i wouldnt dance on ban border without knowledge what im argiung about
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blowfield
on 2004-09-03 15:46 [#01323638]
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i can understand hyakusen's attitude somehow, it is just a pity that he is generalizing things and says a whole nation is stupid and murderers what is total bullshit. I can also understand troubleworks who is feeling pissed off by hyakusen's attitude and he tries to defend maybe not the country he lives, or the government but the people he knows who are not as hyakusen describe (look down) russia... speaking of the history books: i think both are right and the truth is somewhere between them...
one question to hyakusen: you hate russians, dont you? why? and if so, why all? i think this is unfortunately a black-white opinion of you. it is the same to say all americans are for bush and for the iraq war...
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 15:50 [#01323640]
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i hate them for what they did to my country. by their goverment we have lost 50 years - 50 years of tries to make robots from us. many people died at the time.
now,present people from there are tryin to convince me that i am blind, and they wanted to be good for me.
is that thing not to be pissed about ?
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-09-03 15:53 [#01323642]
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Hyakusen- I will personally tutor you in English so I can understand what the fuck you are talking about. Or are you just wasted?
I'm inclined to believe you simply because you are so passionate, but if you cannot learn better syntax then I will be forced to go back to watching reruns of Joni loves Chachi.
Russia is full of ex KGB that went ronin after they looted all the IMF money. Why is it so impossible to believe that they used the opportunity of "collecting the bodies of the dead" in order to launch their attack and kill as many hostages as they felt necessary to make the rebels look bad?
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troubleworks
from Moscow (Russia) on 2004-09-03 15:55 [#01323644]
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BLACK PEOPLE EAT PEOPLE!
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-09-03 16:00 [#01323647]
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Its ok as long as they feed on other black people.
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blowfield
on 2004-09-03 16:00 [#01323648]
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really?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 16:00 [#01323649]
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thats the point - they want to rebels look bad, coz they want to attack chechenya once more, and take their oil.
i tried to tell this before.
plus, ive learned new historical facts today. i never knew we were fighting with those who wanted to liberate us. and you - why youre not grateful to those who liberated europe now ? huh ?
plus, if i sound like wasted, maybe you shouldnt read my posts.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2004-09-03 16:02 [#01323655]
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"if i sound like wasted, maybe you shouldnt read my posts."
sound advice (said the monotonous characterless internet entity)
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troubleworks
from Moscow (Russia) on 2004-09-03 16:07 [#01323658]
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No, dude, you're a nazi with no excuses. Leave the room.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 16:10 [#01323662]
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it was you who entered this room last. i was here already, so please, left this mb as those previous 5000.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-03 16:22 [#01323680]
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What's the fucking point of this thread... so you can patronise others' opinion and rant on assuming your racist opinions are justified??
Byebye
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-03 16:24 [#01323681]
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byebye
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blowfield
on 2004-09-03 16:26 [#01323684]
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hyakusen i think it is not fair to prejustice a whole nation and each one of them (i know it was not fair what made russian government the last 50 years to your country, for that i am feeling sorry although i am greek and not russian)
if so then all russians are corrupt and murderers. all germans are nazis. all people from poland are stealing... etc. etc.
i think you should say sorry to troubleworks, because you dont know him, you dont know his political direction (you cannot know his personality by a few posts here), and how much involved he was to what happened to the country (in my opinion, not involved at all, but i dont know more than you)
dont misunderstand me, i totally understand your attitude, i can even understand your hate, but please towards the right people and not for innocent.
and @ troubleworks: i can understand you too, what you are defending, and maybe also why you do that, but you cannot say hyakusen to shut up. he has an opinion, it is his one, and if you want him to understand your point of view, do it please in other way than calling the mods to ban him. this shows me, unfortunately, that you act like your the image your country have, and that's far away from democracy (hope your country will make progress though in this matter)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-03 16:26 [#01323685]
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if you hate the decisions a government makes, that can be very valid, but to then extend that hate to the people that live under that government is pretty strange.
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