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is that where they shot toy soldiers? |
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i've spent most of my life in israel, and i know a little about what it's like to live in a place where such things happen, and i've also lived in canada to see how the 'safe' world reacts to these things. such insidious and testosterone-drunk comments that shroud the tragedy in fable of stereotypes are typical of sheltered, pubescent males able to extend their sympathy only to a nationalistic ideal (i.e. 'we the people') but never to humanity as a whole. what this small town is now facing is an absolute, horrific tragedy -- they will wake up for years with a crippling sense of loss and aimlessness -- and it breaks my heart. a virtually identical incident (terrorists take over a school and start executing hostages) happened in israel in the 70s, and many of the survivors are unable to cope as adults -- many are emotionally and physically crippled for life. as for this whole russia thing -- i'll direct this to hyakusen especially: what the fuck has your country ever done for civilization? i don't mean the one or two poets and mathematicians that ran away to america as soon as they had enough zloty for a ticket. three out of four of my grandparents are polish jews, two are auschwitz survivors, and boy do i have some great, great stories about poles, not to mention a couple of relatives missing here and there. fuck your babaric wasteland of country -- it ain't got shit on russia. |
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what the fuck has your country ever done for civilization? oh my oh my oh my so i need to save world to present opinions like mine ? i cant have my opinion coz MY COUNTRY NEVER DID ANYTHING SPECIAL ? congratulations for great way of thinking. in your way, we should all be silent, besides americans, and maybe few other nations that are big enough to be wlll known for some reasons. |
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dudes... we're all the same people no matter what dirt we were born on. |
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we should all be silent, no -- just you. in an ideal world, anyways. |
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besides - youre not living here in east uerope, you know shit about the situation, about whole communism that lasted here for 50 years, what can you tell about it ? notthing, besides few facts from books, i lived here yet in this part of time when we were getting oranges for christmas-CAN YOU IMAGINE ? all because of russians and their communistic way of organizing world.you havent experienced this shit, so stop talking that ive done nothign to world, i dont nee dto do anything, what i experienced is giving me right for my opinions, even idf they are cruel or just stupid for you. so excuse me, i have fuckin right to have my own fucked up opinion about russia. |
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do i shout about you and your bussines in canada and between canada and US ? no, im silent about it. cimple - coz i dont live there, im not judging these countries for anything. you, who lives fuckinh hundreds km's from here, are judging me for my opinion about country that destroy my nation ? who the fuck are you ? GOD ? i dont want to insult you, but please, do not judge ppl that you dont know, and situations that you can see only in TV ok ? |
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wow, i have never seen a bitch slap in the form of a post before. gotta give props for that one. |
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and you've never had to deal with massive amounts of murdered civilians in your community. you don't hear me going, "ooh, poor poles, they suffered under communism, they're all retarded anyways" -- because i don't, in fact, know much about what it must've been like -- maybe you should extend the curtesy and shut the fuck up about this tragedy. |
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i don't even really hate poles, just hatemongering dipshits with arrested emotional development like yourself, whatever part of the world they come from. |
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> do not judge ppl that you dont know Have you tried saying this to yourself? I suppose you either shut up or get banned. I don't want to watch another tragedy turn into a hate fest. The loss of the children's lifes is bad enough, yet there may be a messageboard nazi that would disagree. |
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! __________________________________________ This thread should be about the children that are dead/injured/hostages. Instead it is mindless bickering about countries. You bigots, we are all human. Without each others assistance throughout the centuries we wouldnt be where we are. You should all feel ashamed. Not one is better. Not fucking one. Remember that. __________________________________________ excuse my interruption, please allow the arrogant pricks to debate on whos country is better. and we wonder why the world is the way it is. |
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why should i shut the fuck up ? still not getting it ? for me russians were asking for these terrorism acts - i wont also see you going "oh, poor people in chechenia, and all those small republics down of russia - that must be hell for them" all you can see is children tragedy, but you have forgotten how many tragedies were hidden in past by russians, how strong they have worked for the present situation. thats the reason of my shouts now. and, like yoou ve said - its not me who should shut the fuck up now. after all, it is you who knows fuck abut what is going on here. no offence but after comparing your's and mine experience - we dont have a single thing to discuss. so stop beeing so rude. |
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whatever, you're probably right. |
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fuck you if i cant say what i think, or i should be banned for my opinions. ive had this for waaaay to long - over 50 years of beeing silent "coz big red brother is watchin ya". no one will dictate me what should i think or shouldnt. |
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i didn't think samurai lost there kewl so easilly |
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i don't think you are human |
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he's not |
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Yeah dude, “the russians were asking for it”, I bet those little children who got their heads smashed in by bullets WERE SURELY ASKING FOR IT, ah? Do you understand what you are saying? Who was asking for it? Who? Is my mother to blame? Is it me? Is it my dog? |
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of course -- didn't your dog vote for stalin, just like all the other russians? |
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think - its pelple who let the goverment make decisions were made - if all teh ppl choose more wisely, you wouldnt have lenins, stalins, and all this shit. is this really so hard to understand ? its alla bout people - with people decisions goverment are created, therefore people that choosed shitty goverment are responsible for shit the goverment is making. and we all know that from past russian politics were not very good, and youve had your chance in last elections to choose ms. Hakamada- yet still putin gets his voices in all country. that is the reason. |
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most people are embarrassed by their own ignorance, no chance of that happening here |
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godammit. you guys should calm down. it's clear that america is the best anyways, i don't know what you're arguing about. |
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This is A Long Post: Russia wants control over Chechnya because it is rich in oil. This is true. Chechen rebels resent this, and hence utilize any means that are at their disposal (hostage-taking of children, which i imagine they thought would be foolproof for PR reasons, i mean GOOD LORD, who's going to use the "Special Forces" when kiddie-lives are at stake)?! This is completely irrelevant to the issue of nationality. Some people in government are greedy. Power over oil = power. Full Stop. Humans are greedy. And ALL humans are greedy for power, we just don't admit it. Bollocks to those saying "Russians are A Big Load Of Lame"... it is literally impossible to logically generalize an entire nation in this way. Rulers of nations often swing between personal gain and nationality gain (leading to personal gain); this does not represent the whole of a nation. There is ALWAYS dissent, and although it doesn't get recognized in the mainstream media (particularly in countries where the media is largely corrupt), it's friggin' stupid to talk about all Russians being "brainwashed" or whatever. I'm not going to even talk about various nations' foreign policy here, mainly because i don't know enough about it... but the "nationality card" is completely irrelevant regarding the politics of a country... most governments do NOT represent the opinion of the populace, and hence their actions cannot be interpreted as the "(x) Nation Opinion". And that's all i have to say for now. Uh, yeh. |
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why has nobody bitched hyakusen out? hyakusen is a racist. Did anyone read his posts? They made me mad, actually mad! I'm shocked and appalled at his statements toward Russians: "but russian ppl are to stupid to understand this shit. i cant stand stupidity of russians. they are sooo stupid. less russians = less stupidity. " brilliant job hyakusen, brilliant |
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I bet one can actually see the blood of 50 million victims on its paws. BTW, I heard Poland was a form of Russia. Why is this guy so hateful about me then? |
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Those who vote for CPRF and Putin are trully brainwashed. But my family has always voted and will vote Hakamada's party, that's for sure. |
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i mean GOOD LORD, who's going to use the "Special Forces" when kiddie-lives are at stake)?! i don't think they were going to -- apparently some bomb accidentally went off and of course the terrorists thought people were coming in so they started shooting -- the russian forces only entered then. at least this is what i get from the news reports. |
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edit: woops, didn't see the second page (good job happy cycling, for bitch slapping his dumb ass) |
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happy cycling and scup_bucket - believing in official reports. shame on you. and scup - ive made you mad ? sorry, didnt intend, its just i know lot about things here, you dont. |
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that building is swarmed by international press from every possible angle. the russians would be hard pressed to invent something that didn't really happen, not to mention that BBC reporters have spoken with survivors that confirm this. |
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Do you have alternative information sources, pal? |
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and what was said about Kursk sub-marine ? what was said about Dubrovnik Theater ? answer these . |
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Oh no- the Russian authorities wouldnt do anything crazy like set off a bomb or gas 126 hostages to death. tard! |
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"and scup - ive made you mad ? sorry, didnt intend, its just i know lot about things here, you dont." Ya, you're just full of usefull information like: "less russians = less stupidity" wow thanks for all that information, you sure know a lot about things. |
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Apparently so; both-sides paranoia in such a volatile situation was always going to result in the death of innocents, it's the Way Of Humans. Nobody wants to lose their power over a situation, and so people are killed. I am vaguely sure that the reason the chechen rebels took over a school was to prevent an immediate storming by special forces though. I imagine that they thought the PR storm surrounding the inevitable retaliation and death would outweigh the moral outrage over their hostage-taking. |
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Deep9mm- that was so insightful I'm inclined to think you are one of them. |
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that clears up some things i think. |
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Russian and Polish women are some of the world's most beautiful women. I'm thinking about ordering one out of the back of RollingStone. |
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i'm sorry for my poor english... Oh, the whole thread is so stupid. Especially "hyakusen". He is just the ill xenophobic man. There are a lot of ill people like hyakusen in the world... that's true... and that's really sad. I live in a former USSR republic, btw... more close to russia... For those who think "The Russians have never been really good at anything" I have to remind only one word - "Gagarin" :). I think russians are just at the beginning of building their own democracy. They have had this terrible communism experience... but i don't think it's the reason to hate them ! At least they have saved the europe from fascism, napoleon and mongols. And for chechen war.. try to think about the following: Why only the "chechens" attack russians and other caucasus regions ? Why all other nations who live in Russia do not have anything against Moscow ? The "chechens" (actually the islamic terrorists) attacked the Osettin school, not russian!!! And some years ago they attacked the Dagestan. And why dagestan and osettin people supported the russians and even called them "brothers" instead of supporting chechen "rebels" ? They are also caucasus people, aren't they ? So maybe the problem is much more deep than some people would like to think. I have to say, you just too brainwashed :)) I think the best thing for Chechnya would be some EU or NATO protectorate but not full independence. If you think russians are barbarians why do you think the chechens are civilized european nation ? They have already had independence for three years and as all of you know it was worse than Afghanistan with talibs. You know, slaves, no social garanties, radical islam etc. I believe the independant Chechnya at this time would be the sweet home for Osama bin Laden. So please be patient and give the Russia another 100 years for development of democrasy and some more years for Chechnya. |
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This is very sad |
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this is enough - i didnt need to read all of these bollocks - you are braiwashed putin-lover right ? you would like to see all chechens under russian control, i bet you would, russian and democracy ? haha that makes me laugh so hard. and you saved the world from fascism ? NIIICE. preventing from fascism by ATTACKIN others, right ? who invaded poland in september the 17th ? mongols ? russia. who masacred over 3000 polish officers in Katyn in next months ? mongols ? no need to talk to you, where are you from anyway ? moon ? |
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btw chechenya was allways indepenmdent, its you who wants to have their oil, thats the case. your words : I think the best thing for Chechnya would be some EU or NATO protectorate but not full independence. what can i say when i read this ? |
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who are you to decide who should be independent and who shouldnt ? thats the thing im talking about - you want power, thats it. |
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Its just sad, both ways its sad |
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I'm actually from Mars. Stop your bickering Earthmen. A tragedy has occurred. |
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hyakusen you are obviously typing your opinion, however the shit you typed about the Kursk is rubbish...the cause of the sinking is well known. Russia is still a heavily oppressed nation...you can't blame the people. |
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its not well known - coz they covered the part of the wrath with concrete dome, so you cant really say what cause explosion. specialist can say why the sub sinked, but not why it exploded. thats the thing- its hidden. |
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