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offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-05-29 21:06 [#01214555]
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oh, yeah it is a boolean value

but you can't make this tweak using the method of editing
the com.apple.dock.plist file (although as said, you can
make the dock show hidden applications that way *as far as i
know*)


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-29 21:07 [#01214557]
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haha :D

Yeah I prefer being specific when it comes to violence.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-29 21:10 [#01214559]
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yeha, which is why I said altering the boolean value in
the
pList xml file of the application isn't it


:D

Anyway I think that is the last thing I will write in this
topic.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-05-29 21:15 [#01214563]
Points: 1818 Status: Addict



Jugular is a word every plebeian can use. Even Judas Priest
sort of used it as an album title.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-29 21:17 [#01214564]
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Plaural form though...It is a common misconception by most
people that they have only one jugular vein which isn't
true.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-29 21:18 [#01214569]
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It is. But it's like a 'buzz-word' and I hate it.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-05-29 21:20 [#01214572]
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really?

people have more than one jugular vein?

i didn't know that


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-05-29 21:22 [#01214573]
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How do they use it? "I'm gonna slice your jugular"?


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-29 21:25 [#01214576]
Points: 14294 Status: Lurker



There, another reason why I don't like it. People don't
even know that their necks have veins on each side of their
neck.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-29 21:26 [#01214578]
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Jugular veins are literally just the veins in your neck that
carry the blood to and from your head, you have inner veins
which carry blood from the brain the muscles of the face and
neck, the external ones which are the best known carry blood
from the the skull and deep parts of the face.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-05-29 21:28 [#01214581]
Points: 6045 Status: Lurker



WHAT IS A JUGALO?

oh man.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-05-29 22:38 [#01214593]
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xp's pretty good


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-05-29 23:45 [#01214608]
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xp is only good if you suck at setting up hardware and
networking, it's unstable, it's very open to viruses, and
quite frankly win2k shits all over it, in tersm of both
stability, and security.

oscilik, i sucks taht you've asked a simple question and
been bombarded with shit by people who don't really know
what they're on about, and although you've been wrong in the
past (remember the "there's no way this game could be 96k"
argument ;) you usually know what the fuck you're on about.


 

offline happy cycling from berlin on 2004-05-30 00:16 [#01214623]
Points: 2786 Status: Regular | Followup to horsefactory: #01214492



hahaha, where did you find this? fyi, the computers are
speaking in hebrew, and they're saying:

"what do you study in the faculty?"
"it's the faculty!"


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-30 00:17 [#01214627]
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IT IS A JEWIS


 

offline happy cycling from berlin on 2004-05-30 00:20 [#01214633]
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?


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-30 00:21 [#01214634]
Points: 14294 Status: Lurker



ON THE FACE IS MICKY MOUSE WEARING A SKULL CAP


 

offline happy cycling from berlin on 2004-05-30 00:26 [#01214637]
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ok


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-30 00:35 [#01214638]
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That's cool you can read hebrew anyways. Is that a spoken
language still?


 

offline happy cycling from berlin on 2004-05-30 00:56 [#01214643]
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yes, of course, it is the official language of israel


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-05-30 04:46 [#01214733]
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thanks man

heheh, yeah the 96kb 3d shooter argument was totally my
fault

i admit it

I WAS WRONG ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU CAN FIT A 3D FIRST
PERSON SHOOTER GAME IN A FILE THAT IS 96KB

thank you for saying that i usually know my shit :) i
appreciate that

i do get very defensive about stuff like this, i think it's
mainly because in school there were two people in the whole
school who actually knew anything about computers (me and my
mate Ilyas). the teachers knew fuck all about them, but they
always thought that they knew more than us just because of
the fact that we were 14 and they were older than us.

The fuckers always asked us for help though.



 

offline panda from Lanndaannnn you slag (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-30 06:00 [#01214777]
Points: 28 Status: Lurker



i dont think explorer is the shell of windows.. i just
ctrl-alt-del and killed explorer and i still had windows
open, it just kills the task bar and desktop

what exactly are you trying to do anyway? you have virtual
PC on OS X and it sucks so you want to try and find a
hack/replacement of the XP windowing system to make it
faster?

i expect its more likely that having to emulate an intel is
whats causing it to be so slow so it might not make a great
deal of difference.

also i dont know how virtual PC works but if microsoft might
have implemented some of the kernel stuff like windowing
natively in OSX so it could be counterproductive..


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-05-30 06:14 [#01214789]
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actually, explorer IS the shell, because if you edit
system.ini you shall find a line that reads:

SHELL=EXPLORER.EXE

Windows Explorer is the shell for all Windows products after
Windows 95.

Virtual PC emulates a 500MHz Pentium II chip, with however
much RAM you desire to allocate to it from your actual
system RAM. I have 1GB, and choose to allocate 256MB.

Obviously it's not gonna be as fast as the latest systems
out there, but the point is I can take multiple Operating
Systems out on the road with me anywhere I take my
PowerBook.

As said before, I just wanna squeeze as much out of the
system as possible. I never said it sucks, I just said I'd
like to run stuff a bit faster, and I'd also like more
customizability.

As for running programs under OS X without emulating a whole
computer, the WINE project is being ported to Mac OS X under
the name DARWINE and from what I can see, it works in the
same way.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-05-30 06:15 [#01214791]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to oscillik: #01214789



"and from what I can see, it works in the
same way"


my wording isn't clear here :(

i meant that DARWINE seems to work in the same way that WINE
does on other *NIX systems


 

offline panda from Lanndaannnn you slag (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-30 06:37 [#01214808]
Points: 28 Status: Lurker



with darwine you have to recompile it to ppc code first
though i think :(

depends what you mean by shell i guess maybe microsoft calls
it that, but explorer basically handles file browsing and
the start menu things

the actualy window handling code (vaguely corresponding to
X) which i thought was what you are talking about lives in
USER32.dll


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-05-30 06:54 [#01214821]
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do you?

i thought the whole point of DARWINE was so that you didn't
have to compile it, because it's natively coded for Mac OS
X?

I know that explorer.exe doesn't actually act as a window
manager (in the sense that KDE, or GNOME act like window
managers in *NIX systems), but yes you're right - there is
something else that actually handles the rendering of the
windows and stuff. I'm not sure of exactly which file or
program is responsible, but I'd have a fairly confident
guess that USER32.dll handles it.

I've heard of people "resource hacking" the appropriate
files, to give a different style to the windows and the
widgets and stuff.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-30 07:45 [#01214862]
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In summary, noone really knows what they're talking about.
Out of interest, what do geeks do on their computers when
they're not tweaking them for "optimum" performance? Is it
just playing games?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-30 07:47 [#01214865]
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I don't know anything about computers except using Internet
Explorer, listening to music, and my music software. That's
all I use the PC for. That's all I want to use the PC for,
and that's all I want to know.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-05-30 07:49 [#01214870]
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erm, probably wanking off to shitty pr0n?


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-05-30 07:50 [#01214872]
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and you know how to show hidden applications in the Dock in
Mac OS X, even though you don't own a Mac (at least, you've
never mentioned owning one)

that's impressive


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-30 07:52 [#01214874]
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I don't like computers, so I don't really talk about them.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-05-30 07:56 [#01214882]
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ok then, well who's your favorite artist/band (if you can
narrow it down to one)?

just to get away from the computer shit


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-30 07:59 [#01214886]
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I can't narrow it down to one. I listen to too many styles
of music. :P

This thread has served it's purpose in making me look like a
cunt, I think we can just leave it as that :)


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-05-30 08:03 [#01214890]
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i think i'll continue to show myself as a ball of meat in
gravy in my future posts

i don't think i can do anything about that though

i'm happy to let this thread die a very slow and painful
death


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-30 08:11 [#01214900]
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I might decide to live in this thread.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-05-30 08:13 [#01214903]
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well, you'll have to put up with my condescending and self
righteous techno-babble which i apparently seemed to have
gleaned from my non-existent academic computing education
course


 


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